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post Jul 18 2017, 23:21
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 18 2017, 14:17) *

Pretty much, anything less than that will be suboptimal.
Obviously as long as you're reasonably close to 1.0 everything works, but go a lot lower and it starts to be visibly worse.
0.66 prof factor is already >10% slower than 1.0 (and costs more because 4+1 means more phazons).

This is reversed in SG arenas where the lower prof factor you have the faster you go.


But Pen5 is still good, right >.>

im looking to do holy grindfests and IW.

Frogive me for asking a foolish question, but what exactly does elemental proficiency do when they say 'mitigation'?
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post Jul 18 2017, 23:57
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ Jul 18 2017, 23:21) *

But Pen5 is still good, right >.>

Pen5 is mandatory if you want to mage seriously.

QUOTE(SidZBear @ Jul 18 2017, 23:21) *
im looking to do holy grindfests and IW.

I'm not sure holy is a good choice for fests (unless you have ~500M and a high enough level) in 0.85 given how nintendo and lower are nerfed into oblivion.

QUOTE(SidZBear @ Jul 18 2017, 23:21) *
Frogive me for asking a foolish question, but what exactly does elemental proficiency do when they say 'mitigation'?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Magic_Proficiencies
All the effect of magic proficiencies are listed there.
The one we were talking about is
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Mitigation reduction = (prof_factor ^ 1.5) * 50
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post Jul 19 2017, 00:01
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 18 2017, 00:19) *

reached the 1269 hath threshold. wondering if there is any good investment for a melee char. i already own:
- VV
- Enigma Energizer
- Thinking Cap
- IA4
- DD
not interested in Crystarium, LGBD, Extra Strength, Dark Descent, Coupon Clipper, going mage

[Edit]: forgot going mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Go for Tokenizer I, definitely.

QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 18 2017, 22:03) *

I have an artic katana (ADB 30%) with butcher 4 and overpower 2. Do you think it would be better if I use my amnesia shards and aim for butcher and swift strike?

By the way, I use light armor


It depends on what you really want to do with your katana. If you want to blitz through low difficulty, your priority should be Overpower. Less hits parried, less time it takes you to finish.

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post Jul 19 2017, 00:23
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 18 2017, 14:57) *

Pen5 is mandatory if you want to mage seriously.
I'm not sure holy is a good choice for fests (unless you have ~500M and a high enough level) in 0.85 given how nintendo and lower are nerfed into oblivion.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Magic_Proficiencies
All the effect of magic proficiencies are listed there.
The one we were talking about is



Well the goal is just to finish faster than I do with 1H, so i figure it will take time to build to that. I really don't want to play imperil though
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post Jul 19 2017, 00:26
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 18 2017, 22:04) *

Why Butcher 4 Fatality 5? I thought Butcher 5 was better. Almost decided to reforge my rapier (B4F5) until I read this

it's also a matter of tastes. difference is quite negligible though. *maybe* you may prefer B4F5 if you have Savage armors, but we're still speaking about two very solid IWs
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post Jul 19 2017, 02:57
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 18 2017, 19:01) *

It depends on what you really want to do with your katana. If you want to blitz through low difficulty, your priority should be Overpower. Less hits parried, less time it takes you to finish.


I'll save my shards for something else. Thank you.
I won't be using it only in low difficulty, though :)

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post Jul 19 2017, 04:39
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Why are ponies so cheap when they have an abysmally low drop rate?
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post Jul 19 2017, 06:02
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 05:39) *

Why are ponies so cheap when they have an abysmally low drop rate?


I asked the exact same question some time ago. Short answer: supply and demand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 19 2017, 08:47
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What level range is best for getting figurines? Should only Archeologist and Luck of the Draw be trained for better chance at figurines (and artifacts)?

I got two figurines about 75-110 levels ago and they were always dropped by monsters from the Item World.

I was lucky tonight and checked the Item Shop and purchased a Princess Celestia Figurine.
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post Jul 19 2017, 09:18
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Ponies are mightily cheap despite their rarity so you're better off buying them from other players' shops. Archeologist costs shit tons of credits, and Luck of the Draw doesn't make much difference.
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post Jul 19 2017, 09:32
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sent you a berry punch, good luck
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post Jul 19 2017, 09:54
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 09:18) *

Ponies are mightily cheap despite their rarity so you're better off buying them from other players' shops. Archeologist costs shit tons of credits, and Luck of the Draw doesn't make much difference.


This, I can only agree with. The issue with figurines is that once you've got the whole collection, there is absolutely no point in getting more of them, so they have very little value for higher level players.
That being said, I still don't have OFC myself, and I think I may finish my collection soon just to clear DwD faster. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 19 2017, 09:58
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 19 2017, 06:02) *

I asked the exact same question some time ago. Short answer: supply and demand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Exactly.

QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 09:18) *

Ponies are mightily cheap despite their rarity so you're better off buying them from other players' shops. Archeologist costs shit tons of credits, and Luck of the Draw doesn't make much difference.

Exactly part 2
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post Jul 19 2017, 13:02
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Heya, I've been playing for some time but my understanding of the game is not the best so I am looking for advice. Cannot do full urls so please copy/paste them.

This is my build:
[i.imgur.com] (IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/HPDF88Ih.png)

Equipment (lvls 83-115, nothing enchanted or upgraded):
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Arena:
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I only ever got 1 Blood Token.

Heavy DualWield. I play by casting Protection (hoping for Channeling), stacking up Focus until it is maxed out, and then use Spirit. On higher difficulty I use Iris Strike, and then Backstab. When dropping HP I cast Cure and hope to proc Channeling to use Regen/Protection/Haste. I have one Scroll of Protection ready to use as an item, hp/mana pots, draughts, and elixir. That's currently my whole playstyle.


What do you recommend I change to optimize my character more? Swapping gear or playstyle is not a problem, I'll just need some time to stack up proficiency. Also I do not use any addons or plugins, are there any crucial ones I should be using? Anything else important I am missing out on?

[edit]: fixed links. cheers.

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post Jul 19 2017, 13:16
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You should use a of Nimble Off-Hand weapon. Also i suggest to have allways a bit more DEX than STR.

BTW i dont think DW heavy is the best decision. Ether switch to 1H and stay with heavy, or change to light armor.
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QUOTE(TheTrooper @ Jul 19 2017, 13:02) *

What do you recommend I change to optimize my character more? Swapping gear or playstyle is not a problem, I'll just need some time to stack up proficiency. Also I do not use any addons or plugins, are there any crucial ones I should be using? Anything else important I am missing out on?

[edit]: fixed links. cheers.


Wowowow. WHAT is that very old equipment? I mean, Fine equipment isn't even droppable since a while now. Where have you got it? Bought from the Bazaar?

That being said, just forget about Power Armor until you have a full Superior Power set that can allow you tu survive. Forget about higher difficulties for now too, that's just not worth it anyway. Do everything in Normal/Hard, and wait till you're lvl200-250 before trying anything higher.

As you may have noticed, it's taking you more and more rounds and monsters at once to clear an arena. Brace yourself against the monster power ramp up aswell: those which you've fought against until now are very easy to beat, but they're going to get their second MP attack and their spirit attack soon and they will also have much higher stats.

In terms of equipment, I'd say that you should already be thinking about getting a full Superior+ set, along with prefixed weapons. I won't deny the fact that they're not easy things to find though, at your level. Check the players shops for level unassigned weapons, that's basically your only hope if you don't want to rely on your drops.
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post Jul 19 2017, 14:17
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QUOTE(TheTrooper @ Jul 19 2017, 13:02) *

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Heavy DW is a very weird combination which leaves you standing there as a punch bag for monsters, and with your negligible defense to boot. DW with 0% evade is suicidal. As Uncle Stu already said, either DW + Light for better evade or 1H + Heavy for better defense. You might want to stay with DW Light a bit as it seems to give you more survivability than 1H Heavy at low levels. If possible, go for main hand rapier slaughter and off hand nimble wakizashi. Stock your blood token so that you can spam Flying Spaghetti Monster in the future.
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post Jul 19 2017, 14:27
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16) *

Wowowow. WHAT is that very old equipment? I mean, Fine equipment isn't even droppable since a while now. Where have you got it? Bought from the Bazaar?

Oh? Everything I have is Average, Fair, Fine, Superior, the Axe is my first Exquisite. Maybe I just haven't played in a long while, weird. But yeah I only use dropped stuff, I will look into player shops though.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16) *

That being said, just forget about Power Armor until you have a full Superior Power set that can allow you tu survive. Forget about higher difficulties for now too, that's just not worth it anyway. Do everything in Normal/Hard, and wait till you're lvl200-250 before trying anything higher.

I do seem to be getting XP way more faster on higher difficulties though (and it takes less time), should I be aiming at credits or XP?

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 14:16) *

As you may have noticed, it's taking you more and more rounds and monsters at once to clear an arena. Brace yourself against the monster power ramp up aswell: those which you've fought against until now are very easy to beat, but they're going to get their second MP attack and their spirit attack soon and they will also have much higher stats.

In terms of equipment, I'd say that you should already be thinking about getting a full Superior+ set, along with prefixed weapons. I won't deny the fact that they're not easy things to find though, at your level. Check the players shops for level unassigned weapons, that's basically your only hope if you don't want to rely on your drops.

Yeah some have been destroying me with spirit attacks, taking out my max HP in one hit. I will look for player shops, thanks!



QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:17) *

Heavy DW is a very weird combination which leaves you standing there as a punch bag for monsters, and with your negligible defense to boot. DW with 0% evade is suicidal. As Uncle Stu already said, either DW + Light for better evade or 1H + Heavy for better defense. You might want to stay with DW Light a bit as it seems to give you more survivability than 1H Heavy at low levels. If possible, go for main hand rapier slaughter and off hand nimble wakizashi. Stock your blood token so that you can spam Flying Spaghetti Monster in the future.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 19 2017, 13:16) *

You should use a of Nimble Off-Hand weapon. Also i suggest to have allways a bit more DEX than STR.

BTW i dont think DW heavy is the best decision. Ether switch to 1H and stay with heavy, or change to light armor.


Yeah I will be going with Light + DW, thanks all!

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post Jul 19 2017, 14:39
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Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon.
several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix.
what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance.
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post Jul 19 2017, 14:46
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:39) *

Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon.
several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix.
what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance.

Rapier is better
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