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Jun 13 2017, 14:25
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 13 2017, 13:18)  i never understood this method, tbh. why not simply picking a crappy one at this point?
This. I actually use my normal staff and I need 10 minutes to clear like 6-7 IWBTH rounds. If I equip a crap fair staff I would probably need 500+ turns/rounds, which is already quite close to the limit when monsters start hitting harder. It seems pretty annoying to go to 0 condition and have to flee every time (while I can just hover for unlimited time while watching youtube).
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Jun 13 2017, 15:31
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AnonDarkMage7
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 925
Joined: 1-June 12

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Should I get IA4? Currently have IA3 w/ haste, SS and SoL, I'm a dark mage and normally buff with protection, shadow viel as well.
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Jun 13 2017, 15:32
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Greshnik
Group: Members
Posts: 669
Joined: 13-January 15

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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 13 2017, 18:52)  5 Fatality, 4 Butcher is the best you could possible get.
BTW question marks are no group-living animals.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 13 2017, 18:57)  right. as a guideline, aim for as much Butcher and Fatality as you can. but in case your rapier isn't an endgame one, don't bother too much with reforging - just go for the IW10 strike and take whatever comes. if you're tight on budget, you can consider something like 7/8 good potencies out of 9 a big success.
hmm... so there is no priority whichever Butcher or Fatality first??? for now I'm still using this Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter which took about 4 days to get Hollowforged... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I was thinking about what potency should I request if I use the IW service when i got the replacement... got some rapier in sight for replacement but still waiting for the seller's response... QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 13 2017, 18:52)  BTW question marks are no group-living animals.
but won't they feel lonely then??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jun 13 2017, 15:40
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 13 2017, 15:32)  so there is no priority whichever Butcher or Fatality first???
Why should it matter which one cames first? QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 13 2017, 15:32)  but won't they feel lonely then??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) They are harder then they look. I mean they are no sissy exclamation marks.
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Jun 13 2017, 15:44
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 13 2017, 15:32)  so there is no priority whichever Butcher or Fatality first???
not for mere mortals like you and me. actually there woouldn't be even for the other ones, but still... QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 13 2017, 15:32)  I was thinking about what potency should I request if I use the IW service when i got the replacement... got some rapier in sight for replacement but still waiting for the seller's response...
go with either Butcher 5 or Fatality 5. Overpower, with 0 Swift. or 1/2 Swift tolerated if But+Fat = 7. something like this. if you want a reference, these are my rapiers: DW set Rapier1H set Rapierthe first one was self-achieved. the second one costed something like 200k at an IW service, iirc. i wasn't in the mood to spend a train of credits for such a low improvement, even if the rapier was worth it. but at my point it would be only bragging rights, so... QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 13 2017, 15:32)  but won't they feel lonely then??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) i doubt they have such a degree of self-conscience This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jun 13 2017, 15:46
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Jun 13 2017, 16:16
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Greshnik
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hoo... I thought there's some recommendation whetever Butcher or Fatality which need 5 potency for 1H... so there's no big difference between them whichever got 5 potency... thank you for your advice...(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jun 13 2017, 16:17
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edu5ardo
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What is the maximum t / s that can be reached? Now I have 3.8 t / s
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Jun 13 2017, 16:33
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(edu5ardo @ Jun 13 2017, 16:17)  What is the maximum t / s that can be reached? Now I have 3.8 t / s
hardcapped at 4, afaik.
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Jun 13 2017, 16:34
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 9-October 14

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QUOTE(edu5ardo @ Jun 13 2017, 17:17)  What is the maximum t / s that can be reached? Now I have 3.8 t / s
Hardcap is 4, I believe. The rest depends on your connection. I get 2.6-7 on public wifi, and 3.5-6 at home on a fairly average line. EDIT: ninja'd (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) This post has been edited by friggo: Jun 13 2017, 16:35
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Jun 13 2017, 17:18
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ALL_MIGHT
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,548
Joined: 14-October 16

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If staff has wind attack but the spell damage bonus of electric is more . which attack would be better? 
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Jun 13 2017, 17:27
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jun 13 2017, 17:18)  If staff has wind attack but the spell damage bonus of electric is more . which attack would be better?  seems to me you're playing like a rainbow mage...
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Jun 13 2017, 17:47
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11

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QUOTE(edu5ardo @ Jun 13 2017, 16:17)  What is the maximum t / s that can be reached? Now I have 3.8 t / s
5,0 in a random encounter happens quite often for me
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Jun 13 2017, 18:01
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:47)  5,0 in a random encounter happens quite often for me
This shouldn't be possible. From the wiki: QUOTE Turns happen almost immediately server-side but may take few milliseconds user-side. To prevent botting and overloads there is a server side restriction which prevents more than 4 turns per second (t/s). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jun 13 2017, 18:01
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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Yeah, not fair. You use your magic mod powers to edit your posts without any traces. Witchcraft. Hisssss. Burn the witch. Burn her.
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Jun 13 2017, 18:14
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,522
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 13 2017, 14:25)  This. I actually use my normal staff and I need 10 minutes to clear like 6-7 IWBTH rounds. If I equip a crap fair staff I would probably need 500+ turns/rounds, which is already quite close to the limit when monsters start hitting harder. It seems pretty annoying to go to 0 condition and have to flee every time (while I can just hover for unlimited time while watching youtube).
Actually it balances out fine with the crappy broken staff strategy. Also 10 minutes. But only 3 or 4 rounds played. No cure, only draughts. Almost no cure - if you get 4 monsters in round 4, you may have to cure once or twice. I use good leathers and have high evade. Never make it to 1000 turns, normally a round of 2 takes about 500, 3 takes about 700. And if they get strong near 1000 turns, I use spirit stance or imperil and they die quickly. I prefer this strategy. Less rounds is less chance of riddlemaster, which means less chance of missing one because of distraction of youtube.
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Jun 13 2017, 18:26
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jun 13 2017, 18:22)  my random encounters are always above 4,0
my question is still there. if we're speaking about double counter script it's only a trivial problem. if we're speaking about double action script, it may be a ban-able violation
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Jun 13 2017, 18:42
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 13 2017, 18:26)  my question is still there. if we're speaking about double counter script it's only a trivial problem. if we're speaking about double action script, it may be a ban-able violation
not nice.. no idea what all that is, Im just too fast lol..... its just a simple visual error from the script, its just a random encounter, which I can finish so fast that it cant keep up maybe? in a real fight my t/s is 3,8 here's what Im using.. just 3 scripts [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/ylmdRBS
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