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post Apr 19 2017, 23:12
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What is the average lot size for Energy Drinks? I checked the previous auctions and couldn't find any were auctioned off. I might have missed the ones that did have EDs.

If 50 is the average lot size:
Do I just mm the 50 ED and put anything in the message stating it is for auction or something?

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post Apr 19 2017, 23:33
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 19 2017, 22:00) *

iirc 2.5 was correct. it's that kind of things that is asked so many times that i'm tempted to add it in wiki.

it's even quite simple, but no matter how many times they'll explain me - i won't remember it even if they pay me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


So simply you cannot remember (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Whatever it is, it isn't 50% extra on 10%.

It really isn't worth spending a dime on it if its only 2.5%. I already got it to level 30 now. I want a refund. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)






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post Apr 19 2017, 23:40
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Apr 19 2017, 23:33) *

So simply you cannot remember (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Whatever it is, it isn't 50% extra on 10%.

It really isn't worth spending a dime on it if its only 2.5%. I already got it to level 30 now. I want a refund. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

oh, yes, i noted your point in the other thread. well, Tenboro gives you some tools, but some of them are allegedly credit sinks. and i have a hard time thinking that a thing that gives you a linear reward with a quadratic expense needed isn't.
apart for that other answer you recieved, i guess that at a certain point one should discern by himself whether it's worth to upgrade something or not. you're a lv330, you're not a kid anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 20 2017, 00:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 19 2017, 22:40) *

oh, yes, i noted your point in the other thread. well, Tenboro gives you some tools, but some of them are allegedly credit sinks. and i have a hard time thinking that a thing that gives you a linear reward with a quadratic expense needed isn't.
apart for that other answer you recieved, i guess that at a certain point one should discern by himself whether it's worth to upgrade something or not. you're a lv330, you're not a kid anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



I started at level 1 sinking my money in that cesspool. I stopped ages ago spending on drops. Now I am going to waste it on hath perks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I actually wouldn't mind if it was 5% extra but 2.5%, not worth it.

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post Apr 20 2017, 00:10
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Apr 20 2017, 00:08) *

I started at level 1 sinking my money in that cesspool. I stopped ages ago spending on drops. Now I am going to waste it on hath perks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

uh, another sore point. which ones, exactly?
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post Apr 20 2017, 00:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 19 2017, 23:10) *

uh, another sore point. which ones, exactly?


Nothing bad:

Postage Paid (Good)
Resplendent Regeneration (I thought it would add it with potting. It doesn't)
Innate Arcana V (Really paid off when I got to level V. Lower level it sucked)
Dæmon Duality. I am thinking of getting higher levels up to Æsahættr. 30% on damage seems really good. Take that back. I just figured out how much it would cost. Seems out of my range any time soon.

Items I am thinking of getting:
Vigorous Vitality
Effluent Ether
Enigma Energizer

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post Apr 20 2017, 00:25
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Apr 19 2017, 21:12) *
@Superlatanium
What is the average lot size for Energy Drinks? I checked the previous auctions and couldn't find any were auctioned off. I might have missed the ones that did have EDs.

If 50 is the average lot size:
Do I just mm the 50 ED and put anything in the message stating it is for auction or something?
Often 50ish, occasionally ~20, but they're so valuable that pretty much any quantity is OK to auction.

Yeah, just send them in MM and they'll get auctioned
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post Apr 20 2017, 00:29
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 19 2017, 17:25) *

Often 50ish, occasionally ~20, but they're so valuable that pretty much any quantity is OK to auction.

Yeah, just send them in MM and they'll get auctioned

K, sent 50 for auction.
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post Apr 20 2017, 00:31
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QUOTE(dairyman20111889 @ Apr 19 2017, 16:44) *

I'm interested in this question too.

I remember Pots of Gold settling at 200k each last year. There's already a seller buying Rainbow Smoothies for 250k. Could their price can go any higher still?


I hope you waited.

blackjac:
Precursor Smoothie Blender@610000(Not artifacts) ... it stared at 450K I think

All @510000 .... I saw it @400K-450K or something like that a few days ago.
Dinosaur Egg

I hope he won something good.
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post Apr 20 2017, 02:11
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Hi

I hit a point where I have enough questions that I decided it's enough to make a post about:

1: I've been previously told that int is completely useless for melee. I was able to reduce the points I invested into it (back when I mistakenly thought int increases mana pool, bad habit from other rpgs) by 10 points, but not more. Is there any way to reduce it further by some means or to completely re assign stat points (aside from making a new persona) or "I'm screwed"?

2: I remember that there was a script that highlighted equipment in the equipment shop, equipment page and the inventory page based on the item's quality and giving an unique color for ethereal weapons but I forgot it's name, any chance that someone remembers it and/or maybe even has a link to it?

3: Has anyone ever written a guide for new players on something like "what makes an item better than other items of the same type"? All I faintly remember from the last time I played that I used to spend an absurd amount of time refreshing equipment shop like every 10 min, looking for weapons that were both "Ethereal" and "of Slaughter" and Power Armor pieces "of Slaughter"

I would be interested in that because of 2 things:
3.1: This is my current gear that I have to work with. I think the rapier of all of them is by far the best thing that I managed to snipe from the equipment shop, and (at least I'm still in the belief) should last for a while, but it would be nice to know what to look for in "possible upgrades" for the armors: Rapier | Shield | Helm | Armor | Gauntlets | Leggings | Sabatons

3.2 The second half is that I'm curious about it because I'd like to know the difference between "vendor trash" and items that would at least worth an attempt to sell.

For now, these are the items I put aside from trophy-es and drops because I thought "they might worth something" but decided to ask ppl here first in case it turns out they are not special by any means: Item 1 | Item 2 | Item 3 | Item 4 | Item 5 | Item 6

4. Related to 3.1, I'm curious about "what should I focus on" and where my gold should be going as a still somewhat "fresh" lvl 233 player to make optimal progress. Recently I invested near all I earn (and did not spend on repair) on Hath, buying 2 Innate Arcana slot for Protection and Haste, for now I'm considering a third slot for Spark of Life, unless ppl here will suggest otherwise. As for "how much I invested into training" [i.imgur.com] I'll link to a screen shot, and my current equipment has been already linked above if some of it looks like they'd need to be replaced.
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4.1 Side question about innate arcana: I faintly remember that some use of skills will apply them without the bonuses from the "abilities" you have equipped and just use the "stock" bonus less version of the skill which I think was either innate arcana or scrolls, or neither and I just have F-d up memory. A confirmation would be reassuring to hear the very least.

5. Somewhat related to 3.2, but I wonder if there is any other way a new player like me could earn some extra gold aside from trading away precursor artifacts (or the energy drinks I open from them) and figurines. Like any other artifact that might be better worth to actually sell rather than shrine around my level or rare things that worth to keep an eye out for.

6. Lastly, I'm curious if there is a special way to "grind mana draught", like mass grinding a given battle type on lower difficulty or something like that. I recently ran out of them and while I was looking at WTS posts I seen ppl that have them available in the 10K-s, so I thought it's worth to ask as I wouldn't spend gold on it unless "I have to".

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post Apr 20 2017, 02:30
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QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
Hi

I hit a point where I have enough questions that I decided it's enough to make a post about:

1: I've been previously told that int is completely useless for melee. I was able to reduce the points I invested into it (back when I mistakenly thought int increases mana pool, bad habit from other rpgs) by 10 points, but not more. Is there any way to reduce it further by some means or to completely re assign stat points (aside from making a new persona) or "I'm screwed"?
Don't worry about it, just so long as it's nowhere near the order of magnitude of your other stats, it's fine. Due to the exponential distribution of attributes, you don't lose much of anything even if you have a few too many points in a mostly useless stat.

(and having a bit of Int is good for more base spirit, which prolongs Spirit Stance by a bit)
QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
3: Has anyone ever written a guide for new players on something like "what makes an item better than other items of the same type"? All I faintly remember from the last time I played that I used to spend an absurd amount of time refreshing equipment shop like every 10 min, looking for weapons that were both "Ethereal" and "of Slaughter" and Power Armor pieces "of Slaughter"
Bazaar is mostly useless now, if you want a reasonable chance of finding usable gears, you'll have to buy them from other players somehow.
QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
I would be interested in that because of 2 things:
3.1: This is my current gear that I have to work with. I think the rapier of all of them is by far the best thing that I managed to snipe from the equipment shop, and (at least I'm still in the belief) should last for a while, but it would be nice to know what to look for in "possible upgrades" for the armors:

3.2 The second half is that I'm curious about it because I'd like to know the difference between "vendor trash" and items that would at least worth an attempt to sell.
Rapier is good, IW it to 10 if you can (or wait a handful more levels, find a Mag, and IW it to 10 or get someone to IW it for you).

I think power armor is mediocre below level 250, and only becomes pretty good (as opposed to one decent option) once you can get Mag+ Slaughters (or any-suffix Leg).

That said, you already have a usable set, and changing sets is pretty difficult for low-level players, so I wouldn't bother changing to a different style.

For cheap upgrades, look for Mag+ Power non-Slaughter. They won't be common below 300, but they're not incredibly rare either. You can also look for Mag+ Plate of Protection or Dampening; similar enough rarity, and cheap. Don't spend too much on gear until 300+, at which point soulfusing actual high-quality gears becomes possible.

That Mag and lower stuff you have in inventory is usable, but it'll be too hard to sell (and will go for too little) to be worth going to the trouble, probably.
QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
4. Related to 3.1, I'm curious about "what should I focus on" and where my gold should be going as a still somewhat "fresh" lvl 233 player to make optimal progress. Recently I invested near all I earn (and did not spend on repair) on Hath, buying 2 Innate Arcana slot for Protection and Haste, for now I'm considering a third slot for Spark of Life, unless ppl here will suggest otherwise. As for "how much I invested into training" I'll attach a screen shot, and my current equipment has been already linked above if some of it looks like they'd need to be replaced.
Primarily, clearing speed will be most increased by getting to a higher level. Training and such helps a bit in making play easier and more profitable, but it really pales in comparison to the effects of level scaling (tankyness) and higher-quality equips becoming available.

If I were you, save your credits (except possibly for OFC, if you don't have it).
QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
5. Somewhat related to 3.2, but I wonder if there is any other way a new player like me could earn some extra gold aside from trading away precursor artifacts (or the energy drinks I open from them) and figurines.
Getting any reasonable amount of HV income is very hard for low-level players. If you want a big chunk of income, better to do bounties or something.
QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 00:11) *
6. Lastly, I'm curious if there is a special way to "grind mana draught"
Yes, ask people to give them to you for free (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 20 2017, 02:44
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How bad is an Ethereal Rapier with a fire strike?
It got IW10 when upgrading,and it's soulfused I can't use free reforge service.If I IW it that would take a lot of Amnesia Shards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Apr 20 2017, 02:47
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QUOTE(Nanoha_Prayer @ Apr 20 2017, 00:44) *
How bad is a Ethereal Rapier with a fire strike?
It got IW10 when upgrading,and it's soulfused I can't use free reforge service.If I IW it that would take a lot of Amnesia Shards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
If you want to fight against SGs a lot, that's pretty bad. Holy/Dark or bust.

If you don't, the effect is quite minimal, I wouldn't bother changing it.
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post Apr 20 2017, 03:55
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 19 2017, 20:47) *

If you want to fight against SGs a lot, that's pretty bad. Holy/Dark or bust.

If you don't, the effect is quite minimal, I wouldn't bother changing it.

Thanks,usually I finish the daily arena then do some GF if I have time.
I think I should upgrade more before reforging it to avoid the same situation happens again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 20 2017, 04:05
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Thank you for the quick reply. Then once I'll get some mana draughts I'll get back to grinding for levels until stamina allows it, and focusing on IW while I'm at it. Maybe also push 29 more level into adept learner so I have it on 100 for slightly faster leveling.

As for character stat distribution it's looking like S:279 D:229 A:229 E:279 I:170 W:229, so I guess it must be not too terrible.
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post Apr 20 2017, 04:12
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QUOTE(Nuclearmy @ Apr 20 2017, 02:05) *
Thank you for the quick reply. Then once I'll get some mana draughts I'll get back to grinding for levels until stamina allows it, and focusing on IW while I'm at it. Maybe also push 29 more level into adept learner so I have it on 100 for slightly faster leveling.
Adept Learner is certainly one of the most worthwhile trainings for low-level players.

But that's only part of it. The real way to gain levels quickly is by toplisting. (we're probably going to have our fastest to-500 player shortly, and he's on that path simply because he understands toplisting. that said, if anyone wants to toplist, make sure to contribute productively...)
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post Apr 20 2017, 05:55
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Any gotchas with older equipment? I had an offer on a WTB for some older pieces.
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post Apr 20 2017, 06:12
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I am new to this game (Hentaiverse)
Any advice or tips to help a new player? :D

Thanks In Advance :D

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QUOTE(Adrixer @ Apr 20 2017, 00:12) *

I am new to this game (Hentaiverse)
Any advice or tips to help a new player? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks In Advance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Read the wiki Advice page.
After that, go to the WTS subforum and find someone like issary or ArbiterErii and get yourself a complete set
of gear. Then have at it.

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post Apr 20 2017, 07:41
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Huh....So....Rapiers are actually good? Looking at stats they felt....underwhelming compared to other weapons, which was disappointing since rapiers are my favorite type of sword.

But if they're viable i'll look into getting some better ones, my current DW setup has over 40%parry chance right now.

My 2 hander definitely feels underwhelming if i try a higher difficulty am I missing something? Is there something that makes 2h good? Or is it doomed to become useless as i progress?
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