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post Jul 9 2017, 18:46
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QUOTE(Titan0s @ Jul 9 2017, 10:28) *

So, you are suggesting a heavy, high damage build with armor penetration?
I'm asking because I have some decent pieces of power armor and a legendary rapier on the standby, that need an investment of 6000 to 7000 soul fragments collectivelly, in order to be handled.

I was also wondering about spellcaster builds. Since everything even related to a spellcaster build is really expensive or it can't be found in the equip market, it must be a hell of a whoopass.


If you want more advice on your rapier and power gear: just post the links here and we'll have a look. A leg rapier may be good enough to soulfuse, but some suffix can be crap anyways.

Spellcaster build? A hell of a whoopass indeed, well put. We like to call it a 'mage build'. And it's expensive. And not recommended at your level because "better imperil" will only be available above lv 310. Best to wait a bit longer even. An alternative can be 1h mage, that can be used as a transition build to full mage. Check the wiki advice advanced page for more info on what it takes to become full mage. And remember that it will take about 20-30m before it really works.


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post Jul 9 2017, 19:04
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So I took a look at upgrading cloth armor for the first time ever today, and...

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Is this a display bug or do you actually need 600 Phazons to fully upgrade a single piece of phase armor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jul 9 2017, 19:22
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 9 2017, 19:04) *

So I took a look at upgrading cloth armor for the first time ever today, and...

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Is this a display bug or do you actually need 600 Phazons to fully upgrade a single piece of phase armor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

1. you need 1 phazon per upgrade overall level. maximum level = 50 (100 for radiants), then maixmum 50 phazons (100 for radiants)
2. +1% tooltip is wrong. actually it's a logarythm (at least at low levels).

where does that 600 come from, btw?
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post Jul 9 2017, 19:22
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 9 2017, 13:04) *

Is this a display bug or do you actually need 600 Phazons to fully upgrade a single piece of phase armor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

You only need 50 phazons for each piece of phase armor, 1 for each upgrade tier. Once you do an upgrade that uses a phazon, you don't need a phazon for the other 11 upgrades at that tier.

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post Jul 9 2017, 19:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 9 2017, 20:22) *

1. you need 1 phazon per upgrade overall level. maximum level = 50 (100 for radiants), then maixmum 50 phazons (100 for radiants)
2. +1% tooltip is wrong. actually it's a logarythm (at least at low levels).

where does that 600 come from, btw?


Well, since highlighting any stat (not just Holy damage) shows that it requires Phazons to upgrade (Wisdom is highlighted in the screenshot), I thought 12 stats x 50 levels each = 600.

Must be a display bug then. The way some people are talking about the cost of mage builds, I could almost believe that it needs that many Phazons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jul 9 2017, 19:33
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 9 2017, 19:28) *

Well, since highlighting any stat (not just Holy damage) shows that it requires Phazons to upgrade (Wisdom is highlighted in the screenshot), I thought 12 stats x 50 levels each = 600.

Must be a display bug then. The way some people are talking about the cost of mage builds, I could almost believe that it needs that many Phazons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


not a display bug, 1 phazon is for all stats at once, so you need 50 phazons only for all upgrades but still all other ingredients per level
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post Jul 9 2017, 19:47
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 9 2017, 19:28) *

Well, since highlighting any stat (not just Holy damage) shows that it requires Phazons to upgrade (Wisdom is highlighted in the screenshot), I thought 12 stats x 50 levels each = 600.

Must be a display bug then. The way some people are talking about the cost of mage builds, I could almost believe that it needs that many Phazons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

it's alright. you didn't upgrade anything yet, so whatever upgrade will cost you 1 phazon. as soon as you'll unlock a level, a phazon won't be required anymore. you can try with cheap things like a force shield or a shade armor, if you prefer.
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post Jul 10 2017, 00:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 9 2017, 19:47) *

it's alright. you didn't upgrade anything yet, so whatever upgrade will cost you 1 phazon. as soon as you'll unlock a level, a phazon won't be required anymore. you can try with cheap things like a force shield or a shade armor, if you prefer.

Or we just quote the force ingame text and can read that

Rare equipment types will also require a special component to upgrade. This component is only needed to increase the highest stat - if you previously spent five of them to increase a stat to Level 5 then every other stat can be increased to Level 5 without spending any additional rare components. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 10 2017, 01:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 9 2017, 09:39) *

just do your tests. for a certain while, personally i was also in doubt whether to repair them before bazaaring them. i tried a bit and saw difference was negligible (or however, not worth the hassle), but a low-level with a very tight budget may save some 1~2k this way.


I'm just going to sell them from now on.
At 1~2k, it's probably added up to over 100k loss or more by now.

Oh well... live and learn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 10 2017, 01:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 10 2017, 00:59) *

Or we just quote the force ingame text and can read that

Rare equipment types will also require a special component to upgrade. This component is only needed to increase the highest stat - if you previously spent five of them to increase a stat to Level 5 then every other stat can be increased to Level 5 without spending any additional rare components. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

that's a chance, yep.
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post Jul 10 2017, 20:36
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Which is best Monster Class?
I created 4 monsters (all nearly level 100) of diff class but they are not delivering killing blows Since i created them (It's been many months ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Jul 10 2017, 20:39
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Which is best Monster Class?

To be exact none.
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post Jul 10 2017, 21:25
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jul 10 2017, 20:36) *

Which is best Monster Class?
I created 4 monsters (all nearly level 100) of diff class but they are not delivering killing blows Since i created them (It's been many months ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


As Stu said. Uncle Stu is always right, by the way. But there is more: the best monster class is the one that is funny in combination with the name.

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post Jul 10 2017, 21:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 9 2017, 19:46) *

If you want more advice on your rapier and power gear: just post the links here and we'll have a look. A leg rapier may be good enough to soulfuse, but some suffix can be crap anyways.

Spellcaster build? A hell of a whoopass indeed, well put. We like to call it a 'mage build'. And it's expensive. And not recommended at your level because "better imperil" will only be available above lv 310. Best to wait a bit longer even. An alternative can be 1h mage, that can be used as a transition build to full mage. Check the wiki advice advanced page for more info on what it takes to become full mage. And remember that it will take about 20-30m before it really works.


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post Jul 10 2017, 23:01
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QUOTE(Titan0s @ Jul 10 2017, 21:55) *

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Here are my current stats, the rapier I'm talking about and my current sword



The rapier suffix is more like a 'suckix'. Maybe best not to soulfuse that one.... Find a rapier of balance or better yet a rapier of slaughter. Still the 'illith' rapier is better than that sword.

Pro tip: paste the link to a piece of equipment like this:
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Select the equip in HV, press [c] (no CAPS!) and you get a pop-up from the equip. Copy the address and add the link in the forum post.

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post Jul 11 2017, 00:13
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Which scrolls are worth using as a dark mage? Recently started doing PFUDOR arenas and Grindfests (both imperil-less and imperil depending on how focused I am) and have been spamming Scroll of protection since it greatly reduces my healing and increases my clear speed significantly (around 10% faster). Are any of the other scrolls worth using for their cost per scroll? I have 20.2% cast speed bonus, 59.4% phy mit, and 48.7% evasion if that helps.
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post Jul 11 2017, 00:21
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apart for Protection i'd say Swiftness, Shadows and Life...

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post Jul 11 2017, 00:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 11 2017, 00:21) *

apart for Protection i'd say Swiftness, Shadows and Life...

wait why life? also i probably should add i currently have IA3 w/ SoL, SS, and haste slotted.
Also looking for cost effiency scrolls, I use protection because I make well over the amount a Scroll of protection is worth within the time I saved.

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post Jul 11 2017, 00:38
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jul 11 2017, 00:23) *

wait why life? also i probably should add i currently have IA3 w/ SoL, SS, and haste slotted.
Also looking for cost effiency scrolls, I use protection because I make well over the amount a Scroll of protection is worth within the time I saved.

it consumes 25% SP and leaves you with 50% HP left. something like that. also, it's cheap enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 11 2017, 01:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 11 2017, 00:38) *

it consumes 25% SP and leaves you with 50% HP left. something like that. also, it's cheap enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's very, very good to know but I dont proc SoL often in arena so it be only useful for deep GF for me. How about the haste and/or shadow veil ones, would those be worth using? one of the things that really slows me down is that I'm spam healing, but I don't know if either of those scrolls would make a big enough difference to warrant the cost.

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