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post May 5 2017, 11:51
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QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 11:43) *

Why is my Mage so weak?

essentially because of level, i guess. plus, maybe because of playstyle?

since you're a returning player, a few things changed meanwhile. for example, if you were used to rainbow maging (basically, casting a spell and waiting until the proc connects to exploit it with explosions and such), that has been completely overwhelmed by imperil and proficiency. therefore, you don't need to have many elements, but you should focus on one (in your case, judging by your profs i may end up thinking that you have a mix of holy and other armors, which are hindering your holy edb).
also, opening monster lab to anyone brought to the introduction of many powerful mobs in the average pool.

could you show us your gears, please?

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post May 5 2017, 12:05
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All my ability points are basically put into Divine and Forbidden. And yeah, I try to alter between those 2 for damage.

I find myself running out of mana 10 rounds in and I die by the 20th.

I have a Superior Katalox Staff of Destruction with +11 Holy/+13 Dark damage and +448% Magic Damage, but I can't use it because there's no Mana Conservation bonus. I try to level it up in the Item World, but again, I keep dying.
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post May 5 2017, 12:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 5 2017, 11:40) *

yes. definitely.
because if boosted in the proper way (that means, with Spirit Stance and Heartseeker on, possibly even Overwhelming Strikes if you play as 1H) it can go as far as clearing one round out of two or three by itself.
out of all the melee styles, 1H has the best way to use it since it can basically generate OC while always remaining in Spirit Stance, but the same applies for DW, 2H and whatnot. only things that changes is how frequently you can cast the skill.

so generally I should cast it whenever I'm fully buffed?

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post May 5 2017, 12:17
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uhu. a 1st-gen Redwood and only a prof piece, uh? no wonders you have so much trouble.

i'm not that big of a mage expert and i need to go AFK, so while you're waiting for some other experts you may want to take a look here and here.

the core of the question is that you'll need to switch to one (and only one!) element and most likely to recent gears, since there was a patch that revamped all rolls. not that difficult, since all your gears are wrong to begin with (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

also, when posting gears you may want to do it this way: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_Popups

QUOTE(as013 @ May 5 2017, 12:08) *

so generally I should cast it whenever I'm fully buffed?

well, it has a relatively long cooldown (50 turns, which may mean 2 or 3 turns), so you'd better cast it at the start of a round.
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post May 5 2017, 12:25
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well, it has a relatively long cooldown (50 turns, which may mean 2 or 3 turns), so you'd better cast it at the start of a round.


So gotta take as many monsters as possible in 1 blast. Thanks! Time to grab 21 figurines.
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post May 5 2017, 12:27
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Hm, okay, I see.

So instead of casting Holy/Dark spells, I should just stick to casting only Holy or Dark?

If so, then what should my skill set be? I basically only use Haste/Dark Veil/Cure/Protection/Arcane Focus/Spark of Life as my non-offensive spells.

And what do you mean by "roll revamp"? How would I go about to hunting down Phase equipment with Heimdall suffix?

Thanks a lot to anyone who can help me stop dying.
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post May 5 2017, 12:49
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QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 12:27) *

Hm, okay, I see.

So instead of casting Holy/Dark spells, I should just stick to casting only Holy or Dark?

If so, then what should my skill set be? I basically only use Haste/Dark Veil/Cure/Protection/Arcane Focus/Spark of Life as my non-offensive spells.

And what do you mean by "roll revamp"? How would I go about to hunting down Phase equipment with Heimdall suffix?

Thanks a lot to anyone who can help me stop dying.


You will find a lot of helpful info on the wiki advice and wiki advice advanced.

My tips:
- get gear at WTS section of forum
- sell old stuff to collectors (Scremaz?)
- don't play mage until level 350. Mage need imperil spell at max upgrade. That is possible at level 310. Then build up proficiency, and then play mage.
- instead go Rapier + Force shield+ heavy power armours

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post May 5 2017, 12:56
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 5 2017, 12:49) *

You will find a lot of helpful info on the wiki advice and wiki advice advanced.

My tips:
- get gear at WTS section of forum
- sell old stuff to collectors (Scremaz?)
- don't play mage until level 350. Mage need imperil spell at max upgrade. That is possible at level 310. Then build up proficiency, and then play mage.
- instead go Rapier + Force shield+ heavy power armours

The wiki gives a very basic view of which skills I should have. What would you recommend me having at this level? I don't play too much, so I think it will take me too long to grind my other proficiency back up and switch builds.
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post May 5 2017, 13:15
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i don't understand how to calculate scraps needed

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scraps needed = 1 + rounddown((100-0.01)/10) = 1 + 9 = 10 ???

and what benefit will you get when your force upgrade level increase?

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post May 5 2017, 14:21
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QUOTE(as013 @ May 5 2017, 12:25) *

So gotta take as many monsters as possible in 1 blast. Thanks!

yep. that's the meaning. you can also cast it against tanky mobs like SGs and such, but you'd better stack Imperil and PA on them in that case. its effect will most likely to inflict a lot of damage though.

QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 12:27) *

1. So instead of casting Holy/Dark spells, I should just stick to casting only Holy or Dark?

2. If so, then what should my skill set be? I basically only use Haste/Dark Veil/Cure/Protection/Arcane Focus/Spark of Life as my non-offensive spells.

3. And what do you mean by "roll revamp"? How would I go about to hunting down Phase equipment with Heimdall suffix?

1. or whatever other element of your choice. but basically yep. to give you a small example, that's my Holy mage build. basically a bunch of less-than-optimal pieces, but at least enough to do Hell arenas when needed:
[0] IW10 Hallowed Staff Arc4 Eco4 (don't mind the IW too much, i was interested only in Archmage)
[0] Legendary Zircon Phase Cap of Heimdall
[401] Magnificent Charged Phase Robe of Heimdall
[0] Magnificent Onyx Phase Gloves of Heimdall
[0] Magnificent Charged Phase Pants of Heimdall
[387] Magnificent Phase Shoes of Heimdall

2. and spirit shield later on. sadly, a mage needs a whole lot of supportive spells. they say it's quite worth it though.

3. a couple of patches ago, admin made a tweak to roll generation mech. or something like that. as consequence, all the items generated after that patch (roughly with EID > 67M) are somehow stronger than the correspective items generated before. in particular, now prefix implies that all stats are within a certain range: if you drop a Legendary, its rolls won't be S-tier anymore. in exchange, items will drop with a level assigned, so you won't be able to use all of them - for how fancy they may be.
most affected by this change were ADB on non-slaughter weapons/armors and other complementary things like PABs.

QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 12:56) *

The wiki gives a very basic view of which skills I should have. What would you recommend me having at this level? I don't play too much, so I think it will take me too long to grind my other proficiency back up and switch builds.

my suggestion for you is to assemble a set of Mag/Leg items with 50k-worth leftovers from auctions, but since your funds are limited they *have* to be close to your level. even if they are considered almost worthless, they will be a huge boost if compared to your current build.
since your profs aren't too far from each other, feel free to pick the element which will make your overall expense the lowest possible. the staff will be a consequence of the element you pick though - not the other way around.

but again, i'm not so specialized in maging. pick what i said only as a very little oversight while you wait for other experts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

another option may be to go mindless melee (1H in particular), but you'll have to re-farm prof and ability tree

QUOTE(1412_kid @ May 5 2017, 13:15) *

and what benefit will you get when your force upgrade level increase?

you'll be able to upgrade your items further. nothing more. therefore, it's almost useless if you don't plan to forge past lv25 or so.
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post May 5 2017, 14:26
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QUOTE(1412_kid @ May 5 2017, 13:15) *

and what benefit will you get when your force upgrade level increase?


I will just quote the wiki on that topic.

Most upgrades are limited to 25 levels, except for physical and magical damage which go up to 50 levels.
This upgrade cap can be increased by Forge Level up to double (50 and 100 levels respectively).
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post May 5 2017, 14:43
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Thanks for the help! I'll start collecting more Credits and start getting better equipment.
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post May 5 2017, 14:47
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QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 14:43) *

Thanks for the help! I'll start collecting more Credits and start getting better equipment.

also, check if there's anything useful here or in other free shops: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=163637
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post May 5 2017, 17:42
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QUOTE(Kippers @ May 5 2017, 07:27) *

Hm, okay, I see.

So instead of casting Holy/Dark spells, I should just stick to casting only Holy or Dark?

If so, then what should my skill set be? I basically only use Haste/Dark Veil/Cure/Protection/Arcane Focus/Spark of Life as my non-offensive spells.

And what do you mean by "roll revamp"? How would I go about to hunting down Phase equipment with Heimdall suffix?

Thanks a lot to anyone who can help me stop dying.

If you aren't using it yet, also use the Regeneration Supportive Spell, as it gives passive health regeneration, and you can use it along with health draughts.

You should probably take a good look all over the wiki as well.

If you go all the way down the page, you can find the HentaiVerse Navigation, so try checking all pages to relearn some forgotten things and learn new added information as well.
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post May 5 2017, 18:40
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Hello, auctions will have something like this:

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (437, ADB 55%, Parry 66%)

How do I calculate these percentages for my equipment?
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post May 5 2017, 18:51
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want to ask those who are expert at playing mage style.
how do you distribute ur stat point? do you follow the advice on the HV advice advance? or do you have your own formula?
can u 1 hit K.O SG on A dance with dragon PFUDOR mode? if so what style (dark, holy or elemental)?
which one do you prefer... radiant or charged?
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post May 5 2017, 18:58
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To calculate percentages, hover over the stat you want to measure. Then go to https://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment_ranges and find the relevant prefixes, suffixes and quality. Minus the base stat (the one you get from the hovering at the start) from the min stat on the wiki page and divide this value by the (max-min) value, then multiply by 100 %. If this is confusing, it's probably because I'm bad at explaining.

TL;DR https://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment_ranges,
[(min-base) / (max-min)] x 100%
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post May 5 2017, 19:08
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actually it's (base - min).

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post May 5 2017, 19:08
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ May 6 2017, 02:58) *

To calculate percentages, hover over the stat you want to measure. Then go to https://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment_ranges and find the relevant prefixes, suffixes and quality. Minus the base stat (the one you get from the hovering at the start) from the min stat on the wiki page and divide this value by the (max-min) value, then multiply by 100 %. If this is confusing, it's probably because I'm bad at explaining.

TL;DR https://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment_ranges,
[(min-base) / (max-min)] x 100%


Understood perfectly, cheers.
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post May 5 2017, 19:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 6 2017, 01:08) *

actually it's (base - min).


Oop, yeah, you're right. Sorry bout that!
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