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post May 1 2017, 20:01
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ May 1 2017, 03:17) *



How to reduce MP cost for casting spells (with the exception of using AP)?


Spirit Stance is your friend here, especially in arenas.

1. Wait for Protection/SOL/Regen (mostly Regen if you have AE2) to get low.
2. Turn Spirit Stance ON
3. Cast spell.
4. Turn Spirit stance OFF (or run for a while with it on, then turn off to regenerate).

Cuts MP costs by 25%. Note that WIS controls the size of MP pools, and your MP pools will get bigger and your play easier once you reach the later 100s.

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just consider what yiou'd use the imperil for. i'd imagine FSM/SG/etc
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post May 1 2017, 20:10
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2017, 10:58) *

If you don't use Imperil, and you play holy, then you don't need Holy Imperil. That is, I guess, most likely, useful when you play, let's say, Holy, and then, you know, play maybe Imperil? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Little things... you know.. like playing imperil. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OK.. check this out. Probably the wrong thread... maybe not.

I got a wild hair, and decided to build my elemental prof up. I was at like.. 17 prof.
And.. using a PAOH, why not? Freeze a few tykes...

so I blew some soul shards, reset my abilities, and see what I could do to run both Holy and Elemental.

Now at 17 prof, I can only use freeze, but I set it up, to see what I could do along with all 3 tiers of Holy.

Check this out... it was faster. I'm not kidding.
I don't know if it was my original setup on abilities were hosed, or what the deal is, but I knocked out 200 rounds of HF in a little over 8 minutes. I usually run about 10 minutes for 200.
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post May 1 2017, 20:19
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QUOTE(Slobber @ May 1 2017, 11:01) *

just consider what yiou'd use the imperil for. i'd imagine FSM/SG/etc


I've never used imperil. Never have.

Imperil is set up in Reloader, but my left hand has a soda in it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm going to try this new set up in DwD at the Dawn. I clear all arenas at Dawn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 1 2017, 20:26
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right click?
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post May 1 2017, 20:41
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ May 1 2017, 15:10) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Little things... you know.. like playing imperil. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OK.. check this out. Probably the wrong thread... maybe not.

I got a wild hair, and decided to build my elemental prof up. I was at like.. 17 prof.
And.. using a PAOH, why not? Freeze a few tykes...

so I blew some soul shards, reset my abilities, and see what I could do to run both Holy and Elemental.

Now at 17 prof, I can only use freeze, but I set it up, to see what I could do along with all 3 tiers of Holy.

Check this out... it was faster. I'm not kidding.
I don't know if it was my original setup on abilities were hosed, or what the deal is, but I knocked out 200 rounds of HF in a little over 8 minutes. I usually run about 10 minutes for 200.

The Better Imperil ability raises the total mitigation reduction for elements up to 40%, while dark/holy imperil can only reach up to 25%.

If you aren't using an ideal build with enough proficiency factor, you might feel a great difference when using imperil.
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post May 1 2017, 20:56
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QUOTE(Slobber @ May 1 2017, 11:26) *

right click?


I ran back into a GF to check the right click.
I have the number area of the monster as the "click" area, with the rest of the box hover.

I right click in the right area, and poof... all monsters dead, so I don't know.

I'll switch to PF to slow things down.
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post May 1 2017, 21:17
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QUOTE(Kinights @ May 1 2017, 11:41) *

The Better Imperil ability raises the total mitigation reduction for elements up to 40%, while dark/holy imperil can only reach up to 25%.

If you aren't using an ideal build with enough proficiency factor, you might feel a great difference when using imperil.


I just tried it in a PF using right click. Meh.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Of course, I just redid my abilities where I eliminated everything to do with imperil, so it was far from optimized.
And since my time improved, I don't feel up to redoing them again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Imperil seems kind of a pain, and time consuming to set up. I may be doing it wrong.

I am astronomically far away from an ideal holy build.
It could be that the HatH perks are compensating... and making imperil too much of an effort. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)



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post May 1 2017, 21:30
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QUOTE(Kinights @ May 2 2017, 01:10) *
The best place for that is the Price Check Thread.

Also, as a quick explanation, usually only magnificent+ equipment sells well, but considering your low level, as long as an equipment has all PABs and is prefixed and suffixed, even common leather and heavy might sell.

Will do that later. Btw, what are the good/great/whatever-you-call-it prefixes and suffixes of the equipments? For example, I heard that "Shade" is quite good.


QUOTE(dmyers59 @ May 2 2017, 02:01) *
Spirit Stance is your friend here, especially in arenas.

1. Wait for Protection/SOL/Regen (mostly Regen if you have AE2) to get low.
2. Turn Spirit Stance ON
3. Cast spell.
4. Turn Spirit stance OFF (or run for a while with it on, then turn off to regenerate).

Cuts MP costs by 25%. Note that WIS controls the size of MP pools, and your MP pools will get bigger and your play easier once you reach the later 100s.

You get a cookie, sir. Or do you prefer a kiss? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post May 1 2017, 21:31
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ May 1 2017, 20:10) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Little things... you know.. like playing imperil. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OK.. check this out. Probably the wrong thread... maybe not.

I got a wild hair, and decided to build my elemental prof up. I was at like.. 17 prof.
And.. using a PAOH, why not? Freeze a few tykes...

so I blew some soul shards, reset my abilities, and see what I could do to run both Holy and Elemental.

Now at 17 prof, I can only use freeze, but I set it up, to see what I could do along with all 3 tiers of Holy.

Check this out... it was faster. I'm not kidding.
I don't know if it was my original setup on abilities were hosed, or what the deal is, but I knocked out 200 rounds of HF in a little over 8 minutes. I usually run about 10 minutes for 200.



QUOTE(RoadShoe @ May 1 2017, 21:17) *

I just tried it in a PF using right click. Meh.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Of course, I just redid my abilities where I eliminated everything to do with imperil, so it was far from optimized.
And since my time improved, I don't feel up to redoing them again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Imperil seems kind of a pain, and time consuming to set up. I may be doing it wrong.

I am astronomically far away from an ideal holy build.
It could be that the HatH perks are compensating... and making imperil too much of an effort. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)



Cold Holy mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Next thing you know, we'll be wielding Peerless Hallowed Redwood of Niflheim

Imperil is just something that takes some getting used to. I can press 2,5,8 without looking. You could try imperil in the mean time until your holy mage build is up to par.
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post May 1 2017, 21:50
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2017, 12:31) *

Cold Holy mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Next thing you know, we'll be wielding Peerless Hallowed Redwood of Niflheim

Imperil is just something that takes some getting used to. I can press 2,5,8 without looking.


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2,5,8

Besides the obvious of pressing number keys, what does that mean?

Teach me old wise one!!
How doeth one imperil into the realm of imperil with the efficiency of imperialism? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post May 1 2017, 21:56
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ May 1 2017, 21:50) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

2,5,8

Besides the obvious of pressing number keys, what does that mean?

Teach me old wise one!!
How doeth one imperil into the realm of imperil with the efficiency of imperialism? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Imperialism 101:

i. Get Crackling Cast.
ii. Put Imperil on num-keys
iii. Stretch left hand: pinkie on 2, middle finger on 5, index finger on 8. Thumb on Spacebar. Can't reach? Stretch some more. Hand yoga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
iv. hover T3,T2,T1 spell. Cold prefably. Other may work too. But Cold is more... Cool.
v. Press pinkie, middle finger, thumb (on space) to cure, index finger, move mouse. Repeat 1000 rounds of PFfest.
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post May 1 2017, 22:07
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possible. check it every now and then.
it's only 5 levels. you may already start to think how to spend them.
use the "+quote" button in all the posts you want to multi-tag, then press "reply".
just don't leave a (quote) tag empty because it leads to errors when someone else wants to quote you.
feel free. and here too, btw: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry3356136


I just uploaded an avatar and completed some of my profile. thanks for sharing that page lol

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post May 1 2017, 22:19
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keeley hazell? not bad

@roadshoe it shouldn't take long to set up the imperil for the rightclick at all. less than a minute. and you'd be able to enjoy your soda
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post May 1 2017, 23:00
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ May 1 2017, 15:30) *


You get a cookie, sir. Or do you prefer a kiss? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)



If you improve, then that's the best thing you can give me. Other assorted advice, some stolen shamelessly from Slobber.

Try to get a quarter million credits and buy 50 hath. Invest that in the hath perk Innate Arcana 1. Put the spell Spark of Life in that slot. At your point of growth, even Hard can one shot you. This helps eliminate that. It also simplifies mana management.

Train Ability Boost to around 50. Don't do it all today, just do 1 or 2 a day until it is complete.

Your gear is insanely good for your level. I was using Average Gear in the 100s (1h - heavy) and handling Hell pretty straightforwardly.

Learn to use Reloader on arenas. Will boost your levels like taking a shot of EXP steroids. Don't use Reloader on REs.

Levels have a quality all their own. The size of your mana and HP pools matter. The Abilities related to these should always be expanded first, if you have to make choices (you shouldn't have, you should be getting Ability Boost regularly)
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post May 1 2017, 23:10
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QUOTE(Slobber @ May 1 2017, 22:19) *

@roadshoe it shouldn't take long to set up the imperil for the rightclick at all. less than a minute. and you'd be able to enjoy your soda

For full imperil play I would say that right click is not the best way to go, 2-5-8 is, by far, the fastest way to imperil a whole round.

Right click on the other hand shines for SGs arenas when you just need to imperil either 1, 2 or 3 specific targets.
And every mage should use imperil against SGs, bosses, dragons, gods etc etc, even on a no-imperil setup, the difference is simply too big, it's
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post May 1 2017, 23:19
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2017, 12:56) *

Imperialism 101:

i. Get Crackling Cast.
ii. Put Imperil on num-keys
iii. Stretch left hand: pinkie on 2, middle finger on 5, index finger on 8. Thumb on Spacebar. Can't reach? Stretch some more. Hand yoga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
iv. hover T3,T2,T1 spell. Cold prefably. Other may work too. But Cold is more... Cool.
v. Press pinkie, middle finger, thumb (on space) to cure, index finger, move mouse. Repeat 1000 rounds of PFfest.


Ahhh... Oh.. my goodness! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

To give the TMI reply:

My laptop is 4 feet away from my head on a 3 foot stand and to the left to keep from blocking the TV.
Edit: Alienware 18X, so screen barely big enough to see.
I'm in a recliner, and leaned back.
Cordless mouse on table to my right, Drink etc., on table to my left.
I'm watching movies while forgetting to use mana potions until it's too late.
I flick down glasses and click A/B/C on my mouse for the ponies.
Then I flick the glasses back up.

If I were any more comfortable, I'd be in a coma.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) There will be no effort involving finger exercises at this time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But thank you sir for the info!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 1 2017, 23:26
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ May 1 2017, 16:30) *

Will do that later. Btw, what are the good/great/whatever-you-call-it prefixes and suffixes of the equipments? For example, I heard that "Shade" is quite good.

Power and Shade are the best kind of heavy and light armor you can get, as "common" leather doesn't offer much benefits over the rare tiers on higher levels.

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For power, the best suffixes would be slaughter, then protection and balance.

Best prefix would be savage, and mithril only decent if the player's burden is over 70, where it would start affecting their crit rate.

For shade, best suffix would be shadowdancer then fleet.

Best prefix would be savage and then agile.

For power and shade, other suffixes than the ones listed aren't really bad as long as the additional damage isn't low, but they are pretty much on the tier of "use while there's nothing better to slot".

If the item has a good prefix and suffix, then the price will raise by a lot as long as it's rolls are good.

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For cloth, as long as it's phase with all PABs, it can be worth something, but for common cloth, any suffix other than demon-fiend, heaven-sent or elementalist is considered worthless.

Best prefixes would be radiant(phase only) and charged.

QUOTE(RoadShoe @ May 1 2017, 16:50) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

2,5,8

Besides the obvious of pressing number keys, what does that mean?

Teach me old wise one!!
How doeth one imperil into the realm of imperil with the efficiency of imperialism? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2017, 16:56) *

Imperialism 101:

i. Get Crackling Cast.
ii. Put Imperil on num-keys
iii. Stretch left hand: pinkie on 2, middle finger on 5, index finger on 8. Thumb on Spacebar. Can't reach? Stretch some more. Hand yoga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
iv. hover T3,T2,T1 spell. Cold prefably. Other may work too. But Cold is more... Cool.
v. Press pinkie, middle finger, thumb (on space) to cure, index finger, move mouse. Repeat 1000 rounds of PFfest.

You could also get a program to set custom keyboard keys, and set 5 in place of 3 and 8 in place of 4, so you can just press 2, 3 and 4 and be as lazy as you can be.

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post May 1 2017, 23:41
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QUOTE(Noeleo @ May 1 2017, 21:30) *

Will do that later. Btw, what are the good/great/whatever-you-call-it prefixes and suffixes of the equipments? For example, I heard that "Shade" is quite good.

it depends for what. shade is the kind of light armors that boosts ADB and (given also the absence of BUR) improves your Evade. plus a few other things, like eventually boosting crit chance/damage etc etc.
in exchange, mitigations are a bit lower - especially towards piercing, which is quite spread.
it's surely a good choice around... hmm... lv300 or so? especially if in conjunction with DW style. but at your level, with stats that didn't scale too much yet, i'd suggest you to stick with Leather armors. Protection suffix if possible.

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You get a cookie, sir. Or do you prefer a kiss? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

just a note. if you do it that way (not that it's bad, at times i do it as well) you'll basically spend 3 turns in which your ass will be prey of those bad mobs. therefore you may want to wait until it's safe to do it - ie when only one mob remains.

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keeley? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

QUOTE(Slobber @ May 1 2017, 22:19) *

keeley hazell? not bad

you, sir, have quite the good taste.
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post May 1 2017, 23:48
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Sooper silly question...

How do I use OFC? I have 21 different figurines, but I can't find the ability anywhere.


It doesn't appear instantly. In my case, it appeared next morning sometime. Worst case 24 hours.
You'll be able to put it on your bar once it appears. It is also can be found through the spell list.

Once it had it on arenas, I have been playing like this:

1. Charge to 250.
2. Turn on SPIRIT
3. Burn spirit till OFC appears.
4. BOOM.
5. Turn off spirit. Go to 1.

Spirit bar will slowly go down. When Spirit reaches 620 of my 940ish spirit, I burn a draught. I have Spirit Pot at level 2 for now. I was using 700ish when Spirit Pot was 0. YMMV. There may be better ways than this.
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