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post Nov 29 2011, 14:17
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Nov 29 2011, 18:23) *

I'm shocked you don't have all your Abilities Maxed long ago.


Do the APs stop being given out once the tanks have been filled out?
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post Nov 29 2011, 14:24
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68 more AP if I want to max overcharge. That's only like 3000 artifacts, no biggie. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 29 2011, 14:26
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QUOTE(DSpooky @ Nov 28 2011, 17:32) *

Are ethereal weapons really worth it? Yes they do void damage which cannot be resisted, but one swing (if I hit) will kill them while my ethereal longsword may leave with 1hp left.

Yes, ethereal weapons are worth it.
Yes, in certain situations a normal weapon might be better, such as against a monster that has negative resists to your damage type (is vulnerable, in other words).
But it is far more common that they have resists than they have weaknesses, so what you lose against some, you win against other.
And especially the more common higher level monsters have high melee resists (such as dragonkin, giants etc)

Ethereal weapons do a little less base damage, but make up for it with doing void damage.
But they also doesn't have any burden or interference, which is a major bonus which should not be overlooked.
It will make you a little faster and make your spells a little better, compared to a non-ethereal weapon which would most likely put you over the limit for burden and interference.

QUOTE(cyberwaveIT @ Nov 29 2011, 13:17) *

Do the APs stop being given out once the tanks have been filled out?

As far as I understand it, no.
There is someone who has complained about that, having filled every slot in the ability tree, and still has AP left over.
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post Nov 29 2011, 15:04
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QUOTE(Randommember @ Nov 29 2011, 20:26) *

Yes, ethereal weapons are worth it.
Yes, in certain situations a normal weapon might be better, such as against a monster that has negative resists to your damage type (is vulnerable, in other words).
But it is far more common that they have resists than they have weaknesses, so what you lose against some, you win against other.
And especially the more common higher level monsters have high melee resists (such as dragonkin, giants etc)

Ethereal weapons do a little less base damage, but make up for it with doing void damage.
But they also doesn't have any burden or interference, which is a major bonus which should not be overlooked.
It will make you a little faster and make your spells a little better, compared to a non-ethereal weapon which would most likely put you over the limit for burden and interference.


I've a few low level Ethereal weapons that were dropped along the way, between Lv30 to Lv60. Should I try to bring them up thru IW?
It does take a lot of time, gaining EXP but not any credits (as well as getting tougher with more monsters to battle)

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As far as I understand it, no.
There is someone who has complained about that, having filled every slot in the ability tree, and still has AP left over.


A pity, if only the system can be made aware & instead give out other items in it's place.
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post Nov 29 2011, 16:07
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I still strongly believe that the "eth gear have worst stats than normal gear" is just a myth; a thing of the past...

While it's true that Tenb does said this.* I remember that he saying that a long time ago. And eth weapon that drop at that time does, indeed, have a lot lower stats than the normal stuff, and the difference is clearly visible to anyone. I actually have a link to a few of them in my old computer, but since it's now dead, I can't show an example.

Eth nowadays have pretty much, if not exactly the same stats, as a normal weapon. I can bet my ass on this! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)





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post Nov 29 2011, 16:22
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QUOTE(cyberwaveIT @ Nov 29 2011, 13:17) *
Do the APs stop being given out once the tanks have been filled out?

Apparently yes, but this has only started recently.
Meaning older players still had the time to pile up useless AP.
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post Nov 29 2011, 17:51
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 29 2011, 22:07) *

I still strongly believe that the "eth gear have worst stats than normal gear" is just a myth; a thing of the past...


I would say it's because the average quality of the equipments is increased after 0.6.1, so even if there's some 25% decrease in quality it's still pretty decent.

QUOTE(cyberwaveIT @ Nov 29 2011, 21:04) *

I've a few low level Ethereal weapons that were dropped along the way, between Lv30 to Lv60. Should I try to bring them up thru IW?


Except it's something as ridiculous as this one, I don't think it worths the time to raise that in IW.
I will need at least 3 months of effort to raise that beyond level 200.

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post Nov 29 2011, 19:25
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Man I would totally spend the time to level that mace just to have it become useless on the next patch
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post Nov 29 2011, 19:50
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These are the low levels Ethereal I have, will it be worth my while & effort to up-level them?

Fine Ethereal Axe of Balance - Lv35
Fine Ethereal Dagger of the Raccoon - Lv36
Superior Ethereal Dagger of Slaughter - Lv58 (occasionally using with an exquisite shield to train up 1H Proc)
Fine Ethereal Shortsword of Balance - Lv45
Fine Ethereal Longsword of the Ox - Lv57 (once in a while just for the fun of it)
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post Nov 29 2011, 21:49
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Hi, how much do you think this would be worth? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Superior Ethereal Mace of Balance

I was hoping to sell it to somebody but don't know what to charge them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Nov 30 2011, 00:12
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Nov 29 2011, 14:49) *

Hi, how much do you think this would be worth? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Superior Ethereal Mace of Balance

I was hoping to sell it to somebody but don't know what to charge them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

1) Put it up for auction
2) Touch yourself
3) ????
4) Profit


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Oh yeah, there seems to be some misconceptions about AP from Artifacts. The rate at which they are rewarded decreases significantly as the number of AP you need to max the tree decreases similar to the way your chances of getting a stat boost decreases as you get more of them. It has nothing to do with being high level.

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post Nov 30 2011, 00:38
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QUOTE(derpymal @ Nov 29 2011, 17:12) *

Oh yeah, there seems to be some misconceptions about AP from Artifacts. The rate at which they are rewarded decreases significantly as the number of AP you need to max the tree decreases similar to the way your chances of getting a stat boost decreases as you get more of them. It has nothing to do with being high level.


I never really thought that it was directly linked being high level, merely that as a high level player, you've probably got much more training done to increase artifact drop rate, you play more rounds so you're more likely to benefit from that increased drop rate, and that because of all the artifacts you get, you'd have have more boosts and therefore be more likely to gain AP from artifacts.
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post Nov 30 2011, 00:44
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I burned about 131 artifacts in one go a while back. What I got was:

45.0% crystals
30.5% energy drinks
22.1% hath
2.3% AP

My artifact stat bonuses have been maxed for a while. 146 AP left to max everything.

Didn't notice the update to AP gain, was it announced on twitter or something?
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post Nov 30 2011, 00:52
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Nov 30 2011, 00:44) *

I burned about 131 artifacts in one go a while back. What I got was:

45.0% crystals
30.5% energy drinks
22.1% hath
2.3% AP

My artifact stat bonuses have been maxed for a while. 146 AP left to max everything.

Didn't notice the update to AP gain, was it announced on twitter or something?

how many crystals and hath u got?
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post Nov 30 2011, 00:54
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Nov 29 2011, 14:44) *

I burned about 131 artifacts in one go a while back. What I got was:

45.0% crystals
30.5% energy drinks
22.1% hath
2.3% AP

Your got all your +20s already?

Oh, and were any of the Hath drops 4? I heard they no longer go that high.
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post Nov 30 2011, 00:56
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QUOTE(Nish @ Nov 30 2011, 06:52) *

how many crystals and hath u got?

In that session? 29500/74 respectively.

QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Nov 30 2011, 06:54) *

Your got all your +20s already?

Oh, and were any of the Hath drops 4? I heard they no longer go that high.

Yeah, a while back (way before I offered all those artifacts). No 4 hath drops.

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post Nov 30 2011, 01:08
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Nov 29 2011, 21:49) *

Hi, how much do you think this would be worth? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Superior Ethereal Mace of Balance

I was hoping to sell it to somebody but don't know what to charge them... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Quite a good piece of equipment for a low-level melee specced for 2H. Balance suffix provides additional crit which works just great with a decent (25%) proc chance, plus the stun duration is nice. I would totally pick Balance mace over any Ox and maybe even Slaughter with low proc stats. Crit is a MUST when you're fighting 5+ enemies on BT/IWBTH.
But I dont think you can actually SELL it. Reason is simple: higher level players would profit very little from it as it is very underleveled for them and lowbies are simply low on credits.
I dunno, try leveling it up?

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post Nov 30 2011, 01:33
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Crysan 3? Ugh boooo expensive and yeah Joe, the hath was dropped to 2-3 a while ago (April or so this year if I remember right?). I'd argue that's probably one of the main reasons for hath price increase.
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post Nov 30 2011, 04:28
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Has this ever happened to anyone?

I did the The Trio and the Tree arena, which took my stamina from 99 to 95. Not even half an hour later, I started Eve of Death and noticed that my stamina was back at 99. The Trio and the Tree took me around 30-45 minutes to complete because I wasn't really paying attention, but that's not enough time to regenerate 4 points of stamina. I am positive that this has happened to me before, although with a different set of arenas. Maybe I'm just missing something really obvious. (And no, I did not use an Energy Drink. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

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post Nov 30 2011, 04:39
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Level 84 now looking for some advice.
Heres my stats!
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Currently a mace totting heavy =) with ALL THE INTERFERENCE/BURDEN!

I was wondering if theres another 'class' that has good staying power in the grindfests?

I don't want anything too complex like having to match elemental weaknesses or anything but maybe just a way to sustain myself better. So I can go for more than 30 rounds at a time even if its a bit slower. Best I've done is 40 rounds chugging 3HP pots and 4Mana.

I heard talk of a hybrid battlecaster? a ether theft staff user in light armor...

It would be really cool if there was a list of all the supposed classes and their strengths/weaknesses and gameplay difficulty.

I also can't tell if equipment is an upgrade or a downgrade when I look at the stuff in the auctions or bazaar. Even with the equip compare script I've yet to see a piece with green upgrades across the board and it usually comes down to Physical reduction vs mitigation... and I don't know which is better.
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