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is Jug4 good enough for a high-level mage? or anything different than Jug5 is mere crap and should be resetted asap?

to be honest i am saving budget to support WTB thread

i wish to forge Kite Shield it's cheaper than buy a new decent force shield right ？

it depends. force shields better than that can be found for 100k or so, and you'll start to need HG Wood pretty soon (provided you already didn't), which means 8.5k/stat, then 2*8.5k/stat and so on. personally, if i had to sink credits in a HG material, i'd rather prefer to use them in the best possible way...

Thanks a lot,and I did some calculations,if I want 0.68prof the base prof should be higher than 12.40,am I right?

No, unless you meant 14.40 (it should be around 14.40-14.50)

I take it you had a tier 3 in there to slowly clear things out?

Nope, the idea is that you don't do damage while grinding.
And, anyway, drain is enough to clear the rounds.

is Jug4 good enough for a high-level mage? or anything different than Jug5 is mere crap and should be resetted asap?

Well, given how cheap Jug5 is I'd say go for Jug5, it's worth the cost.

Well, given how cheap Jug5 is I'd say go for Jug5, it's worth the cost.

matter is, i reached jug4 in that radiant that i wanted to auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

oh, well. i'll add a line in which i say that i'll eventually cover the reforge fees

matter is, i reached jug4 in that radiant that i wanted to auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Why did you even IW something you want to auction in the first place? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Why did you even IW something you want to auction in the first place? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

i hoped in a plusvalue. however, jug4 with one shard. not that bad of a result, afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i hoped in a plusvalue. however, jug4 with one shard. not that bad of a result, afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

TBH i would never pay for a armor a single credits more just because of IW. For a weapon, well that would be another horse i guess.

i hoped in a plusvalue. however, jug4 with one shard. not that bad of a result, afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Scremaz-sempai is gonna be rich, yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

TBH i would never pay for a armor a single credits more just because of IW. For a weapon, well that would be another horse i guess.

we think as melees, uncle. and for melees juggernaut isn't a priority (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Scremaz-sempai is gonna be rich, yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

a bit of luck every now and then, lol

we think as melees, uncle. and for melees juggernaut isn't a priority (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Juggernaut is something to eat, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Juggernaut is something to eat, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

thought it was a marvel's character...

No, unless you meant 14.40 (it should be around 14.40-14.50)

er,sorry typo,I mean 14.40.
With this number confirmed,I can choose gear easily.
Many thanks.

it depends. force shields better than that can be found for 100k or so, and you'll start to need HG Wood pretty soon (provided you already didn't), which means 8.5k/stat, then 2*8.5k/stat and so on. personally, if i had to sink credits in a HG material, i'd rather prefer to use them in the best possible way...

Yea., but kite shields with a 90% ADB can be had for 50k, their upgrade doesn't require a defense matrix modulator, which from the start costs 25k per, and one needed per upgrade. And both kinds will end up using HG wood, so that whole line of argument is bogus.

It's really this: do you buy a good force shield at half a million to a million, or do you find a good kite shield and make some additional upgrades to keep it comparable to force shields?

Kite shield start with lower base stat but cost less to upgrade. My kite shield, for example (Compare to the shield DJNoni has in his sig, and I'm what, 100 levels lower). That said, the sooner he can get to > 50% block on his shield, the sooner he can do IWTBH. My stats are better but "just" better.

I can do IWTBH IW now but it's not "go to sleep" and do IWTBH. The ride can be rocky.

PS - all that said, I think 15k HP seems low as well. I'm around 20k atm. The hath perk VV is recommended for the OP.

This post has been edited by dmyers59: Jun 21 2017, 15:47

defense matrix modulator, which from the start costs 25k per, and one needed per upgrade

last time i checked they were easily purchase-able at 10k or so in WTB. if there's someone who purchases them at 25, please tell me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
also, 10k per upgrade level.

And both kinds will end up using HG wood, so that whole line of argument is bogus.

yep, they will both use HG Wood. but average block for L Kite is 34.33, while average block for L Force is 37.08. ratio is 1.08, which means 5 forge levels already (roughly 50k worth of matrixes).
given how cheap low-block force shields are, i don't see a reason to bother with kites - unless it's a selfdrop and you're tight on budget, of course.

Compare to the shield DJNoni has in his sig, and I'm what, 100 levels lower

Soulbound equipments are automatically scaled to the level of the viewer, so there is 0 level difference.

And if you compare both his it's 8 block level lower (nearly 400k credits worth of forge) while the block chance is pretty similar.
And 18 DMM are <=180k credits if you use WTB.

Cost less and it can go higher.
Force > Kite, if you're serious about 1H your only choices are either force or buckler of barrier (if you can get a 37+ block one, which would cost a lot).

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Jun 21 2017, 16:12

given how cheap low-block force shields are, i don't see a reason to bother with kites - unless it's a selfdrop and you're tight on budget, of course.

Decent force shields, one you would want forever, cost plenty. And the first 5 upgrades of a kite shield involve an inexpensive catalyst and mid grade wood, which most 300ish players have. By contrast, how many 300ish players have DMM drops?

Then of course, if you've invested in a kite shield and then get a force drop, which one can be more inexpensively raised to 55%? Feel free to calculate that with your calculator. At what point in the block % scale does the upgrade break even?

how many 300ish players have DMM drops?

Let's change the question.
How many 300ish players are able to open a WTB requesting some DMMs for 10k/piece?
I'm guessing everyone who is reading this topic btw.

Then of course, if you've invested in a kite shield and then get a force drop, which one can be more inexpensively raised to 55%? Feel free to calculate that with your calculator. At what point in the block % scale does the upgrade break even?

With block lvl 14 it should already be better than your current one.
So it already breaks even since you can salvage your current one, sell enough HGWood to buy 14 DMM, sell enough HGWood to cover for catalyst and still be able to forge at least to 14.

Every time you upgrade a kite shield you're wasting credits, and the more you upgrade the more credits you're losing.
In the long run salvaging stuff is always better than forging bad equipments.

still better than those who come asking, read and never reply, imo... a bit of gratitude is always appreciated. it makes us willing to go on with what we're doing, i guess

Oops... Already asked you guys a lot of thinks but didn't thank because I though it would be just a spam.

So thank you all for the quick aswers and everything you do to the community. I read everything on this thread while I'm active on the game and you guys rock!

And a special thanks to Sapo84 who answered my last questions about mage.

I though it would be just a spam.

Be polite is never spam. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Oops... Already asked you guys a lot of thinks but didn't thank because I though it would be just a spam.

well, it's not like i *demand* for that. nor that i'm speaking for all the other guys around. it's just a personal hint. but imo spamming is something like:

post #1: hey, go to this site that i just opened!
post #2: hey, go to this site that i just opened!
post #3: hey, go to this site that i just opened!
...
post #n: hey, did you go to this site that i just opened?

quite different from that, since:

Be polite is never spam. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

and besides, we're quite chatty here, if you didn't note it already (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jun 21 2017, 18:08

With block lvl 14 it should already be better than your current one.
So it already breaks even since you can salvage your current one, sell enough HGWood to buy 14 DMM, sell enough HGWood to cover for catalyst and still be able to forge at least to 14.

Every time you upgrade a kite shield you're wasting credits, and the more you upgrade the more credits you're losing.
In the long run salvaging stuff is always better than forging bad equipments.

Let me get this straight. A kite shield is a bad investment, so bad that /salvaging/ the kite shield pays
for the upgrade of the force shield?

Isn't this akin to suggesting that starter houses are bad investments, since all the money put into them is wasted .. well, until you /sell/ the starter house?

It's also pretty clear that the optimizations you guys are talking about are at best in the tens to hundreds of thousands range, and thats a value that 300ish players can generate through arena drops/credits in roughly a week or so (assuming you can do an hour of of arenas a day). If the cost of using a kite shield is, at best, catalyst + 0.1*(materials), and the value is that it buys you time to look for a shield a 450+ player won't sneer at, I still don't see the case for ignoring them.

This is /particularly/ true when the alternative recommended is a "low block" (i.e. crap) leg shield, which would need replacing with a better legendary anyway. Thus, this class of shields will also suffer the catalyst + 0.1*(materials) use cost.