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I'm actually an imperil ice mage.
Here's my gear:

[Staff] - [Hat] - [Robes] - [Gloves] - [Pants] - [Shoes]

I have spark, spirit shield and shadow veil on IA and I cast protection, regen and manapots.
I do have the elemental prof perk and the regen perk.

no haste?

no haste?

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I completely forgot about that spell!

When I was rolling with 1H power armors, I dropped haste because the high burden negates it, then it carried over to 1H Mage since that style was already extremely beefy and thus the status quo remains until now I guess.

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Apr 30 2017, 12:46

My Stat Screen :


My Problem :
I'm mostly trying to get specific equipment, the ones that will decrease the cost of abilities (Frugal Prefix). How can I get them if I cannot find them in the market, if I cannot find them in the forums, if enemies do not drop them and if relics do not give them?

This post has been edited by Epicskunk: Apr 30 2017, 13:36

Can anyone teach me how to evaluate equipment based on their stats? I saw in some WTS/WTB threads where there are some equipment that have Average grade but sells very high of some sort. How do you know if the equipment stats are better than the other and such?

Edit: Btw, is there any way to copy the link of an equipment together with it's name? It's such a pain to write the name manually...

This post has been edited by Noeleo: Apr 30 2017, 13:39

My Stat Screen :


My Problem :
I'm mostly trying to get specific equipment, the ones that will decrease the cost of abilities (Frugal Prefix). How can I get them if I cannot find them in the market, if I cannot find them in the forums, if enemies do not drop them and if relics do not give them?

it'll be quite hard, i guess. btw, your stat distribution isn't optimal. END and AGI are a bit low and all those points on STR are wasted, afaik. and the maximum you can equip (via soulfuse) is 100 levels above yours. so even if we consider a bit of level up meanwhile, more than level 250 is quite useless for you.

Can anyone teach me how to evaluate equipment based on their stats? I saw in some WTS/WTB threads where there are some equipment that have Average grade but sells very high of some sort. How do you know if the equipment stats are better than the other and such?

Edit: Btw, is there any way to copy the link of an equipment together with it's name? It's such a pain to write the name manually...

you can use Item Manager. or simply doing copy/paste.

as for stats, simply hover them with the mouse and they will show their base values. if base is higher, then the item is better. something like that. with the latest patches, you can be almost sure that higher quality means higher stats as well. for example, a Legendary will be almost always better than a Magnificent. unless the Leg is very crappy and the Mag is outstanding, ofc.

as for costs, uh... you should understand what market wants. btw, which Averages sell very high? can you point an example?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 30 2017, 13:51

it'll be quite hard, i guess. btw, your stat distribution isn't optimal. END and AGI are a bit low and all those points on STR are wasted, afaik.

Yeah, no.

One of the rules of this topic is that I have the choice to not do what is told in the opinion. I won't be editing my stats, since the current stats I have ARE optimal for me.

Though I still do not know how to get the equipment I need. If I don't get them, no amount of optimizing my stats would help me in the future.

Yeah, no.

One of the rules of this topic is that I have the choice to not do what is told in the opinion. I won't be editing my stats, since the current stats I have ARE optimal for me.

Though I still do not know how to get the equipment I need. If I don't get them, no amount of optimizing my stats would help me in the future.

actually the rule is that if you come here asking for advices and show something, you implicitly accept to discuss/be discussed about whatever it's written in those images. then you can follow these suggestions or saying "thank you, but i'm fine as i am now" and deliberately ignore them - without whining if they don't work though. we already passed this stage, iirc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


however, only known methods to earn something in this game are drops, shrining and trading. if these don't work, uh... not that much to do, i guess.

actually the rule is that if you come here asking for advices and show something, you implicitly accept to discuss/be discussed about whatever it's written in those images. then you can follow these suggestions or saying "thank you, but i'm fine as i am now" and deliberately ignore them - without whining if they don't work though. we already passed this stage, iirc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
however, only known methods to earn something in this game are drops, shrining and trading. if these don't work, uh... not that much to do, i guess.

If I ask for help, but not get help, does that mean you helped?

If I ask for help, but not get help, does that mean you helped?

if i answered, it means that at least i spent my time to try to. i simply remembered you what posting in this thread does mean. if you don't want to be advised on something, don't post anything that can lead to that something.

also: if you're not satisfied with my answer, wait for another one. and if you're not satisfied with my posts, feel free to ignore me. as simply as this.

Robe since you need the highest prof you can get (imperil only remove 25 dark resistances so you need higher prof to compensate).
But if I remember correctly aria said that 3+2 works better than 4+1 even with imperil.

After some computing today, with based on a good LDWD, hath perk and imperil, 4+1 with pants can get about total -55 dark resist, which is mostly mobs around pl1800. (except daimon, undead, elemental).
But I have a really good phase pants already, that make me hesitant.
I think I will try both prof robe and shoes in 4+1 and 3+2, if I can collect a complete dark set and enough forge mats.

After some computing today, with based on a good LDWD, hath perk and imperil, 4+1 with pants can get about total -55 dark resist, which is mostly mobs around pl1800. (except daimon, undead, elemental).
But I have a really good phase pants already, that make me hesitant.
I think I will try both prof robe and shoes in 4+1 and 3+2, if I can collect a complete dark set and enough forge mats.

btw, do you already have the prof perk?

btw, do you already have the prof perk?

yes, I have bought all the prof perks, maybe at time they came out.

After some computing today, with based on a good LDWD, hath perk and imperil, 4+1 with pants can get about total -55 dark resist, which is mostly mobs around pl1800. (except daimon, undead, elemental).

A good way to estimate the needed resist mitigation is, imho, checking hvlist for that specific resist.
[hvlist.niblseed.com] This is for dark.
There are a good number of mobs with >55 resist so probably the optimal value is higher than that, but if you have a really good pants it may be worth to try it out and see.

I think I will try both prof robe and shoes in 4+1 and 3+2, if I can collect a complete dark set and enough forge mats.

Well, if you can get a 3+2 with 1.0 prof you can also try out no-imperil play, which is definitely not bad (and probably better for nintendo or lower difficulties).

you can use Item Manager. or simply doing copy/paste.

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as for stats, simply hover them with the mouse and they will show their base values. if base is higher, then the item is better. something like that. with the latest patches, you can be almost sure that higher quality means higher stats as well. for example, a Legendary will be almost always better than a Magnificent. unless the Leg is very crappy and the Mag is outstanding, ofc.

New question. How to know which stats are better? I mean, there are multiple same equipment but when look at their stats, some of them have some stats that others lack and vice versa.

Okay, I'm not really sure what I wanted to ask (or know) actually, so maybe my questions will be a bit confusing (even I myself get confused with my own questions)(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

How about this: Let say we take this equipment as example. Taking it's quality into account, were its stats good, or just normal? I mean, is there any range of these stats to be categorized as "Normal", "Good", "Great", etc?(example: 0%-0.5% is "Bad" or something like that)

Physical Mitigation +9.46 %
Magical Mitigation +6.74 %
Evade Chance +2.08 %
Resist Chance +9.23 %
Burden +5.60
Interference +9.80

Damage Mitigations
Crushing +5.88 | Slashing +5.81 | Piercing +2.99

Primary Attributes
Strength +15.67 | Dexterity +15.67 | Endurance +11.17 | Agility +13.42

as for costs, uh... you should understand what market wants. btw, which Averages sell very high? can you point an example?

I don't quite remember where I've seen that since I don't have the credits to buy anything anyway.

My Stat Screen :


My Problem :
I'm mostly trying to get specific equipment, the ones that will decrease the cost of abilities (Frugal Prefix). How can I get them if I cannot find them in the market, if I cannot find them in the forums, if enemies do not drop them and if relics do not give them?

There's actually an advised META to use while leveling, which should mostly be:

Level 0 ~ Level 200 - Light Armor + 2H weapon

Level 150 ~ Level 200 - Light Armor + 1H + Shield

Level 200 ~ Level 500 - Power Armor + 1H + Shield

Level 300 ~ Level 500 - Mage

Of course, it's not required to follow this example as a rule, but it will make your life playing much easier, as playing as a mage with a low level and not having all abilities related to your spells unlocked is quite hard and time consuming.

It makes it only viable to play on low difficulties, while you could be playing on Hell+ with another fighting style, which every expert would recommend, as your income would be higher that way.

Anyways, as most equipment in the bazaar and on the forums are mostly above level 300 due to the level average of players, which aren't even in your soulfusing range, like Scremaz said, your best chance at getting frugal prefixed equip at your level will be gambling trophies at the shrine.

Of course, as it depends on RNG, I'd reccomend selling any trophy you get and focus on leveling up, as when you get to around level 250~300, you will be able to start finding some equipment you can soulfuse without having to depend on RNG to get the piece you want.

Can anyone teach me how to evaluate equipment based on their stats? I saw in some WTS/WTB threads where there are some equipment that have Average grade but sells very high of some sort. How do you know if the equipment stats are better than the other and such?

Edit: Btw, is there any way to copy the link of an equipment together with it's name? It's such a pain to write the name manually...

You can install sssss2's Equipment Comparison Script and Superlatanium's Percentile Ranges Script to be able to check rolls and compare gear easily.

And a nice life hack is to have the equipment pop-up open nearby, where you can first copy the equipment name, then highlight it in the forum, then click on insert link and paste the copied URL from the pop-up.

Another way is to first paste the URL in the forum, and write anything you want, like EQUIP in the follow up check box. After that, you can just copy the equipment name from the pop-up and change "EQUIP" at the end of the line for the actual name. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Kinights: Apr 30 2017, 16:09

New question. How to know which stats are better? I mean, there are multiple same equipment but when look at their stats, some of them have some stats that others lack and vice versa.

Okay, I'm not really sure what I wanted to ask (or know) actually, so maybe my questions will be a bit confusing (even I myself get confused with my own questions)(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

How about this: Let say we take this equipment as example. Taking it's quality into account, were its stats good, or just normal? I mean, is there any range of these stats to be categorized as "Normal", "Good", "Great", etc?(example: 0%-0.5% is "Bad" or something like that)

The main stats of the equipment should be what you want to be the best possible, so damage for melee weapons would come first, with parry and PABs next, and for staves, MDB and EDB would probably be tied in what the mage is looking for, with proficiency and other stats coming next.

For armor, currently common heavy, besides shielding prefixed, and common leather are taken as completely worthless, as they don't offer much benefits over using the rarer tiers of power and shade, which give additional damage.

Folowing this rule, for power armor, the damage would be the biggest roll factor, and for shade, damage and evade are the biggest ones.

This post has been edited by Kinights: Apr 30 2017, 16:16

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New question. How to know which stats are better?

allow me to ask you with another question: what do you want from a gear? that's the main stat you should look for. ie: you're looking for a rapier of slaughter? then ADB comes first. a waki to use for offhand DW? then parry comes first.
eventual exceptions depending on the style and your own idea of the game.

for example, if you go 1H Power, you may expend a bit of ADB on the Rapier in order to have more parry. DEX, Crit, STR can help too because they actively support the style. AGI is useless, and ACC is useless past a certain threshold. as for the armors, well... 1H relies on mere damage, so ADB and PABs, i'd say.
another example: again the Rapier, but DW style. DW Shade style relies on Evade and Crit, so this time AGI is needed as well though the lack in ADB *may* be balanced by a boost in Crit, so you may expend another bit of ADB in order to reach higher DEX/Crit if needed. personally i would consider STR expendable as well, if it's for the sake of higher DEX/AGI/parry/crit. and for armors, well - usually the spread in ADB for Shade armors is quite low (or at least lower than Power), so focus on Evade and PABs. if you're looking at Savage and or Shadowdancer, those ranges are eve more narrow, so take whatever comes.

something like that. of course, there's a limit to all this. if you're looking at a gear with only one good point and all the others are bad, well - change item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

A good way to estimate the needed resist mitigation is, imho, checking hvlist for that specific resist.
[hvlist.niblseed.com] This is for dark.
There are a good number of mobs with >55 resist so probably the optimal value is higher than that, but if you have a really good pants it may be worth to try it out and see.

Well, if you can get a 3+2 with 1.0 prof you can also try out no-imperil play, which is definitely not bad (and probably better for nintendo or lower difficulties).

The imperil with 3+2 you said, is that gloves + shoes which not 1.0 prof?

The imperil with 3+2 you said, is that gloves + shoes which not 1.0 prof?

To reach 1.0 prof, tha sum of base prof should be higher than 22.3.


My stats are

8.29 + 7.48 + 6.62 = 22.39

base prof 500 + perk 50 + equip 450.82 = 1000.82


The pmax prof of Willow Staff is 6.14, so you need (robe 9.89 + shoes 6.7) or (pants 9.09 + gloves 7.5).


p.s - Oh, I misunderstood your question.

In my opinion, a set for imperil with 3+2 should be gloves+shoes.

This post has been edited by sssss2: Apr 30 2017, 17:53

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