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Apr 8 2017, 20:59
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Epion
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And i just realized you said GF and not IW... So... forget what i said above, or rather... go for as long as you can and then simply flee. I would still recommend hell difficulty, even if you should be able to do 500 or 600 rounds of nintendo, since it's fast and not that expensive on consumables. Go at it normally for... i guess 150-200 rounds and then start using scrolls and even infusions if you have enough. Once things get tricky just flee and start over.
Edit: You can even go at it on PF. Do something like 100 rounds or as many as you can handle and then flee. Unlike the arenas or IW runs, there is no need to think of a GF as a "must finish it" clear.
This post has been edited by Epion: Apr 8 2017, 21:31
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Apr 8 2017, 21:31
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(Epion @ Apr 8 2017, 20:54)  Protection 100%, but i would say... better all of them? Swiftness, Protection and Shadows and even if they don't make any real difference have the Absorption up as well. I would probably go with normal buffs till more or less round 20 and then start using the scrolls according to the incoming damage. They have a stronger effect compared to the normal buffs and even at lower difficulty the slow dark/holy mage style leaves you open to huge incoming damage at later IW rounds, even at low difficulties.
Ty for the advice, tried grindfest on hell, got to 243 (about 30 mins of playing) till I had to use a spirit elixir, just quit at that point, waste too many turns re-imperiling mobs that resist =/. Got an Easter drop at least, but really need to upgrade my gear more before I even think of doing all 1k rounds at this point. There's also the fact that I only profited about 60k criedits + 1 easter drop from those 243 rounds and that's only because I got 2 precursor artifact drops so the stamina drain is a turn off as well. This post has been edited by abc12345678901: Apr 8 2017, 21:34
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Apr 8 2017, 21:34
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Epion
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 8 2017, 19:31)  Ty for the advice, tried grindfest on hell, got to 243 till I had to use a spirit elixir, just quit at that point, waste too many turns re-imperiling mobs that resist =/, got an Easter drop at least, but really need to upgrade my gear more before I even think of doing all 1k rounds at this point.
I edited above, but, since as a dark mage you need good and forged gear and you don't seem to have that, remember that 1) You can exchange these artifacts with others. So You can get the ones you are missing even without doing a single GF round. 2) GFs have no need for a "must finish it" run. You can even do them on PF, so to say and just do something like 60-100 rounds, flee and repeat, till you get the stuff you are looking for. This post has been edited by Epion: Apr 8 2017, 21:52
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Apr 8 2017, 21:36
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Scremaz
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Apr 8 2017, 21:51
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Epion
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 8 2017, 19:36)  Bad boobs-man. Bad.
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Apr 8 2017, 22:09
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Epion @ Apr 8 2017, 21:51)  Bad boobs-man. Bad.
lol. btw, if anyone was wondering, Easter artifacts don't replace Precursors. just did an arena in which dropped Lemon, Kiwi and Precursor as well.
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Apr 8 2017, 22:31
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AnonDarkMage7
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Might as well ask this now, so if you shrine an Easter drop what do you get? Is it the precursor drop table + a low level trophy?
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Apr 8 2017, 22:52
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 8 2017, 22:31)  Might as well ask this now, so if you shrine an Easter drop what do you get? Is it the precursor drop table + a low level trophy?
yes, with the exceptions that: 1. only 1 Hath, rather than two. 2. trophies (btw, last year "low-level" was on par with a Stuffers) are awarded only the day after Easter.
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Apr 8 2017, 23:23
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 8 2017, 22:52)  yes, with the exceptions that: 1. only 1 Hath, rather than two. 2. trophies (btw, last year "low-level" was on par with a Stuffers) are awarded only the day after Easter.
ok then, how does the trophy reward work, is it if you shrine x number of ancients you get x trophies or are you capped at 1 per type? If you shrine x sets do you get x high trophies + 7x low trophies, x high trophies + no low trophies, or just capped at 1 high trophy?
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Apr 9 2017, 00:15
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-Shun-
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Wasn't expecting the item drops to be spread to different game modes so... Is the drop rate difference not that noticeable between PF and IWBTH/Nintendo? My 1h build is crap and I'm just barely at 7k damage so not sure if I can handle mini PFest or IW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by -Shun-: Apr 9 2017, 00:16
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Apr 9 2017, 00:18
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bimaXJC
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my stat : [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/bD25kBtI'm currently : 1. equipments can be seen from my signature 2. using corruption to fight would like inputs for : 1. my status distributions (what's my current stat distribution rate out of 10, I anticipate it's quite bad, and what ratio should I distribute them) 2. how to get credits fast using mage build. 3. status distribution for 1h heavy, I want a tank persona (also please recommend a weapon type and shield type, also what buffs I should always use when fighting) 4. any recommendation of fighting style that would allow me to farm credits easily 5. how to farm for artifacts 6. what items I should look for each personas ( the mage, the tank, the one recommended) for the experts inputs and help, thank you in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 9 2017, 00:32
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(bimaXJC @ Apr 9 2017, 00:18)  my stat : [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/bD25kBtI'm currently : 1. equipments can be seen from my signature 2. using corruption to fight would like inputs for : 1. my status distributions (what's my current stat distribution rate out of 10, I anticipate it's quite bad, and what ratio should I distribute them) 2. how to get credits fast using mage build. 3. status distribution for 1h heavy, I want a tank persona (also please recommend a weapon type and shield type, also what buffs I should always use when fighting) 4. any recommendation of fighting style that would allow me to farm credits easily 5. how to farm for artifacts 6. what items I should look for each personas ( the mage, the tank, the one recommended) for the experts inputs and help, thank you in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For the dark mage: Think you have a bit too much strength, and maybe raise endurance a bit more. For gear, you might want to get a few cotton pieces of the demon fiend to raise your forbidden prof factor which reduces mob's dark mitigation, prof factor = (forbidden prof/level) - 1, mitigation reduction = (prof factor^1.5)*50. If you balance the bonus dark damage with mitigation reduction as much as possible you'll deal a lot more damage, even though you have less bonus dark damage. For the weapon, try to find a strong willow staff if you can. Also you should always play on at least hard in order to get access to every type of drop possible. Not really sure how to get credits too fast on mage///only because I played mage since level 10 so I never had a reference point to how fast other persona's generate credits, though apparently mage is the worst at low levels.Only thing I can recommend is to get Crackling Cast script to help with clear speeds which will let you gain more credits faster overall despite burning resources a bit faster as well.
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Apr 9 2017, 00:37
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bimaXJC
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 9 2017, 05:32)  For the dark mage: Think you have a bit too much strength, and maybe raise endurance a bit more. For gear, you might want to get a few cotton pieces of the demon fiend to raise your forbidden prof factor which reduces mob's dark mitigation, prof factor = (forbidden prof/level) - 1, mitigation reduction = (prof factor^1.5)*50. If you balance the bonus dark damage with mitigation reduction as much as possible you'll deal a lot more damage, even though you have less bonus dark damage. For the weapon, try to find a strong willow staff if you can. Also you should always play on at least hard in order to get access to every type of drop possible. Not really sure how to get credits too fast on mage///only because I played mage since level 10 so I never had a reference point to how fast other persona's generate credits, though apparently mage is the worst at low levels.Only thing I can recommend is to get Crackling Cast script to help with clear speeds which will let you gain more credits faster overall despite burning resources a bit faster as well.
I see, demon fiend and willow staff... will take note for this type then and that crackling cast seems nice thanks a bunch
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Apr 9 2017, 04:44
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Muddybug
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QUOTE 3. status distribution for 1h heavy, I want a tank persona (also please recommend a weapon type and shield type, also what buffs I should always use when fighting) Rapier is the recommendation for weapon. If you get in the 170s, I have a Superior Rapier I can pass on to you. Shield type ideal is Force, but they're hard to find. I replaced my old Average Force Shield with a Superior Kite Shield because the block was as good and almost everything else was better. Shield = block, pretty much. I cast: Protection. SoL Regen These are the three basics. If at any time I get a free cast, I then cast Heartseeker. If I can then sneak in Haste, I do so. If I get more free casts, I then cast Shadow Veil. I found Shadow Veil to be essential in light armor in the middle 100s, but not necessary (nice to have) with heavy armor. Mediocre heavy armor and weapon should allow you to fight on Hell in RE. Yes, block makes that much difference. My stats are probably not optimized, but first three should be > LEVEL. End and Wis about your LEVEL. Intelligence can lag to about 0.7 your level. I'm sure someone in the 400s will have better recs, but those are mine. You might have to manage SPIRIT on and off to manage the spell cost, but as your pool gets larger, the spells get easier to cast. Heartseeker + Shield Bash (Vital Strike when u get it) + good rapier makes 1h much faster. This post has been edited by dmyers59: Apr 9 2017, 04:46
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Apr 9 2017, 04:57
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Muddybug
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Couple weeks ago, I tried to try Reloader and basically died. I guess I should ask, what is Reloader supposed to do? Maybe if I know how it is supposed to help me, then maybe I could be helped.
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Apr 9 2017, 05:11
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tganimation6
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Depends on what you have on at the time. Reloader is meant to change the system of HV from one that reloads every time you hit a single monster so that rounds go faster. Reloader (at least one of the modified ones) should stop attacking when you hit the red part of your health, like, less than 50% health, so you don't die to monsters attacking while you're low. Reloader's Mousemelee makes attacking monsters easier since you don't need to click or use numbers to target monsters, because hovering over monsters is added. You should always have Spark of Life on with Innate Arcana or otherwise in case you get oneshot by a monster, so you don't immediately lose. gianfrix94 has a bunch of Reloader scripts (for mousemelee and round counters and gems and all that all placed in one script) in his signature, so try those out.
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Apr 9 2017, 05:34
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Juggernaut Santa
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How does the crystal bonus in GF work? I have crystarium II and I normally drop 9 crystals at a time, and I know that until round 400 or 600 GF shouldn't give any bonus. But, I just passed round 88 or 89 and I'm dropping 10 now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Apr 9 2017, 06:06
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sigo8
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Apr 8 2017, 21:34)  How does the crystal bonus in GF work? I have crystarium II and I normally drop 9 crystals at a time, and I know that until round 400 or 600 GF shouldn't give any bonus. But, I just passed round 88 or 89 and I'm dropping 10 now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I can confirm the wiki is currently accurate on this issue. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Grindfest#Crystal_DropsIt starts dropping 10 at round 84. Round 500 is when the bonus stops increasing.
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Apr 9 2017, 07:08
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dairyman20111889
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Is there a script available that allows for inventory to be sorted by most recently dropped?
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Apr 9 2017, 07:26
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Apr 8 2017, 23:11)  Depends on what you have on at the time. Reloader is meant to change the system of HV from one that reloads every time you hit a single monster so that rounds go faster. Reloader (at least one of the modified ones) should stop attacking when you hit the red part of your health, like, less than 50% health, so you don't die to monsters attacking while you're low. Reloader's Mousemelee makes attacking monsters easier since you don't need to click or use numbers to target monsters, because hovering over monsters is added. You should always have Spark of Life on with Innate Arcana or otherwise in case you get oneshot by a monster, so you don't immediately lose. gianfrix94 has a bunch of Reloader scripts (for mousemelee and round counters and gems and all that all placed in one script) in his signature, so try those out.
Just for yucks, after I posted, I tried it out on the lowest Arena fight on Normal. After, a couple Arenas at Nightmare, then several on Hard. Yes, I can see a use for mass slaughter of very long Arena fights at low settings. But it's not the fix for harder fights.
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