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post May 1 2017, 23:52
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QUOTE(Kinights @ May 1 2017, 23:26) *

You could also get a program to set custom keyboard keys, and set 5 in place of 3 and 8 in place of 4, so you can just press 2, 3 and 4 and be as lazy as you can be.

The idea is nice but there are drawbacks, if monsters 2 and 4 resisted you can't imperil on 3 to get both.
You would need to keep two ways of casting imperil, which is again not optimal.
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post May 2 2017, 00:10
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my advice was assuming roadshoe plays an non-imperil style with right hand only. in which case he just needs to use imperil on the monsters with significant health. there is no doubt 2,5,8 is superior regarding clear times but he's already mentioned how important the soda is.

if i were playing a non imperil style with a soda in my left hand i'd just imperil the SG's etc and then hover to clear.

@scremaz ikr? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) altho it's been a while so i just barely remembered her name. haven't really heard any models cause a storm like gemma and keeley for a while now tbh
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post May 2 2017, 00:14
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QUOTE(Slobber @ May 2 2017, 00:10) *

@scremaz ikr? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) altho it's been a while so i just barely remembered her name. haven't really heard any models cause a storm like gemma and keeley for a while now tbh

uhu, gemma... another cutie of a certain level. too bad bosoms are fake, but in that case one can bear with it with certain tricks (btw, there's a photo of hers too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

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post May 2 2017, 00:20
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QUOTE(teenyman45 @ May 1 2017, 07:16) *

First, see what the free shops can offer you because you definitely need gear to be a mage.

Second, as most of your gear is way too far below your current level, how many soul fragments do you have? Since fragments come free with random encounters, once you get have any gear you plan to use for even a modest length of time but don't care about reselling, soul fuse it.

I have exactly 263 Soul Fragments.Need more for my staff first.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 1 2017, 12:42) *

sounds strange. we suggest that way because we recieved feedbacks of it working quite good, especially for newbies who need to get accostumed to the game. what was your usual gameplay, if you remember it?
heaven-sent would be fine as well, since it will still boost your Holy build.
take it with a grain of salt, but in your case i think that even Earth-walker may be of any help at least as a temporary item, since it will at least improve all your supportive spells and reduce their mana cost. you may consider it as sort of third choice (and pretty damn cheap, btw). just saying.

I can't really remember.
Heaven-sent boosts my Divine profiency, not my Divine damage.Plus,the name is disgusting.
Earth-walker could work,BUT ONLY AS A TEMPORARY EQUIPMENT
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post May 2 2017, 00:46
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Are there any recommended areas to focus on for equipment?

I'm mainly trying to run with 2H + Leather Armour, with a focus on physical mitigation, but I don't know if I'm getting the best bang for my buck.

Here's my equipment setup right now:

Exquisite Tempestuous Mace of the Vampire
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6062968fff

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1fb5e4f5cf
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d1670592d9
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1a3046cede
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=39e62a4945


I also have a Lvl 90 Legendary Shocking Longsword of the Illithid that's 42 levels below me that I'm thinking of soulbinding, but I'm not sure about that.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8b8a12a0fb

This equipment gets me up to 49.9% physical mitigation
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post May 2 2017, 01:10
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QUOTE(KainBrain @ May 1 2017, 19:46) *

Are there any recommended areas to focus on for equipment?

I'm mainly trying to run with 2H + Leather Armour, with a focus on physical mitigation, but I don't know if I'm getting the best bang for my buck.

Here's my equipment setup right now:

Exquisite Tempestuous Mace of the Vampire
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6062968fff

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1fb5e4f5cf
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d1670592d9
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1a3046cede
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=39e62a4945
I also have a Lvl 90 Legendary Shocking Longsword of the Illithid that's 42 levels below me that I'm thinking of soulbinding, but I'm not sure about that.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8b8a12a0fb

This equipment gets me up to 49.9% physical mitigation

Both the mace and the longsword have the worst possible suffixes.

Your best bet would either be looking for a 2H weapon with slaughter suffix, preferably another mace or an estoc, or getting a rapier and shield and start getting 1H proficiency to change to heavy armor when you get to level 200 and Spirit Shield becomes available.

Changing to 1H+shield+leather might be nice as you can change to higher difficulties and get more EXP while being quite tanky, even with a slower clearspeed.
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post May 2 2017, 01:58
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 1 2017, 14:52) *

The idea is nice but there are drawbacks, if monsters 2 and 4 resisted you can't imperil on 3 to get both.
You would need to keep two ways of casting imperil, which is again not optimal.



QUOTE(Slobber @ May 1 2017, 15:10) *

my advice was assuming roadshoe plays an non-imperil style with right hand only. in which case he just needs to use imperil on the monsters with significant health. there is no doubt 2,5,8 is superior regarding clear times but he's already mentioned how important the soda is.



I think here in a few minutes at dawn, I'm going to try the right click on the SGs only.
I usually just land on the SGs anyway and kill the rest indirectly.

My concern now is I've reset my abilities and now don't have the mastery points to open the imperil abilities back open.
It seems to work, it'll just be some seriously weak imperil. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I appreciate the info from all. Thank you!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 2 2017, 02:30
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QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 00:20) *

Heaven-sent boosts my Divine profiency, not my Divine damage.Plus,the name is disgusting.

sadly, prof has a positive effect on offensive spells too. that's a pity, uh? damn...

QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 00:20) *

Earth-walker could work,BUT ONLY AS A TEMPORARY EQUIPMENT

in fact, if you note i wrote "as a third choice". this should give you a hint of how temporary it should be... consider it the step immediately above going naked.

QUOTE(Kinights @ May 2 2017, 01:10) *

Both the mace and the longsword have the worst possible suffixes.

that's not the problem here. or better, not the biggest one. given how pitiful are the average mobs at his level, even those suffixes could work, but those two weapons are obsolete (check their EIDs) - which means their stats in general and their ADB in particular is lower than what today's correspectives could offer. given this, he may definitely consider to switch to 1H + leather sooner than lv200 or so. or find a decent 2H weapon (obsolete is fine if it's Slaughter suffixed) to buy the time needed to find a rapier and a shield.
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post May 2 2017, 03:54
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ May 2 2017, 05:00) *
If you improve, then that's the best thing you can give me.

I would cry right now if it is not for the fact that we are discussing a game on a porn site (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


QUOTE(Kinights @ May 2 2017, 05:26) *
Power and Shade are the best kind of heavy and light armor you can get, as "common" leather doesn't offer much benefits over the rare tiers on higher levels.

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For power, the best suffixes would be slaughter, then protection and balance.

Best prefix would be savage, and mithril only decent if the player's burden is over 70, where it would start affecting their crit rate.

For shade, best suffix would be shadowdancer then fleet.

Best prefix would be savage and then agile.

For power and shade, other suffixes than the ones listed aren't really bad as long as the additional damage isn't low, but they are pretty much on the tier of "use while there's nothing better to slot".

If the item has a good prefix and suffix, then the price will raise by a lot as long as it's rolls are good.

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For cloth, as long as it's phase with all PABs, it can be worth something, but for common cloth, any suffix other than demon-fiend, heaven-sent or elementalist is considered worthless.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 2 2017, 05:41) *
it depends for what. shade is the kind of light armors that boosts ADB and (given also the absence of BUR) improves your Evade. plus a few other things, like eventually boosting crit chance/damage etc etc.
in exchange, mitigations are a bit lower - especially towards piercing, which is quite spread.
it's surely a good choice around... hmm... lv300 or so? especially if in conjunction with DW style. but at your level, with stats that didn't scale too much yet, i'd suggest you to stick with Leather armors. Protection suffix if possible.

Why haven't they write this in the wiki? Makes life much easier for newbs like me.


QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 2 2017, 05:41) *
just a note. if you do it that way (not that it's bad, at times i do it as well) you'll basically spend 3 turns in which your ass will be prey of those bad mobs. therefore you may want to wait until it's safe to do it - ie when only one mob remains.

I tried Spirit Stance, and if I consume Spirit Draught, my Spirit won't drain that much. The only thing that I need to do is simply turn it off when my OC is low, and then it on back.
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post May 2 2017, 04:50
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I would cry right now if it is not for the fact that we are discussing a game on a porn site (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This goes in the comment hall of fame. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 2 2017, 06:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 1 2017, 16:14) *

uhu, gemma... another cutie of a certain level. too bad bosoms are fake, but in that case one can bear with it with certain tricks (btw, there's a photo of hers too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )


if it's light/no makeup i think shay laren takes the cake.
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post May 2 2017, 06:27
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Huh, I didn't expect there to be problems with the equipment age or suffixes. I kind of assumed that all the suffixes were supposed to be balanced with one another for the game.

In the meantime, I've got this Superior Flaming Longsword of Slaughter. It's the only elemental prefixed two-hander I have that isn't the other two ones, and the fact that it's level 134 suggests that I got it recently.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2e61c5975f

What I was mostly trying to get advice on before was about what kind of armour bonuses I should be getting.

I've got better one-handed proficiency, and my heavy armour proficiency isn't that far behind the light armour prof., so I guess I'll switch to that for now.

I just started one of the long-ish arena fights, so I can't grab my one-handed equipment sets for now.
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post May 2 2017, 06:44
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QUOTE(KainBrain @ May 2 2017, 01:27) *

Huh, I didn't expect there to be problems with the equipment age or suffixes. I kind of assumed that all the suffixes were supposed to be balanced with one another for the game.

In the meantime, I've got this Superior Flaming Longsword of Slaughter. It's the only elemental prefixed two-hander I have that isn't the other two ones, and the fact that it's level 134 suggests that I got it recently.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2e61c5975f

What I was mostly trying to get advice on before was about what kind of armour bonuses I should be getting.

I've got better one-handed proficiency, and my heavy armour proficiency isn't that far behind the light armour prof., so I guess I'll switch to that for now.

I just started one of the long-ish arena fights, so I can't grab my one-handed equipment sets for now.

Compared to the legendary longsword, it will have lower attack if it's soulfused, but it would be better to save your soul fragments for later when you get decent prefixed/suffixed gear, so just use the superior one for now.

As for armor, at your level just try to get upgrades in at least the tier, so from average to superior, then exquisite and so on.

It would be preferable to aim for protection suffixed pieces, but as it's hard to even get tier upgrades at low level, you might be satisfied if you find pieces with just all PABs, no matter prefix/suffix, until more gear starts to become available as you level up.

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post May 2 2017, 08:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 2 2017, 03:30) *

sadly, prof has a positive effect on offensive spells too. that's a pity, uh? damn...
in fact, if you note i wrote "as a third choice". this should give you a hint of how temporary it should be... consider it the step immediately above going naked.

1- Yes, it does increase my damage, but it is not as useful as other profiencies like Deprecating and Supportive, since the only things it does is reduce cost and increase damage. And still, the name is disgusting.
2- Even finding Earth-walker items are hard. Besides, Earth-walker sounds like something that would boost Earth profiency or something.
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post May 2 2017, 10:10
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QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 08:41) *

1- Yes, it does increase my damage, but it is not as useful as other profiencies like Deprecating and Supportive, since the only things it does is reduce cost and increase damage. And still, the name is disgusting.
2- Even finding Earth-walker items are hard. Besides, Earth-walker sounds like something that would boost Earth profiency or something.

Wait but all deprecating and supportive do is decrease cost, heaven sent decreases cost AND increases damage, which in turn further decreases average cost spent per mob since they die faster. Earth walker should be much easier to find...at least in the bazaar since it's considered a trash suffix.

Also you shouldn't care so much about cosmetics (in this case gear name) as long as the item does what you need it to do, but that's my opinion.
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post May 2 2017, 10:18
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Wait but all deprecating and supportive do is decrease cost, heaven sent decreases cost AND increases damage, which in turn further decreases average cost spent per mob since they die faster. Earth walker should be much easier to find...at least in the bazaar since it's considered a trash suffix.

Also you shouldn't care so much about cosmetics (in this case gear name) as long as the item does what you need it to do, but that's my opinion.

I'm gonna care about cosmetics, thank you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do have a question, though. Does the spike shield give me mitigation if I just equip it in abilities, or do I need to have the Protection effect on me for the mitigation to effect me?

Also, I'm currently farming credits right now, so if anyone sends me anything with CoD attached, that's gonna wait.
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post May 2 2017, 10:33
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QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 10:18)

I do have a question, though. Does the spike shield give me mitigation if I just equip it in abilities, or do I need to have the Protection effect on me for the mitigation to effect me?

Spike shield is an addon of protection spell, so protection spell is required for spike to work.
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Spike shield is an addon of protection spell, so protection spell is required for spike to work.

Guess I'm gonna wait until I cannot upgrade anything anymore to see my lowest elemental mitigation.
Or should I go for the "choose the element that it's debuff helps you the most" way?
Because I know for a fact that you cannot expect Spike Shield to be your damage dealer, since it is extremely weak anyway. It is more of a debuffer.

And I'm starting to hate this Donald Trump pet monster. I mean, that pet really pisses me off, because it acts like a PFUDOR enemy in ANY difficulty, dealing massive damage, taking alot of hits, all that kind of stuff. I feel like I'm being trolled by the game itself when I get him on my Normal difficulty credit rush runs.

Also, any fast way to boost the profiency of the weapon I hold? It is in Magneficent quality, so Item World has 69 waves, and it only gives 30 points,which is around 2%-3% of the profiency I need(?)

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QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 10:53) *

And I'm starting to hate this Donald Trump pet monster.

sir jenga, where art thou? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)

QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 10:53) *

Also, any fast way to boost the profiency of the weapon I hold? It is in Magneficent quality, so Item World has 69 waves, and it only gives 30 points,which is around 2%-3% of the profiency I need(?)

no. you have to use it, and use and use. it will eventually catch your level sooner or later.

QUOTE(Epicskunk @ May 2 2017, 10:53) *

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https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Bugs_%26_Errors#Combat

most likely you already killed the mob and your spike shield was casted on that very same mob. just ignore it.
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post May 2 2017, 12:26
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I feel ..binding of protection improves only a few physical mitigations

Do you think I should upgrade something else first? (In a poor situation)
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