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post Apr 7 2017, 16:20
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Apr 7 2017, 15:20) *

How does specific mitigation works in defense stats? I want to understand why my DW Light persona is more fragile than my 1H heavy. Their physical mitigation is not that different., only 8% difference.

What the Experts before me said is all true. What could also play a big role is offence: dead monsters do no damage. And 1h heavy tends to have huge offence with power armour + perma Spirit + penetrated armour + parry + whatnot.

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0% block. thats all.

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post Apr 7 2017, 16:33
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 7 2017, 01:24) *

Equip it, maybe? Nothing else I can think of. And then next step I suggest you look for a rapier and shield to go with that leather.


Is it worth enhancing that kind of piece, or are all gear below lvl 250 to be regarded as disposable?

Worst case, I use the piece till I can't and then donate/sell it to the guys to rent free gear to beginners.

I have two personas, 2h + light and 1h + heavy presently. The first is what I started with, on f4tal's advice, the
latter I picked up when Slobber noted there was no reason not to have > 1 persona. Figured it would be
good to start 1h skills now, since that's where melee goes > 250. And it's had benefits. With mediocre gear, hell
in Re is survivable in 1h + heavy. whereas I was having difficulty with it with 2h + light > lvl 100+.

At least once source suggests getting a great force shield first. I have a couple superior rapiers that will last to 225 or so. But their damage output, compared to a mace, is tiny.

Edit: one last question, how do people get those links for their equipment?


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post Apr 7 2017, 16:53
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Edit: one last question, how do people get those links for their equipment?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_Popups
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post Apr 7 2017, 18:30
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Apr 7 2017, 16:33) *

Is it worth enhancing that kind of piece, or are all gear below lvl 250 to be regarded as disposable?

Worst case, I use the piece till I can't and then donate/sell it to the guys to rent free gear to beginners.

I have two personas, 2h + light and 1h + heavy presently. The first is what I started with, on f4tal's advice, the
latter I picked up when Slobber noted there was no reason not to have > 1 persona. Figured it would be
good to start 1h skills now, since that's where melee goes > 250. And it's had benefits. With mediocre gear, hell
in Re is survivable in 1h + heavy. whereas I was having difficulty with it with 2h + light > lvl 100+.

At least once source suggests getting a great force shield first. I have a couple superior rapiers that will last to 225 or so. But their damage output, compared to a mace, is tiny.

Edit: one last question, how do people get those links for their equipment?


Don't be fooled by the Damage of the rapier! It may have a lower number in the top at "piercing damage", but the rapier has some hidden extra's that make it the only weapon of choice for 1h. It stacks Penetrating Armour, and then Overpower, and then parry and then... well, it does much more damage than the label says. An axe may look stronger but is in fact way weaker.
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post Apr 8 2017, 09:26
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Okay, so I've hit level 200 and made the transition to heavy armor like the wiki suggested. Does this mean I don't have to put any more stats into Agility (currently at 200), since the burden completely tanks evade anyway?
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:17
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I dont use these weapons, if i sell them, how much would it be worth?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a5279f2a31
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ab532935d9
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6466e6cc06
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e7a4f55a1a
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:17
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QUOTE(friggo @ Apr 8 2017, 10:26) *

Okay, so I've hit level 200 and made the transition to heavy armor like the wiki suggested. Does this mean I don't have to put any more stats into Agility (currently at 200), since the burden completely tanks evade anyway?


Agility still give you physical mitigation, it just not priority now.

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You know, there is thread for price check
I would bazaar it, but sometimes low level stuff may be sold for... 5-10k?

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post Apr 8 2017, 10:18
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QUOTE(friggo @ Apr 8 2017, 15:26) *

Okay, so I've hit level 200 and made the transition to heavy armor like the wiki suggested. Does this mean I don't have to put any more stats into Agility (currently at 200), since the burden completely tanks evade anyway?


maybe just lag it a few points behind your level. 0.5 physical mitigation can contribute though i don't know by how much
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:27
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For how much are Crystal Packs going these days?
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:30
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Cheapest is 35k, but mostly 36+k
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post Apr 8 2017, 10:48
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Apr 8 2017, 14:00) *
Cheapest is 35k, but mostly 36+k
Thanks for the info.
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post Apr 8 2017, 11:36
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Apr 8 2017, 11:18) *

maybe just lag it a few points behind your level. 0.5 physical mitigation can contribute though i don't know by how much


QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Apr 8 2017, 11:17) *

Agility still give you physical mitigation, it just not priority now.


Thanks for the responses.

I've gotta say, I was a bit wary at first about changing my leather armor for plate, because I really liked my evade, but it's really made a noticeable improvement on survivability, even when starting at 0.00 heavy proficiency and using only self-found pieces. Heavy armor all the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 8 2017, 14:47
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Your opinion mages.

Assuming that a charged/radiant pair of dark phage pants with decent rolls is not only rare but around the 25-30M or higher, that will be out of my reach for a long time, had you been in my place, would you forge
Legendary Frugal Phase Pants of Fenrir, despite the high forging costs?
My body piece if reserved for cloth, as such the only other major piece of damaging armor i can count onto are the pants, that i should aim to get with a useful prefix.
Yet i don't know the exact effects of efficiency that a good rolls piece would bring, plus when compared with a lower rolls but prefixed piece the results were not exactly great, since the charged piece with far lower rolls would help to keep up with the last 200 rounds of a GF, while on it's own the frugal did not.
Yet for a dark mage, raw power should be all that matters.

The question is... keep saving in order to be able to get a decent prefixed piece later on, or be satisfied with a high rolls frugal/vanilla?
Or to put it in other words... Does the "radiant" forging, make that much of an impact?

A high rolls radiant piece is unlikely to ever see an auction and if it does, baron cats will be hitting it with 100M plus strikes, so the best that i could aim for is something around the area of 20-50% dark prof.

It takes more than 1M however to forge only 5 points of a phage piece. So as soon as you start forging a piece and you don't have a steady great income to back you up, you pretty much give up on replacing it.

Can you give me your opinion? What does your experience say?
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post Apr 8 2017, 16:01
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QUOTE(Epion @ Apr 8 2017, 14:47) *

Your opinion mages.

Assuming that a charged/radiant pair of dark phage pants with decent rolls is not only rare but around the 25-30M or higher, that will be out of my reach for a long time, had you been in my place, would you forge
Legendary Frugal Phase Pants of Fenrir, despite the high forging costs?
My body piece if reserved for cloth, as such the only other major piece of damaging armor i can count onto are the pants, that i should aim to get with a useful prefix.
Yet i don't know the exact effects of efficiency that a good rolls piece would bring, plus when compared with a lower rolls but prefixed piece the results were not exactly great, since the charged piece with far lower rolls would help to keep up with the last 200 rounds of a GF, while on it's own the frugal did not.
Yet for a dark mage, raw power should be all that matters.

The question is... keep saving in order to be able to get a decent prefixed piece later on, or be satisfied with a high rolls frugal/vanilla?
Or to put it in other words... Does the "radiant" forging, make that much of an impact?

A high rolls radiant piece is unlikely to ever see an auction and if it does, baron cats will be hitting it with 100M plus strikes, so the best that i could aim for is something around the area of 20-50% dark prof.

It takes more than 1M however to forge only 5 points of a phage piece. So as soon as you start forging a piece and you don't have a steady great income to back you up, you pretty much give up on replacing it.

Can you give me your opinion? What does your experience say?


I'm about the same level as you, and boy am I glad I went for elemental! The way I see it, that raw power thing is only possible with good gear. Especially staff is important. Imperil style is also possible for dark, and may well be easier to achieve? In my experience as Elemental: forging radiant doesn't speed up as much as getting more charged / spellweaver. But that's is because of imperil. Radiant dark is much more damage, though...

Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
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post Apr 8 2017, 17:20
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i am trying to use income summary script...
but when i go to inventory a pop up windows show with text like this
"Please disable the default HV font via Settings and use an ordinary font instead so scripts can read the page"
i understand till the setting part... but i never tamper with the font (it is still original), so please teach me how to solve the font problem.
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post Apr 8 2017, 19:39
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Apr 8 2017, 17:20) *

i am trying to use income summary script...
but when i go to inventory a pop up windows show with text like this
"Please disable the default HV font via Settings and use an ordinary font instead so scripts can read the page"
i understand till the setting part... but i never tamper with the font (it is still original), so please teach me how to solve the font problem.
thx.

In the settings page in HV there's a section for setting the font. Type in: Arial. Size 8. Bottom of page: save settings. Ready!
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post Apr 8 2017, 19:57
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Thinking of trying grindfest for the first time due to the easter event, so Question, as a dark mage which diffculty should I try so that I don't get destroyed? these are my stats:

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I can do IWBTH arena challenges with little diffculty (though it takes about 10min for trio and the tree and 45 for DWD) but 81 round IW on hell started making me weaken every mob near the end since they ate my spirit via SoL/SS procs.
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post Apr 8 2017, 20:18
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 8 2017, 17:57) *

Thinking of trying grindfest for the first time due to the easter event, so Question, as a dark mage which diffculty should I try so that I don't get destroyed? these are my stats:

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I can do IWBTH arena challenges with little diffculty (though it takes about 10min for trio and the tree and 45 for DWD) but 81 round IW on hell started making me weaken every mob near the end since they ate my spirit via SoL/SS procs.



Problem with playing under hell difficulty is that you are susceptible to the clear malus. Yet with such gear hell difficulty IW runs on legendary/mag gear are already the limit, plus if you go under that the "artifacts" will be near impossible to get. So hell and use scrolls.

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post Apr 8 2017, 20:29
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QUOTE(Epion @ Apr 8 2017, 20:18) *

Problem with playing under hell difficulty is that you are susceptible to the clear malus. Yet with such gear hell difficulty IW runs on legendary/mag gear are already the limit, plus if you go under that the "artifacts" will be near impossible to get. So hell and use scrolls.

scrolls? which ones? (also currently have IA3 w/ SS, SoL, and haste as auto cast)
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scrolls? which ones? (also currently have IA3 w/ SS, SoL, and haste as auto cast)



Protection 100%, but i would say... better all of them?
Swiftness, Protection and Shadows and even if they don't make any real difference have the Absorption up as well.
I would probably go with normal buffs till more or less round 20 and then start using the scrolls according to the incoming damage. They have a stronger effect compared to the normal buffs and even at lower difficulty the slow dark/holy mage style leaves you open to huge incoming damage at later IW rounds, even at low difficulties.
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