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post Jul 2 2017, 14:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 14:34) *

Or you have such terrific gear that you don't need it.

Nope, okay-ish gear is allready enough. The only reason to use even imperil is just to speed up the SG arenas. Nothing else.
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post Jul 2 2017, 15:07
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 11:20) *

Playing 1H also requires a shitload of deprecating spells.

I kept 1H play till level ~430 and I've never used a single deprecating spell.
Even Imperil is not that useful when you have a rapier.
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post Jul 2 2017, 15:27
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 2 2017, 16:07) *

I kept 1H play till level ~430 and I've never used a single deprecating spell.
Even Imperil is not that useful when you have a rapier.


Pretty much this.

I used a lot of deprecating spells when I was lower-level though, so they're not exactly useless. However, although I'm still playing 1H, I barely even use Imperil anymore. Like Sapo84 said, the PA proc already takes care of that, so Imperil doesn't provide that noticeable of an increase in clear speed of SG arenas.

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post Jul 2 2017, 18:48
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Now that I finaly optimized the Monsterbation script to my playstyle I started paying attention to my t/s. On a really good arena run, paying full attention to it and doing everything as fast as I can, it tops at 2~2.1 t/s...

I already use Firefox Portable 48.0.2 with no history saving, as Sapo suggested somewhere on this topic. And once I saw Scremax saying that his router was poorly configurated when talking about t/s, so I guess mine is too, since I've never done anything on this regard...

Is there any way to improve that? I use wi-fi, and I know that's somewhat of a limiter, but I really think it could be better.


off-question: was reading about imperil for 1h... I use this rapier, so no elemental damage. But was thinking if it's valid getting some imperil abilities and holy imperil to use on Konata... (I have lots of non spent ability points)

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post Jul 2 2017, 18:57
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jul 2 2017, 18:48) *

I already use Firefox Portable 48.0.2 with no history saving, as Sapo suggested somewhere on this topic.

For 0.85 Chrome is probably a bit better.
Portable install + incognito mode (but you need to enable tampermoneky in incognito mode) should grant the best speed possible.


QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jul 2 2017, 18:48) *
off-question: was reading about imperil for 1h... I use this rapier, so no elemental damage. But was thinking if it's valid getting some imperil abilities and holy imperil to use on Konata... (I have lots of non spent ability points)

It don't think it will make that big of a difference, but if you have unspent points it's not like there are many abilities to spend points on with 1H.
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post Jul 2 2017, 19:02
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jul 2 2017, 18:48) *

once I saw Scremax saying that his router was poorly configurated when talking about t/s, so I guess mine is too, since I've never done anything on this regard...

it simply was one of the chances i was considering, since on other lines it went pretty good. but since speed skyrocketed with this last patch, i'm starting to think it wasn't the cause either...

QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jul 2 2017, 18:48) *

Is there any way to improve that?

wait for another patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

and meanwhile, bear with people whining their speed dramatically dropped from 3.5 to 3.3 t/s...

QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jul 2 2017, 18:48) *

off-question: was reading about imperil for 1h... I use this rapier, so no elemental damage. But was thinking if it's valid getting some imperil abilities and holy imperil to use on Konata... (I have lots of non spent ability points)

just focus on Better Imperil. i doubt Holy Imperil will do that big of a difference - especially if compared with Penetrated Armor
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post Jul 2 2017, 19:36
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At what rate does the exp requirement increase in the high 300s and low 400s?

If I had to hazard a guess now (360s), it's on the order of 100 million exp a level.

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post Jul 2 2017, 19:44
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At what rate does the exp requirement increase in the high 300s and low 400s?

If I had to hazard a guess now (360s), it's on the order of 100 million exp a level.

I guess this will help you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_and_Rank_Table
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post Jul 2 2017, 20:24
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 2 2017, 15:07) *
Even Imperil is not that useful when you have a rapier.


QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 14:34) *
Or you have such terrific gear that you don't need it.


I'm talking to walls. Not everyone has a decent rapier. I have yet to drop one for my part. All I have is an Exq Ethereal Rapier of the Vampire, which has garbage damage and garbage as other stats aswell.

That being said, now that monsters have much less HP in PFUDOR, I'm not sure that rapiers are that superior to the rest anymore. It takes me 3-7 hits with spirit+imperil on a balance shortsword, so I can easily imagine one going with an Axe of Slaughter to strike the monsters with 1-3 hits.
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post Jul 2 2017, 21:08
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 20:24) *

I'm talking to walls. Not everyone has a decent rapier. I have yet to drop one for my part. All I have is an Exq Ethereal Rapier of the Vampire, which has garbage damage and garbage as other stats aswell.

If, at nearly level 300, you still don't have, at least, a mag rapier of slaughter there's not much to say.
I'm not gonna say that's normal and a great way to play.

And, just saying, you generate enough haths to buy a decent leg rapier every week.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 20:24) *

It takes me 3-7 hits with spirit+imperil on a balance shortsword, so I can easily imagine one going with an Axe of Slaughter to strike the monsters with 1-3 hits.

1-3 hits for a SG? Nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
You greatly overestimate the ADB difference between different 1H weapons (it's a little bit more than 10% between axe and rapier for high-level players).

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post Jul 2 2017, 21:42
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 2 2017, 21:08) *

And, just saying, you generate enough haths to buy a decent leg rapier every week.

someone scroogier than me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 2 2017, 22:08
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I use my hath for hath perks. Got a problem with that?
Also, go find equipment in shops and auctions that can be bought and equipped for someone of my level.

Also, 1H is not my goal in terms of optimization. Power 2H is. I do with what I drop and frankly I already consider myself lucky to be able to do IW and RE in PFUDOR with that.

Quick question: do armor only ever get two potencies?

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post Jul 2 2017, 22:59
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 22:08) *

Also, 1H is not my goal in terms of optimization. Power 2H is. I do with what I drop and frankly I already consider myself lucky to be able to do IW and RE in PFUDOR with that.

1. 2H isn't really good in this meta. but if you like it, that's a whole other matter.
2. 2H isn't really good because it lacks defense. no block (unless you use shielding, and still...), low parry... if you throw in Power armors, you'll also have no evade, no speed and no resist - and you will have to rely on mitigations.
i'd give shades a shot, if i was you. a bit lower ADB, but higher Crit. and safer imo. just saying.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 22:08) *

Quick question: do armor only ever get two potencies?

no. as every other piece, they can have a maximum of three. if it happened, it happened by chance.
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post Jul 2 2017, 23:05
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 2 2017, 22:59) *

2. 2H isn't really good because it lacks defense.

my hallowed mace that i use with holy imperil would like a word with you
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post Jul 2 2017, 23:29
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 2 2017, 22:08) *

I use my hath for hath perks. Got a problem with that?
Also, go find equipment in shops and auctions that can be bought and equipped for someone of my level.

I have no problem with how you decide to spend your "money", but you keep complaining about your crap equipments vs all the awesome equipments all the others have while you have enough credits to get something at least decent (I didn't say you have to invest all your haths (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))

Anyway, checking the last 10 Super's auctions I found
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One02 Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter 344, ADB 80%, Parry 56% 1250k (LogJammin #173.5)
One02 Magnificent Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter 344, ADB 37% 150k (shishagami #59)
One03 Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter 328 100k (feeling2love #89)
One04 Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter Unassigned, IW 4 500k (Ssfuse #124)
One03 Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter 376, ADB 55%, Parry 35% 500k (Ajo archer #291)
One05 Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Balance 222, ADB 81%, Parry 32% 375k (Talisman1 #270)


Even if you go the extra length to add the "I don't want to soulfuse" rule, there are still 2 valid choices.
Some are really dirty cheap and would have let you clear arenas much master (time = money, so in the end a decent rapier would have repaid itself pretty easily).

Also given how patch 0.85 nerfed the lower difficulties I fear 2H Power won't be viable for quite some time.
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post Jul 2 2017, 23:52
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jul 2 2017, 23:05) *

my hallowed mace that i use with holy imperil would like a word with you

mace is somehow decent. but it still lacks from 2H weaknesses. either way, may i have more details?

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 2 2017, 23:29) *

I have no problem with how you decide to spend your "money", but you keep complaining about your crap equipments vs all the awesome equipments all the others have while you have enough credits to get something at least decent (I didn't say you have to invest all your haths (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))

anyways, perks have to act on something, i guess.
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post Jul 3 2017, 00:00
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 2 2017, 22:59) *
no. as every other piece, they can have a maximum of three. if it happened, it happened by chance.


Overly lucky to get this with the first try then?
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post Jul 3 2017, 00:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 2 2017, 23:52) *

mace is somehow decent. but it still lacks from 2H weaknesses. either way, may i have more details?

this is it: Legendary Hallowed Mace of the Illithid

i have no problem running PF REs and arenas with it. swift strike and crit + speed from light armour make stuns come out faster increasing defences further. once the stun train gets rolling you become The Untouchable Monster

though i haven't bothered with grindfest at all so far, so i can't comment on its relative performance in that
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post Jul 3 2017, 00:29
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 3 2017, 00:00) *

Overly lucky to get this with the first try then?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/119152180/bb4ab3d097

well, jug5 is good. wind5 is only a filler. whatever else would've been fine anyways. personally i'd prefer capacitor, holyproof or fireproof, but it's only a trivial thing

QUOTE(sickentide @ Jul 3 2017, 00:07) *

this is it: Legendary Hallowed Mace of the Illithid

i have no problem running PF REs and arenas with it. swift strike and crit + speed from light armour make stuns come out faster increasing defences further. once the stun train gets rolling you become The Untouchable Monster

oh, shade armors then? and feathered or not?
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post Jul 3 2017, 00:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 3 2017, 00:29) *

oh, shade armors then? and feathered or not?

full shade would be ideal, but i'm still stuck with two pieces of leather. no feather
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