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post Jun 4 2017, 15:16
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:10) *

Shadow veil, while playing 1H? I second the rest of your post, but the veil? Nope. Replace veil with SoL (because PFUDORfest) and i agree.

on later rounds and only manually casted, i guess. when survivability counts more than optimization.
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post Jun 4 2017, 15:24
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 4 2017, 15:16) *

on later rounds and only manually casted, i guess. when survivability counts more than optimization.

So you are talking about survivability and ignore that every evade monster is a monster that is guaranteed not to be stunned?
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post Jun 4 2017, 15:26
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:24) *

So you are talking about survivability and ignore that every evade monster is a monster that is guaranteed not to be stunned?

they say that in later rounds you need even shadow veil to be sure to bring home the result. complain about this with 1Hers who play PFfest, not with me. i'm merely referring what i read (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jun 4 2017, 15:36
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 4 2017, 15:26) *

they say that in later rounds you need even shadow veil to be sure to bring home the result. complain about this with 1Hers who play PFfest, not with me. i'm merely referring what i read (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I believe SoL could be handy, thats why i even mentioned it. But veil? I doubt this. Also i doubt that playing a PFUDORfest with just 8.3K ABD will make much fun. This will take a while.
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post Jun 4 2017, 16:11
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:36) *

I believe SoL could be handy, thats why i even mentioned it.

SoL should be one of the first choices. especially if you're playing very difficult quests. in all the other cases, sages say it doesn't affect mana balance too much so no reason to remove it. i agree on the former thing, a bit less on the latter, but still player's choice...

QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:36) *

Also i doubt that playing a PFUDORfest with just 8.3K ABD will make much fun. This will take a while.

indeed. but he asked for that and already took into account to replace armors, so...
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post Jun 4 2017, 16:24
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You do know that PFfests sucks in income per hour spent, unless you have crystal V and token 1-2 ? Yes you get an occasional legendary, but that means a couple of millions every few months. Most legendary is unsellable or cheap. You did know? Okay then knock yourself out. I do 1 per day on average, takes me 1hr15 min.
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post Jun 4 2017, 16:29
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 4 2017, 16:24) *

You do know that PFfests sucks in income per hour spent, unless you have crystal V and token 1-2 ? Yes you get an occasional legendary, but that means a couple of millions every few months. Most legendary is unsellable or cheap.

which is what i asked before:
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 4 2017, 11:41) *

speaking of which, is it really worth to run a PFfest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 4 2017, 16:35
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With perks, yes. Without them imo, no.
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post Jun 4 2017, 16:44
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 16:35) *

With perks, yes. Without them imo, no.

And even with, IWBTHFEST is slightly better in income per hour spent. For most played that I know of including myself of course.
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:00
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 4 2017, 16:44) *

And even with, IWBTHFEST is slightly better in income per hour spent. For most played that I know of including myself of course.


I would also think that IWBTH provided better income than Pfudor once you have upgraded everything high enough
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:00
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 4 2017, 16:44) *

And even with, IWBTHFEST is slightly better in income per hour spent. For most played that I know of including myself of course.

But a PFUDORfest gives you something IWBTHfest cant. The feeling that you have beaten the hardest challenge HV has to offer atm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I know that means nothing to someone who beat this "challenge" in nearly an hour. But i still remember how proud i was after my first Hellfest.
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:04
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a P one would bring me somewhere in between 66.7~67

Probably something around 67 or 67.1 at your level

P-0.06 gives me 67.4 at my current level
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:10
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 17:00) *

But a PFUDORfest gives you something IWBTHfest cant. The feeling that you have beaten the hardest challenge HV has to offer atm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I know that means nothing to someone who beat this "challenge" in nearly an hour. But i still remember how proud i was after my first Hellfest.

It's so true. Iwbthfest is a bit boring, no chance of dying , no alarms and no surprises... profitable, but boring. Like dating a banker.
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:20
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:10) *

Shadow veil, while playing 1H? I second the rest of your post, but the veil? Nope. Replace veil with SoL (because PFUDORfest) and i agree.

If someone participates in the forum, is over level 400 and plays PFUDORFest without SoL the problem is not the equipment.
When I give my suggestions to high-level people that have been around since months I skip the obvious parts.
Also since he said the attacks were eating 80% of health and 50% of spirit I'm pretty sure he had SoL and spirit shield on.

QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 15:24) *

So you are talking about survivability and ignore that every evade monster is a monster that is guaranteed not to be stunned?

Yeah, and an evaded attack is an attack that doesn't land (0% chance of being hit).
Evading is bad for speed but stills helps in survivability.

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 4 2017, 16:44) *

And even with, IWBTHFEST is slightly better in income per hour spent. For most played that I know of including myself of course.

For high-level 1H players PFUDOR is probably better (problem is mage being 2X better).
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post Jun 4 2017, 17:36
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SidZBear wants to reach level 500.

PFUDORFest is highly valued for players wishing to level up quickly.

For example,
I can level up at my level in a day.

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post Jun 4 2017, 18:14
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Jun 4 2017, 17:36) *

SidZBear wants to reach level 500.

PFUDORFest is highly valued for players wishing to level up quickly.

For example,
I can level up at my level in a day.

if he really wants, then arenas have higher EXP multiplier: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battle#Battle_Modes
and they are also quite safer.
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post Jun 4 2017, 19:22
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I remember seeing a popup which show item drops at the end of grindfest/arena...
could someone give me the link to the script???
I thought it was this track drops but it doesn't show the popup at the end of arena...
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post Jun 4 2017, 19:31
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QUOTE(Greshnik @ Jun 4 2017, 10:22) *

I remember seeing a popup which show item drops at the end of grindfest/arena...
could someone give me the link to the script???
I thought it was this track drops but it doesn't show the popup at the end of arena...


The other one is HV - Track Drops in Battle

Edit: You can run them both. I have Track drops loading before Track Drops in Battle. No concerns.

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post Jun 4 2017, 20:56
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 4 2017, 09:20) *

For high-level 1H players PFUDOR is probably better (problem is mage being 2X better).


i love melee styles like 2h,1h, and dual wield so i have managed to not gather any mage gear aside from drops. Seeing people post their clear times at almost double the speed at all difficulties makes it hard to resist the temptation though.
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post Jun 5 2017, 00:40
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 4 2017, 05:57) *

Not really, try to restrict forging to Parry and Block for now, get some more jugg and try to replace your boots (2 PAB mag slaughter are not good enough).
If you do that and then soulfuse you should already be able to clear PFUDORFest (with haste and shadow veil).



I always play with Shadow Veil... took haste of my IA when i started getting serious about 1H ^.^


QUOTE(Stulpen @ Jun 4 2017, 07:35) *

With perks, yes. Without them imo, no.


I have Crys4 and Token2



QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 4 2017, 09:14) *

if he really wants, then arenas have higher EXP multiplier: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battle#Battle_Modes
and they are also quite safer.


I do most of my arenas, at the least the 1.1-2.0 arenas. I dun care for the ones with tons of SG, takes way too long and the monster count is rather low compared to round count...

QUOTE(jackalo @ Jun 4 2017, 11:56) *

i love melee styles like 2h,1h, and dual wield so i have managed to not gather any mage gear aside from drops. Seeing people post their clear times at almost double the speed at all difficulties makes it hard to resist the temptation though.


This. I quit maging and swapped to 1H around level 160. I was using elemental explosions and having difficulties clearing hell-arenas.

Now I'm somewhat wiser. I have a HUGE interest in non-imperil Holy mage, but... credits... several tens of millions of credits... >.<

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