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post Jun 13 2017, 18:56
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:42) *

not nice..

isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:42) *

no idea what all that is, Im just too fast lol..... its just a simple visual error from the script, its just a random encounter, which I can finish so fast that it cant keep up maybe? in a real fight my t/s is 3,8

oh, alright. then it's all fine. REs aren't so trustworthy for this kind of things. for example according to REs, i shouldn't have trouble reaching 2 t/s or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:42) *

here's what Im using.. just 3 scripts [imgur.com] http://imgur.com/ylmdRBS

nothing fishy, afaik. probably there may be some trouble if you used both reloader and mousemelee at once, but with that setup... btw, she's not ai, is she?
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post Jun 13 2017, 19:07
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just a random beauty in a kimono, found while doing important researches
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post Jun 13 2017, 20:05
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So at what level should you be playing IWBTH or PFUDOR, cause my untalented ass can barely put a dent on these difficulties at 200+
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post Jun 13 2017, 20:12
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QUOTE(Look A Moth @ Jun 13 2017, 20:05) *

So at what level should you be playing IWBTH or PFUDOR, cause my untalented ass can barely put a dent on these difficulties at 200+

You should play them, exactly when you can survive them. With lvl 227 i am not really suprised, that you cant survive them at the moment.
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post Jun 13 2017, 21:47
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 13 2017, 20:12) *

You should play them, exactly when you can survive them. With lvl 227 i am not really suprised, that you cant survive them at the moment.


Well that's slightly. reassuring.
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post Jun 13 2017, 21:58
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QUOTE(Look A Moth @ Jun 13 2017, 21:47) *

Well that's slightly. reassuring.

Why? I mean you still has to level up to even play the eternal darkness and of course the dance. That alone should tell you, that it is okay dont be able to play at pfudor at your level. I mean it is really hard to estimate when a player, i dont know, will be able to play on pfudor or iwbth. Lets just say i would be quite surprised if you wouldnt be playing pfudor at level 350. Any more accurate statement depends on your equipment and how much you forge it and also on the IW of your equipment. I cant know how your equipment will be look like in the future, so i just cant be more precise.
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post Jun 13 2017, 23:36
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 13 2017, 18:14) *

I use good leathers and have high evade.

That way you add the damage you have removed from the staff thanks to STR and DEX from leather.
Still makes little sense to me, a 0 STR persona with clothes does so little damage that switching + using draughts + switching back and needing to replenish magic seems a very convuluted way to get the same result.

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:42) *

no idea what all that is, Im just too fast lol..... its just a simple visual error from the script, its just a random encounter, which I can finish so fast that it cant keep up maybe? in a real fight my t/s is 3,8

I pointed out nearly an year ago that t/s from reloader is crap for short battles since the time is floored to seconds.
The [github.com] fix is also available since that time if anyone wants to get the correct t/s.
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post Jun 13 2017, 23:40
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 13 2017, 23:36) *

The [github.com] fix is also available since that time if anyone wants to get the correct t/s.

only two lines? such an elegant fix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 14 2017, 00:03
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 13 2017, 23:40) *

only two lines? such an elegant fix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Actually a good fix should have been 4 lines and without an additional variable, but I'm lazy and it's not in the combat loop so who cares.
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post Jun 14 2017, 00:25
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 14 2017, 00:03) *

Actually a good fix should have been 4 lines and without an additional variable, but I'm lazy and it's not in the combat loop so who cares.

for a float? lol. the times in which 32 bytes worth of memory matter have long past gone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 14 2017, 16:57
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Depends on how do you want to play:
- without imperil
- with imperil


I'm guessing that "with imperil" is a cheaper alternative, so I'm going with that. That means 4+1 or 3+2? And there is some recommendation on which piece(s) should be cotton?

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Try to get 1.0 prof factor for the first case, 0.8 for the second.


The wiki says 0.68... The wiki is out of date or it's just an initial value to aim and then go to 0.8/1.0?

And how can I calculate it? consider monster level = my level?

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Thinking Cap is completely useless.
And you may want the following perks:
- Innate Arcana III
- Effluent Ether
- Innate Arcana IV
- Death and Decay (if you're going with Dark)
- Dæmon Duality
- Evil Enchantress (if you're going to imperil)

(they should be more or less in order of importance)


Got IA III. Thanks.
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post Jun 14 2017, 17:24
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QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jun 14 2017, 16:57) *

I'm guessing that "with imperil" is a cheaper alternative, so I'm going with that. That means 4+1 or 3+2? And there is some recommendation on which piece(s) should be cotton?

Doesn't really change much cost-wise (it won't be cheap either way).
Depends on how you want to play.

QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jun 14 2017, 16:57) *
The wiki says 0.68... The wiki is out of date or it's just an initial value to aim and then go to 0.8/1.0?

0.68 is for elemental mage, dark/holy need higher prof-factor to compensate for weaker imperil.
You don't need to reach the best prof-factor immediately, consider it a goal.
Same should be true when deciding the slots.

QUOTE(Jack Tekila @ Jun 14 2017, 16:57) *
And how can I calculate it? consider monster level = my level?

(your dark prof - your level) / 2
Consider that base prof, when maxed, is your level or your level X 1.1 (if you get the perk).
So what you should consider is how much prof does your staff + your eventual cottons gave you in addition to the base one.
Example (note, you will see different values from the equipment since they will be scaled to your level)
my base prof: 528 (480 * 1.1 from holy perk)
prof from staff: 124.83
prof from gloves: 144.39
prof from pants: 166.55
Total: 963.77
prof factor: ~1.01 which is optimal for no imperil play

You need to do similar considerations and choose the best slots (and since you are neither low level or swimming in credits there's little value in pursuing perfect combinations).
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post Jun 14 2017, 17:34
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 14 2017, 17:24) *

0.68 is for elemental mage, dark/holy need higher prof-factor to compensate for weaker imperil.

should we add it to wiki?
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post Jun 14 2017, 17:37
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my Character states is here for the experts examination

a little bit complicated couse i playing silly free-style (for fun) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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usually i play arena @ x2 or x4 with niten / two-hand / fire / wind

but last 5 Arena i switch to holy mage with my scaring Heimdall set





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post Jun 14 2017, 17:50
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jun 14 2017, 17:37) *

my Character states is here for the experts examination

a little bit complicated couse i playing silly free-style (for fun) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image

usually i play arena @ x2 or x4 with niten / two-hand / fire / wind

but last 5 Arena i switch to holy mage with my scaring Heimdall set

less STR and probably a bit more END on that mage persona.
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post Jun 14 2017, 17:58
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And at least a single level of Quartermaster wouldnt hurt.
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post Jun 14 2017, 18:00
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little bit hard to copy Equipment link and edit

i use One-Handed (void) to play IW @ x6 and i feel One-Handed is much powerful than other style (in my experience )

Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Balance
Legendary Reinforced Kite Shield of Dampening
Exquisite Power Helmet of Warding
Magnificent Zircon Power Gauntlets of Protection
Exquisite Cobalt Power Leggings of Slaughter
Magnificent Cobalt Power Boots of Warding
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post Jun 14 2017, 18:18
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no bra? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 14 2017, 18:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 14 2017, 18:18) *

no bra? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

What size?
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post Jun 14 2017, 18:34
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jun 14 2017, 17:37) *

my Character states is here for the experts examination

a little bit complicated couse i playing silly free-style (for fun) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image

usually i play arena @ x2 or x4 with niten / two-hand / fire / wind

but last 5 Arena i switch to holy mage with my scaring Heimdall set

QUOTE(manga522 @ Jun 14 2017, 18:00) *

little bit hard to copy Equipment link and edit

i use One-Handed (void) to play IW @ x6 and i feel One-Handed is much powerful than other style (in my experience )

Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Balance
Legendary Reinforced Kite Shield of Dampening
Exquisite Power Helmet of Warding
Magnificent Zircon Power Gauntlets of Protection
Exquisite Cobalt Power Leggings of Slaughter
Magnificent Cobalt Power Boots of Warding

Grab a decent Force Shield (base block >37) and forge it to 15 or 20, aim for ~55% to 60% Block at your current level. That should already allow you to handle IWBTH or even PFUDOR difficulty. Also, to speed things up, grab a Slaughter Rapier - you don't need the Accuracy from Balance suffix anyway (you're at ~220% Hit Chance).
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