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May 13 2017, 17:16
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Maximum_Carnage
Group: Gold Star Club
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Hi guys, quick question: what is more efficient way of spending chaos tokens - unlocking more slots or upgrading scavenger on existing ones?
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May 13 2017, 17:23
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Maximum_Carnage @ May 13 2017, 17:16)  Hi guys, quick question: what is more efficient way of spending chaos tokens - unlocking more slots or upgrading scavenger on existing ones?
New monsters, in most cases. Unless you have fed lots of crystals already
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May 13 2017, 17:25
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sickentide
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 17:07)  • Is Capacitor not worth the trouble to get alongside Juggernaut?
mana recovery is calculated from your base mana and your mana pool won't take any burst damage like health does, so i wouldn't say it's worth it
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May 13 2017, 17:26
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Orion-Guardian
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QUOTE(Maximum_Carnage @ May 13 2017, 17:16)  Hi guys, quick question: what is more efficient way of spending chaos tokens - unlocking more slots or upgrading scavenger on existing ones?
I'd say it depends on the number of Monsters and the cost to unlock. The first level of scavenger is 5% chance for double gifts, so it is 1/20th of a monster (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 13 2017, 17:27
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 17:07)  A couple questions about IW on mage gear -
• On an LSWD, is Penetrator Lv. 5 and Spellweaver Lv. 4 considered optimal? If it matters, I'll probably be playing PFUDOR arena to start, but would switch to IWBTH GF when the time is right. • Is Capacitor not worth the trouble to get alongside Juggernaut?
Pen5 is essential. Spell 4 makes GF IWBTH much easier Capacitor sucks, just for showing-off purposes
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May 13 2017, 17:44
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Maximum_Carnage
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 792
Joined: 27-October 09

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 13 2017, 17:23)  New monsters, in most cases. Unless you have fed lots of crystals already
QUOTE(Orion-Guardian @ May 13 2017, 17:26)  I'd say it depends on the number of Monsters and the cost to unlock. The first level of scavenger is 5% chance for double gifts, so it is 1/20th of a monster (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks, so it appears that for now unlocking new slots is better.
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May 13 2017, 18:50
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Kinights
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 988
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 12:07)  A couple questions about IW on mage gear -
• On an LSWD, is Penetrator Lv. 5 and Spellweaver Lv. 4 considered optimal? If it matters, I'll probably be playing PFUDOR arena to start, but would switch to IWBTH GF when the time is right. • Is Capacitor not worth the trouble to get alongside Juggernaut? I think pots and regens care about base MP.
Penetrator is mostly needed so imperil isn't resisted. It's still the best option even if playing non-imperil, as less monsters will resist spells and your damage won't be reduced. Spellweaver might not be much necessary in arenas, where damage is fixed, but if your goal is IWBTH GFs, then 5/4 is the best option, along with charged proficiency cloth. ----------------- I remember Superlatanium saying that capacitor helps a bit in saving resources if you also use mana elixirs, but it's an investment on the same level of Repair Bear 3~4, where it will take years, if not decades to repay itself. I'd consider spending money aiming for 25/25 only if I was already catgirl status, with all perks and full Peerless equipment, considering how much you would spend trying to get 5/5 on every piece.
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May 13 2017, 19:56
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ikki.
Group: Gold Star Club
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I'm sure that I'm not the only idiot who pressed Flee instead of Scan. What about some alert?
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May 13 2017, 19:58
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,313
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ May 13 2017, 19:56)  I'm sure that I'm not the only idiot who pressed Flee instead of Scan. What about some alert?
feel free to slot scan in quickbar, if it can help.
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May 13 2017, 20:15
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Kinights
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ May 13 2017, 14:56)  I'm sure that I'm not the only idiot who pressed Flee instead of Scan. What about some alert?
Use HV Confirmer. I got it mainly for not using an energy drink by mistake, but it's also useful to not hit flee by mistake. Also, other than slotting scan on your quickbar like Scremaz said, there can be plugins and scripts that can help you. I use HVStat, and it has an option to show a scan button near the monster's box.
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May 13 2017, 21:27
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dairyman20111889
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Thanks for the answers so far, guys.
The target is x0.68 spell element proficiency. How much base stat is this equivalent to? I'd like to add up the elemental proficiency base stats on my equipment when I'm planning out my set, if this is valid.
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May 13 2017, 21:41
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 21:27)  Thanks for the answers so far, guys.
The target is x0.68 spell element proficiency. How much base stat is this equivalent to? I'd like to add up the elemental proficiency base stats on my equipment when I'm planning out my set, if this is valid.
1.68x your level. therefore 709
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May 13 2017, 21:50
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dairyman20111889
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2017, 13:41)  1.68x your level. therefore 709 I knew my question was a bit poorly worded, but that's the scaled/displayed stat, right? What is 1.68x, in terms of equipment base stats? That way I don't have to worry about level scaling when looking at level 500 equipment.
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May 13 2017, 21:55
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 21:50)  I knew my question was a bit poorly worded, but that's the scaled/displayed stat, right? What is 1.68x, in terms of equipment base stats? That way I don't have to worry about level scaling when looking at level 500 equipment.
ah. no, probably i was only dumb as usual (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) i remember it was said a few pages ago, but you'd better wait for other experts.
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May 13 2017, 22:20
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 21:27)  The target is x0.68 spell element proficiency. How much base stat is this equivalent to? I'd like to add up the elemental proficiency base stats on my equipment when I'm planning out my set, if this is valid.
Around 14.5 base prof.
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May 13 2017, 22:51
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dairyman20111889
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Alright, I have some math and planning to do.
Do you guys think there's a noticeable difference between Penetrator Lv. 5/Spellweaver Lv. 4 and 4/5?
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May 13 2017, 23:00
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ May 13 2017, 22:51)  Alright, I have some math and planning to do.
Do you guys think there's a noticeable difference between Penetrator Lv. 5/Spellweaver Lv. 4 and 4/5?
probably yes, if you do high difficulty quests like PF-GF and such or if you use a Redwood. if you only do arenas and especially if you have a Oak/Willow i think that going for whatever of those two combos may be good enough. PS: if you reach it with one shard only, i'd also keep something like Pen5/Spel3/whatever. just saying.
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May 13 2017, 23:14
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2017, 23:00)  probably yes, if you do high difficulty quests like PF-GF and such or if you use a Redwood. if you only do arenas and especially if you have a Oak/Willow i think that going for whatever of those two combos may be good enough.
Since it's not multiplicative it's equally good even for Oak/Willow. 5pen is 20% reduction in resist in both cases (which is huge). pen5 vs pen4 is around 1.1% less imperil resisted and ~1.2% more damage during attack phase. It's pretty damn good. Spellweaver is good for reducing the incoming damage, but nowhere near as good as penetrator, I would honestly take Penetrator 5 + Spellweaver 3 + Annihilator/Archmage 1 over Penetrator 4.
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May 13 2017, 23:25
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,313
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 13 2017, 23:14)  Since it's not multiplicative it's equally good even for Oak/Willow. 5pen is 20% reduction in resist in both cases (which is huge).
pen5 vs pen4 is around 1.1% less imperil resisted and ~1.2% more damage during attack phase. It's pretty damn good. Spellweaver is good for reducing the incoming damage, but nowhere near as good as penetrator, I would honestly take Penetrator 5 + Spellweaver 3 + Annihilator/Archmage 1 over Penetrator 4.
and how would (in case of oak/willow) archmage5/whatever else qualify for someone doing only arenas? and penetrator5/archmage4 for katalox/redwood?
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May 13 2017, 23:33
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 13 2017, 23:25)  and how would (in case of oak/willow) archmage5/whatever else qualify for someone doing only arenas? and penetrator5/archmage4 for katalox/redwood?
For arenas only depends on element and level. High level elemental mages probably don't even need more casting speed for arenas. Lowish level holy/dark depends a lot on spellweaver. It depends on the frequency of the cures.
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