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Jun 18 2017, 20:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jun 18 2017, 20:37)  for a script i'm working on i need a link to the flower vase effect icon and i don't feel like spending one of the 3 vases i've got. so if anyone plans to use a vase any time soon, it would be cool if you could paste a link to the icon in here real quick
this one? https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Special_Items
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Jun 18 2017, 20:58
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 20:56)  that's where i went to look for it, but it just shows the ragnarok icon. is it really this one that shows up in game?
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Jun 18 2017, 21:35
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xcaliber9999
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 18 2017, 22:56)  General: ALL Staff: ALL but Staff Damage Cloth: ALL Divine: ALL Depr1: Better and faster imperil Depr2: Nothing, possibly drain + ether theft if you have nothing better Supp1: ALL but Heartseeker and Absorb Supp2: ALL Rest: Nothing If you have no mage gears you can't play mage. And if you can't play mage you don't need mage proficiencies (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Thanks a lot. hehe very funny (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 23:19)  ^ disclaimer: this guy plays with ether theft proc. i don't suggest to do so to a beginner. especially since at low difficulty mobs will die quite quickly. first, you can discard Staff Damage (the physical one). later on, even the accuracy one second, you may need something like 100 ability boost or so as for the rest, well... deprecating section: upgrade imperil (both abilities), and personally i suggest also silence. not sure if magnet is useful supportive: all, without absorb and heartseeker (which will be replaced by arcane focus). not sure which spike to pick, maybe Elec? elemental: nothing forbidden: nothing divine: better smite and holy imperil. slot banish and paradise only when you'll unlock the spells. don't bother with soul fire, especially at the start nothing nothing? for a starter, just focus on close a set. even non holy ones, as long as evade and pabs are good enough. you don't need top-tier gears. i may lend you something for a while, but i need to check if i have enough pieces for a second set
Thanks a lot. Will really appreciate if u can provide me a set to grind or if not possible tell me what to buy to start. QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 18 2017, 23:24)  Thanks will look into it QUOTE(friggo @ Jun 18 2017, 23:43)  I'm also trying to raise magic proficiency, but since I'm in no hurry, I'm just throwing 1-2 random spells each round as I'm playing Arenas with my regular melee build. There might be more optimal ways, but it works quite well. I've gone from 0 to 200 magic proficiency in just a few days without even trying too much. Didn't you buy a EDB 98% heimdall phase robe from an auction like yesterday? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Thanks for your advice. As for the heimdall robe that's the only mage gear I have right now nothing else. I got it in a hurry yesterday you can say it was an impulse buying ... was a bad purchase to be honest should have gone for a charged one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) than again they are crazy expensive right heck I don't even know whether the robe is a good purchase or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jun 18 2017, 22:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 21:35)  Thanks a lot. Will really appreciate if u can provide me a set to grind or if not possible tell me what to buy to start.
sent you something. not the best things around, but still something to start. as for staff you may want a hallowed oak of heimdall, or at least a hallowed katalox of destruction. probably, for a starter a hallowed oak of earth-walker may be useful (and cheap!) too. as for the armors, phase of heimdall or cotton of heaven-sent. when you'll be a proper mage the exact ratio between phase and cotton will depend on whether you'll play with imperil or not. for now, while you're still building prof, just go with whatever you can find. but since i sent you a couple of prof pieces, you'd better find phases for the remaining ones This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jun 18 2017, 22:16
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Jun 18 2017, 22:18
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Kira.Yoshikage
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Can I get 0,68prof with these two pieces? staffshoesI have Eminent Elementalist perk.
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Jun 18 2017, 22:37
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xcaliber9999
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 19 2017, 01:42)  sent you something. not the best things around, but still something to start. as for staff you may want a hallowed oak of heimdall, or at least a hallowed katalox of destruction. probably, for a starter a hallowed oak of earth-walker may be useful (and cheap!) too. as for the armors, phase of heimdall or cotton of heaven-sent. when you'll be a proper mage the exact ratio between phase and cotton will depend on whether you'll play with imperil or not. for now, while you're still building prof, just go with whatever you can find. but since i sent you a couple of prof pieces, you'd better find phases for the remaining ones
Thank you so much man really appreciate it. Now what to spam in order to get the proficiency up. I don't know what to do in the battle Like in melee (auto-cast take care of - haste, spark of life, protection, spirit shield) all I have to do is cast regen and heartseeker) than hover over monsters to kill What should i do for mage. Please tell the steps to this noob thx This post has been edited by xcaliber9999: Jun 18 2017, 22:38
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Jun 18 2017, 22:45
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 22:37)  Thank you so much man really appreciate it. Now what to spam in order to get the proficiency up. I don't know what to do in the battle
Like in melee (auto-cast take care of - haste, spark of life, protection, spirit shield) all I have to do is cast regen and heartseeker) than hover over monsters to kill
What should i do for mage. Please tell the steps to this noob
thx
slot in IA all the spells you can, depending on how many slots you have. as a rule of thumb, protection has the lowest priority but at low difficulties there's the chance you won't need spark, so your call. just try a bit. all the remaning spells (out of the 5 IA-able ones) have to be manually casted, since a mage need all of them. Regen at the start of the quest, then simply spam Smite. Arcane Focus only when you trigger a channelling. if you want to do some quick tests while also gaining a profit, go with SG arenas. try also to play with and without imperil to check what you prefer. eventually, it has to be casted at the start of every round. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jun 18 2017, 22:52
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Jun 18 2017, 23:00
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Noni
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jun 18 2017, 20:58)  that's where i went to look for it, but it just shows the ragnarok icon. is it really this one that shows up in game?
Yep, that's the one.
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Jun 18 2017, 23:04
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xcaliber9999
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 19 2017, 02:15)  slot in IA all the spells you can, depending on how many slots you have. as a rule of thumb, protection has the lowest priority but at low difficulties there's the chance you won't need spark, so your call. just try a bit. all the remaning spells (out of the 5 IA-able ones) have to be manually casted, since a mage need all of them. Regen at the start of the quest, then simply spam Smite. Arcane Focus only when you trigger a channelling.
if you want to do some quick tests while also gaining a profit, go with SG arenas.
try also to play with and without imperil to check what you prefer. eventually, it has to be casted at the start of every round.
IS there a way to cast Smite spell without clicking it every time from the spell slot ? Like it will be casted when hovering over monsters ?
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Jun 18 2017, 23:12
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sickentide
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 18 2017, 23:00)  Yep, that's the one.
all right, thanks now i just need to know which icon is used for the energized effect
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Jun 18 2017, 23:14
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 23:04)  IS there a way to cast Smite spell without clicking it every time from the spell slot ? Like it will be casted when hovering over monsters ?
yep. put it in spell rotation in reloader, hoverplay, mousemelee or whatever you use QUOTE(sickentide @ Jun 18 2017, 23:12)  now i just need to know which icon is used for the energized effect
where does it ocme from?
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Jun 18 2017, 23:19
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 23:14)  where does it ocme from?
i have never used an energy drink myself but presumably it adds this effect when you use it in battle
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Jun 18 2017, 23:22
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xcaliber9999
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 19 2017, 02:44)  yep. put it in spell rotation in reloader, hoverplay, mousemelee or whatever you use where does it ocme from?
I am using reloader and crackling cast can you kindly show me how to do it seen I don't know anything about script thanks
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Jun 18 2017, 23:27
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jun 18 2017, 23:19)  i have never used an energy drink myself but presumably it adds this effect when you use it in battle
oh, ok. hmm... in case someone uses one, may i also have the tooltip? QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 23:22)  I am using reloader and crackling cast can you kindly show me how to do it seen I don't know anything about script
try with this. in reloader i see this section, at the beginning of the script: CODE defaultAction: 0, // Change the default action to a T1 spell // | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | // | No Change | Fiery Blast | Freeze | Shockblast | Gale | Smite | Corruption | set defaultAction to 5. if it doesn't work, it's because i have an old version and/or cracklingcast interferees with it. no clue (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jun 18 2017, 23:50
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xcaliber9999
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 19 2017, 02:57)  oh, ok. hmm... in case someone uses one, may i also have the tooltip? try with this. in reloader i see this section, at the beginning of the script: CODE defaultAction: 0, // Change the default action to a T1 spell // | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | // | No Change | Fiery Blast | Freeze | Shockblast | Gale | Smite | Corruption | set defaultAction to 5. if it doesn't work, it's because i have an old version and/or cracklingcast interferees with it. no clue (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Thanks a ton man its working nicely. One last thing how long will I have to grind before considering upgrading gear ? lvl 200, 300, 400 ? Also some spells like Banish, paradise and soul fire are not showing up in offensive spell area even though I assigned them in ability slots why ? Will they show up later ?
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Jun 18 2017, 23:55
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sickentide
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 23:50)  Also some spells like Banish, paradise and soul fire are not showing up in offensive spell area even though I assigned them in ability slots why ? Will they show up later ?
soul fire is a secondary effect that occurs automatically when using spells, and as for the spells themselves, you probably don't have the proficiency to use them, see the Prof column on https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells for when they unlock
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Jun 19 2017, 00:03
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Cleavs
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which is the reason because i previously told him not to bother with them yet. he just started, so why wasting APs in Better Paradise now? fill all the other abilities for now. as for gears, well... as soon as you find something interesting? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 19 2017, 00:34
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 19:49)  ^ disclaimer: this guy plays with ether theft proc. i don't suggest to do so to a beginner. especially since at low difficulty mobs will die quite quickly.
No I don't, stop badmouthing me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I only use ether theft in SGs arenas and when I'm missing some depr prof. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 19:49)  and personally i suggest also silence. not sure if magnet is useful Silence is useless (mages want to end the round the fastest they can, debuffing is not a good idea normally), magnet can be useful in SG arenas since it prevents resist. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 19:49)  not sure which spike to pick, maybe Elec? Cold or fire. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 18 2017, 19:49)  don't bother with soul fire, especially at the start Pretty bad suggestion, soul fire is quite good, and since it only costs ability points (which literally cost nothing) it's a no brainer. QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Jun 18 2017, 21:35)  heck I don't even know whether the robe is a good purchase or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The equip is good, the price... not so much. Also don't use base reloader for spell casting, you should probably just go with vanilla reloader + Crackling Cast even if it's harder to setup. Probably a not very optimized setup for holy mages should look more or less like: CODE use_reloader : true, // set to true if you're using a Reloader hover_area : 1, // 0:none, 1:mob box, 2:mob icon, 3:mob name, 4:mob status; inspired by sssss2 stopWhenChanneling : 1, // Stop when less than or equal to channeling buff expire turn (if < 0, disable) checkOnlyExpire : true, // set to true, if you want to check only expiring buff. expireTurn: false, // if set to true, expire turn prefer 0 to 1 preferAvatarGod : false, // prefer avatar and god to others useScrollOfLife: false, // if set to true, prefer Scroll of Life to cast Spark of Life or IA when Cloak of the Fallen without Spark of Life innateArcana: ['Haste', 'Protection', 'Spirit Shield', 'Shadow Veil', 'Spark of Life'], spells : { // Pay Attention to typos. Is case-sensitive hover : ['Paradise Lost', 'Banishment', 'Smite'], // List of Hover spells num : ['Imperil'], // List to cast when number key is pressed (if set to [], disable number key spells) right : ['Orbital Friendship Cannon', 'Vital Strike', 'Shield Bash'] // List to cast when right click on monster pane (hover_area set to neither 0 nor 1) } (rest as default)
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Jun 19 2017, 00:46
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  No I don't, stop badmouthing me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) uh, ok, sorry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  I only use ether theft in SGs arenas and when I'm missing some depr prof.
uh, ok, sorry... yeah right! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  Silence is useless (mages want to end the round the fastest they can, debuffing is not a good idea normally), magnet can be useful in SG arenas since it prevents resist.
so, mages want to end the round as soon as possible. alright. but why should they bother cast drain (and eventually going to the trouble of being sure the targeted mob will remain alive long enough then? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  Pretty bad suggestion, soul fire is quite good, and since it only costs ability points (which literally cost nothing) it's a no brainer.
QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  Cold or fire.
uh, ok. good. but why not elec, if i may ask? QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 19 2017, 00:34)  The equip is good, the price... not so much.
agree.
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Jun 19 2017, 01:53
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friggo
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Jun 19 2017, 00:12)  all right, thanks
now i just need to know which icon is used for the energized effect
 Second from the right, between heartseeker and mana draught (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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