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post Apr 24 2017, 15:59
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Apr 24 2017, 15:41) *

Where's vivi?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

hmm... fair enough. guess i'll put a bit of the things in his wts - which is basically the common philosophy, afterall. plus, that thing about unlocking the first potency.
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post Apr 24 2017, 17:21
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Well I am from Europe so that is not the issue (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). But perhaps I need to lower my expectations
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post Apr 24 2017, 18:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2017, 14:31) *

editing getting started topic - and eventually, even wiki here and there. could someone remind me the strategy for IW, please?


If no Dard Desc: start with 1 potency per round (i.e. hell or lower if not soulfused, nightmare or lower if soulfused but this depends on PXP of item). If you want to save stamina, go higher diff when first 2 or 3 good potencies have been achieved.

Warning: difficult IW and starting below Hell may give you drop penalty (see wiki)

Jug5:
1st must be Jug
Reforge if Jug =< (badpot1 + badbot2)
Reforge if Jug < badpot1
Reforge if Jug5 isn't possible

Staff: Pen5 + whatever
1st must be Pen
If Pen1 then go 2 pots per round (advice, not requirement)
Pen2 must be in round 3 at latest
Pen3 must be in round 5 at latest
Stop at 9. (hollowforged sucks)

Staff: Pen5 + Spel3 (or even Spel4)
1st must be Pen
If Pen1 then go 2 pots per round (advice, not requirement)
Pen2 must be in round 3 at latest and reforge if any other pot than Pen or Spel shows up
Pen3 must be in round 5 at latest and reforge if any other pot than Pen or Spel shows up
Reforge if Pen < Spel, or if Pen = spell = badpot or if your desired outcome isn't possible anymore.
Stop at 9. (hollowforged sucks)

Weapons: similar to staff, but don't stop at 9, go for hollowforged

QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Apr 24 2017, 15:35) *

"galleries where I put a comment" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Sorry... my bad, read it wrong. No, no way to check that as far as I know.

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post Apr 24 2017, 18:35
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hmmm... guess i'll stick with one requirement only. two is... well, very advanced, not simply advanced (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 18:38
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2017, 18:35) *

hmmm... guess i'll stick with one requirement only. two is... well, very advanced, not simply advanced (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Can be quite fun! 3 days of continuous reforging!

By the way, maybe we should add this:

Get script HV Item Manager
Go to inventory screen
Fill in the name of your IW-equip
Select your IW-equip
Use HV Item Manager buttons to first Reforge then IW.
Repeat.

Much, much faster that going to forge for reforge and going to battle to IW.
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post Apr 24 2017, 18:46
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 24 2017, 18:38) *

Can be quite fun! 3 days of continuous reforging!

By the way, maybe we should add this:

Get script HV Item Manager
Go to inventory screen
Fill in the name of your IW-equip
Select your IW-equip
Use HV Item Manager buttons to first Reforge then IW.
Repeat.

Much, much faster that going to forge for reforge and going to battle to IW.

don't you think there has to be a limit to what we can/have to teach? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 18:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2017, 18:46) *

don't you think there has to be a limit to what we can/have to teach? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


you may be right...
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post Apr 24 2017, 20:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2017, 05:13) *

slight fix: usually people go for wakis because parry is high, EDB decent and BUR/ITR very low. it won't be used for physical attacks, so if you have to resort to a rapier, maybe you may want to consider a shortsword: same stats but way lower price. or so i think, at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


edb is same for the three weps i think (short/rap/waki). bur/itr might as well not exist with the price of feathers but i guess sure, for those that care. waki parry is indeed high and would be consider ideal, for those that care about the parry difference. in the end it's more about waht's available to the buyer. short/rap/waki.

@akuma101
if your purpose was prof farming, then your strat should be totally changed around. as sapo suggested, you're better off using a strat that tries to stay alive and have cheap costs so you can play on lower difficulties and transition into a full fledged mage as you kill stuff.

if you wanted to try prof farming in that way
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Interference
you could just wear a full suit of heavy armor+force shield and spam very weak 0 crit spells on a crude PFUDOR IW. i don't know if that is very easy on the sanity nor if it's very cost efficient though =\

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post Apr 24 2017, 20:44
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Apr 24 2017, 20:40) *

edb is same for the three weps i think (short/rap/waki). bur/itr might as well not exist with the price of feathers but i guess sure, for those that care.

lol. fair enough. my bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Slobber @ Apr 24 2017, 20:40) *

waki parry is indeed high and would be consider ideal, for those that care about the parry difference.

well, if you consider that the suggested suffix is niimble, i guess that people should really care about the difference... but yep, one of the reasons to use a rapier may be to re-use the weapon you already had, if you already were a 1Her to begin with.
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post Apr 24 2017, 21:04
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A question out of Curiosity: Why hollowforged suck on Staffs?

It will just change Crush damage to Void and add Void Strike for phisical attacks... or not?
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post Apr 24 2017, 21:05
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yah that's pretty much all it does. changes the staff crushing to void. and mages typically don't attack with the staff. the current meta suggests mages just keep casting spells and using potions
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post Apr 24 2017, 21:13
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btw, for 1H mage the weapon is waki because...have you seen the AGI of a rapier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 21:38
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Apr 24 2017, 21:13) *

btw, for 1H mage the weapon is waki because...have you seen the AGI of a rapier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

another good point, yep. if you look at that, that would put shortsword as second. too bad they don't come with nimble suffix, so basically you should pick Battlecaster as a suffix. they would be pretty damn cheap though.
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post Apr 24 2017, 21:45
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Battlecaster+Barrier could be a nice combo btw.
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post Apr 24 2017, 22:21
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Apr 24 2017, 21:45) *

Battlecaster+Barrier could be a nice combo btw.

maybe for holy/dark. for elementals i'd see nimble as a better choice. at least on the paper...
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post Apr 24 2017, 23:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 24 2017, 22:21) *

maybe for holy/dark. for elementals i'd see nimble as a better choice. at least on the paper...

holy/dark 1h mage? not even with double battlecaster, after 20 rounds you'll have to stick the monsters with your waki to get mp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 23:15
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Apr 24 2017, 23:07) *

holy/dark 1h mage? not even with double battlecaster, after 20 rounds you'll have to stick the monsters with your waki to get mp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

hmmm...

*goes looking spell costs*

*scratches head*

well, maybe you're right... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 23:31
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I'm not the one saying that first. Someone actually tried and probably, you'll need something like close to peerless frugal + double battlecaster, losing firepower in the process.
And afaik, 1h mage has no real difference between holy/dark and elemental, since you HAVE to imperil.
So why make your life hard, just use elemental (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Apr 24 2017, 23:36
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yes, yes. true. i forgot it, sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 25 2017, 19:51
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Which of these is a better shield? (not pricing these, mind you..)

Magnificent Cobalt Shield of Warding

Magnificent Force Shield of Protection

If I were to put it simply, does 40 Strength make up for a loss of half a percent of block?
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