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Nov 21 2011, 03:21
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Zip
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So I'm level 61 and have 4 trophies.
When should I trade them in?
My current gear is level 150+ and it seems the shrine might only give me gear level 61.
Should I just be saving them up or is there a chance to get void/etheral or kevlar stuff from the shrine?
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Nov 21 2011, 06:44
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roadgray
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QUOTE(Zip @ Nov 21 2011, 02:21)  So I'm level 61 and have 4 trophies.
When should I trade them in?
My current gear is level 150+ and it seems the shrine might only give me gear level 61.
Should I just be saving them up or is there a chance to get void/etheral or kevlar stuff from the shrine?
Even if you got something nice from the shrine now, the low level would keep you from selling it for much and item world leveling is too tedious for most stuff. I say save them until you're at a higher level. I saved all my trophies until I was around level 200.
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Nov 21 2011, 07:48
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smilejb
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I say use it now. I know I'm only a couple of levels higher than you, but the way I see it, trophies aren't that hard to get. You'll get more as you progress so why not get a little something that will help you progress now? I mean, all the ring of blood challenges will give you a trophy, and you could always revisit them. (not really recomended unless its fsm). And the arena's too. I believe endgame and beyond all have legendary's in them. and if your thinking about using them around the 200 lvls, well by 220 you are fighting 52 legendary's for that arena. And don't forget about the random encounters durring hourlys, grindfest, crysfest, and maybe item world? actually I'm not really too sure of any of those but grindfest really, but I see no reason for them not to pop up. The only viable reasons I could see for keeping them is to use them all at the same time to get a nice set of whatever you want and have them all at the same level (just for aesthetics anyway), or to have them stockpiled for when you sell them. (the latter I think about everytime I go to the shrine). Edit: Arena battles just so you can see it for yourself. I'm not liking the orange in there, too much like red. But it appears I was wrong about endgame, its not legendary, just rare. AND one more thing. I'm not sure if you're sure on how long you will be playing this game. I myself leave every now and then but come back. But on the off chance that you do go before you reach 200, then why not just use what you have? This post has been edited by smilejb: Nov 21 2011, 08:10
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Nov 21 2011, 12:11
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n125
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I would only consider saving trophies from Gods, especially Noodly Appendages. Similarly, I recommend saving all of your Tokens of Blood for FSM. Turning in trophies from Rares and Legendaries gives you another source of Credits, which could be more helpful to you at the present time. It's true that holding on to all of your trophies will reward you with higher level equipment that sells for more at the Bazaar, but by the time you reach that point you probably won't be strapped for Credits, and out of hundreds of Rare and Legendary trophies, you might only get a handful of good pieces.
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Nov 21 2011, 18:50
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Slobber
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Most trophy "drops" will head straight to the bazaar. But there is the occasional nice piece that drops once in a while. Given that probability, I'd wait until a higher level (so that when a nice piece does drop, it's high level as well). When you're low level you can buy a lot of the stuff you need from other players (I did this when I was a low level).
Because the truth of the matter is, there is very rarely *ever* a piece that is worth leveling.
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Nov 21 2011, 22:49
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smilejb
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Nov 21 2011, 09:50)  Most trophy "drops" will head straight to the bazaar.
Because the truth of the matter is, there is very rarely *ever* a piece that is worth leveling.
This is really true. I've spent all my trophies and haven't recieved anything worth keeping yet. But as n125 says QUOTE Turning in trophies from Rares and Legendaries gives you another source of Credits, which could be more helpful to you at the present time. It's true that holding on to all of your trophies will reward you with higher level equipment that sells for more at the Bazaar, but by the time you reach that point you probably won't be strapped for Credits So if you are going to save, just save the god's ones. Otherwise, you can get any of the others quite easily enough. Plus the credits you can you can use towards training which can really help you more now than later. Also, by the time you are level 200ish, these people might still be on and level 400-500ish making your stuff look like noob gear anyway. I mean, how long are you really willing to wait? oh, just thought of something, you can wait for another patch before you do that. This way any equipment you might actually want to keep isn't nerfed.
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Nov 21 2011, 22:57
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Nov 21 2011, 12:49)  Also, by the time you are level 200ish, these people might still be on and level 400-500ish
Very doubtful.
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Nov 21 2011, 23:46
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smilejb
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wow, that is a ridiculous amount of exp just to go up one level. Now this is just all up in the air but I think it shouldn't take more than a couple of days to get there. I figure that the monsters will be stronger leaving you with more exp. Than you should have all the skills you need to do harder difficulties, which also mean more exp. Than of course there is all the credits you can spend at the trainer for exp and the ap for the exp too.
And from what I've read, they are also using hath to get that exp up there too. But I need some actual numbers to be calculating all this. I wonder whats the max experience modifier you can have.
Just looked at it, excluding all the ones you have to pay for (including hath which I know can be earned or bought with credits), you can get a 661%bonus to experience. And then with level difficulty, it can be multiplied by 25, and the type of arena can further multiply it. But like I said, need some actual numbers to see how long it would take to go up a level.
edit: I actually don't think its entirely plausible that some one will go on iwbth for the hardest of the arena levels just for the exp. (more like for bragging rights). but still that would take too long and take too many potions. So I guess I'd have to find a middle with my numbers for plausibility.
This post has been edited by smilejb: Nov 21 2011, 23:52
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Nov 22 2011, 03:05
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DSpooky
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what can I do to increase chances of getting chaos tokens?
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Nov 22 2011, 03:08
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Slobber
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make sure you clear arenas. arenas have token bonuses for finishing them sometimes
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Nov 22 2011, 03:12
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Ballistic9
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Level up, more arena clears = more token drops.
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Nov 22 2011, 10:39
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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Ding 250. I assume Auras will not be upgraded anymore?
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Nov 22 2011, 11:44
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Bunker Buster
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nope, but to max out your auras you need level 350
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Nov 22 2011, 13:12
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Nov 22 2011, 11:44)  nope, but to max out your auras you need level 350
I mean Lvl5 auras are maxed or they can be upgraded to Lvl6 some day?
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Nov 22 2011, 14:23
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Evil Scorpio
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Nov 22 2011, 15:12)  I mean Lvl5 auras are maxed or they can be upgraded to Lvl6 some day?
Better ask Rainboro about that. He's not very chatty about his plans usually, but maybe if you'll use your girly charm - he'll tell you)) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 23 2011, 00:12
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Nov 22 2011, 14:23)  Better ask Rainboro about that. He's not very chatty about his plans usually, but maybe if you'll use your girly charm - he'll tell you)) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) My charm pretty much covers eviscerating one's guts and smoking them on a campfire, so I dont think it'll be any different. Unless! someone provides me with his home address~ :3 <3
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Nov 23 2011, 03:55
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eovcoo5
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3 11 Wretched Egg crits you for 1997 crushing damage. 3 10 Your spirit shield absorbs 194 points of damage from the attack into 2.02 points of spirit damage.
1 13 Liselotte Werckmeister crits you for 1997 slashing damage. 1 12 Your spirit shield absorbs 168 points of damage from the attack into 1.75 points of spirit damage.need help i am a tiny mage player have a question about spirit shield i got almost killed by these Power class monsters every turn when i play a litter higher Difficulty setting the shield only absorbs 194 points (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) if possible i wish to know how to make the spirit shield absorbs more damage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Nov 23 2011, 04:03
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Ballistic9
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You can't. Have Spark up as backup. And put more AP into spirit tanks.
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Nov 23 2011, 04:24
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eovcoo5
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ Nov 23 2011, 10:03)  You can't. Have Spark up as backup. And put more AP into spirit tanks.
oh no (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) thank you help me so i understand the spirit shield is not design for protect player from the monsters normal attack only effective in rescue player from deadly strike of SP attack or Skills if i wish find a path with survive from Egg and Lise's crits damage my only way is do more damage and rise AGI / END
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Nov 23 2011, 05:06
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(teeeen @ Nov 22 2011, 18:24)  so i understand the spirit shield is not design for protect player from the monsters normal attack
only effective in rescue player from deadly strike of SP attack or Skills
Uhhh, no. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/spells#Supportive_Magic
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