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post Apr 5 2017, 22:05
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 5 2017, 21:51) *

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funny thing, i read "how" rather than "why" on the monster lab question (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 5 2017, 23:02
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Hmm ok so PFUDOR IW isn't really useful then, good to know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And as the other guy said:; IW for Hollowforged/second Strike seems to be at least useful, even if the weapon isn't great that just means I don't have to use shards on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It seems like Overpower and Swift Strike always get in the way of good Potencies for me anyway.



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post Apr 6 2017, 09:36
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post Apr 6 2017, 19:32
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At what point should I try to IW armor for Juggernaught (as in start burning amesia shards or just send piece out for IW service)? At a certain level? Certain gear quality?
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post Apr 6 2017, 21:49
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 6 2017, 19:32) *

At what point should I try to IW armor for Juggernaught (as in start burning amesia shards or just send piece out for IW service)? At a certain level? Certain gear quality?

Gear quality I'd say.
At long as the gear is worth 100+k I'd try to get at least some jugg.
If it's 500+k and we are talking about mage I would always go for jugg5.
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post Apr 6 2017, 22:06
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 6 2017, 19:32) *

At what point should I try to IW armor for Juggernaught (as in start burning amesia shards or just send piece out for IW service)? At a certain level? Certain gear quality?


Yeah I agree with the expert above. But for 1h melee with power armors, it's not really needed to get jug5, is it? Equips can give END bonus, and with the block and parry you don't get much incoming damage.
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post Apr 6 2017, 22:11
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I've just recently started creating monsters in the lab and I've got two quick questions:

1. If I "mess up" stat/upgrade distribution on a monster and want to recreate a monster with the same name, can I just rename that first monster to whatever and then create a new one with the same name the first one previously had?

2. It's always better to spend chaos tokens for unlocking new slots rather than upgrading, right? I don't know how much monster level influences the quality of their "gifts", but since my first-ever gift from my first monster was a Binding of the Cheetah, I'm guessing it's pretty random (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 6 2017, 22:33
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QUOTE(friggo @ Apr 6 2017, 22:11) *

2. It's always better to spend chaos tokens for unlocking new slots rather than upgrading, right? I don't know how much monster level influences the quality of their "gifts", but since my first-ever gift from my first monster was a Binding of the Cheetah, I'm guessing it's pretty random (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

it is. especially if you plan to keep an army of small fry (i mean PL25s), you should focus on unlocking new slots.
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post Apr 6 2017, 22:43
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Apr 6 2017, 21:49) *

Gear quality I'd say.
At long as the gear is worth 100+k I'd try to get at least some jugg.
If it's 500+k and we are talking about mage I would always go for jugg5.

I'm a dark mage, in which case, would it be better/eaiser to try for Jug 5 on my own or to give to soemone for IW service? As for gear, not sure if I have anything worth it to IW considering Amnesia shards are like 15k ea or so and there like 8 different potencies possible, I have this piece, not sure if worth IWing since it's a cotton shirt
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post Apr 6 2017, 22:58
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 6 2017, 22:43) *

I'm a dark mage, in which case, would it be better/eaiser to try for Jug 5 on my own or to give to soemone for IW service? As for gear, not sure if I have anything worth it to IW considering Amnesia shards are like 15k ea or so and there like 8 different potencies possible, I have this piece, not sure if worth IWing since it's a cotton shirt
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c45805c6fd

since it's a cotton and not a phase, you may try to unlock Jug1 with forge. upgrade all the relevant stats until you unlock lv1: if it's Jug, go on. otherwise, reforge. eventually go on with forging. at that point, if you can bear with it then IW it by yourself. otherwise, go ask vivikinomoto.

btw, nice shirt. it has a good prof roll.

[edit]: oh, and an elemental prefix means 7 possible potencies. your chances of earning Jug just raised by 14% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Apr 6 2017, 23:27
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 6 2017, 22:43) *

I'm a dark mage, in which case, would it be better/eaiser to try for Jug 5 on my own or to give to soemone for IW service?

It really depends.
Doing IW yourself will always cost less than having someone else do it, but doing IW as a dark mage will probably mean no IWBTH so you will probably need a lot of time.
It all depends, you want speed or cost?
If you want fast IW use a service, otherwise do it yourself when you have nothing better to do.
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post Apr 7 2017, 00:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 6 2017, 22:58) *

since it's a cotton and not a phase, you may try to unlock Jug1 with forge. upgrade all the relevant stats until you unlock lv1: if it's Jug, go on. otherwise, reforge. eventually go on with forging. at that point, if you can bear with it then IW it by yourself. otherwise, go ask vivikinomoto.

btw, nice shirt. it has a good prof roll.

[edit]: oh, and an elemental prefix means 7 possible potencies. your chances of earning Jug just raised by 14% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Apr 6 2017, 23:27) *

It really depends.
Doing IW yourself will always cost less than having someone else do it, but doing IW as a dark mage will probably mean no IWBTH so you will probably need a lot of time.
It all depends, you want speed or cost?
If you want fast IW use a service, otherwise do it yourself when you have nothing better to do.

Ok, so it is worth trying for Jug? In that case I'll try to upgrade it for the first potency before resorting to IW if I can. And what difficulty should I do IW at? I can do IWBTH arenas fine (survivbilty wise, still takes me ~10mins for trio and the tree and 40-45 for DwD) but I know mobs increase in strength each round as well...and then there's the fact that doing IW means I can't have my shirt equiped so I lose a ton of prof factor so my I'll lose damage on top of that. However I don't want to do IW at too easy of a difficulty since that I lose out on that meany arena worth of rounds for that day.
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post Apr 7 2017, 06:37
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Level 176. Date 4/7/2017.

First Magnificent drop. Leather Leggings. Best piece I've ever received. I do have a 2h+leather persona. So how best to handle this thing?
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post Apr 7 2017, 07:24
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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Apr 7 2017, 06:37) *

Level 176. Date 4/7/2017.

First Magnificent drop. Leather Leggings. Best piece I've ever received. I do have a 2h+leather persona. So how best to handle this thing?


Equip it, maybe? Nothing else I can think of. And then next step I suggest you look for a rapier and shield to go with that leather.
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post Apr 7 2017, 08:03
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I was reading up on loot drop rolls on the wiki and have I understood correctly that the Luck of the Draw training doesn't affect weapon drop rate or quality in any way?
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post Apr 7 2017, 08:05
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I was reading up on loot drop rolls on the wiki and have I understood correctly that the Luck of the Draw training doesn't affect weapon drop rate or quality in any way?


Yes that is correct. Only the type of weapon is slightly infuenced. But only very slightly. Don't invest untill you have lots of income.
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post Apr 7 2017, 12:38
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if you want to IW equipment, just check vivi's thread, he/she is the best one.
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post Apr 7 2017, 15:20
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How does specific mitigation works in defense stats? I want to understand why my DW Light persona is more fragile than my 1H heavy. Their physical mitigation is not that different., only 8% difference.
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post Apr 7 2017, 15:39
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Apr 7 2017, 20:20) *

How does specific mitigation works in defense stats? I want to understand why my DW Light persona is more fragile than my 1H heavy. Their physical mitigation is not that different., only 8% difference.


0% block. thats all.
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post Apr 7 2017, 15:50
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Apr 7 2017, 15:20) *

How does specific mitigation works in defense stats? I want to understand why my DW Light persona is more fragile than my 1H heavy. Their physical mitigation is not that different., only 8% difference.

they are added multiplicatively. let's pick a physical attack. first of all, chance for it to land on you is:
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chance = (1 - evade) * (1 - block) * (1 - parry)

usually with 1H you have negligible evade, good block and decent parry. with DW Shade you have 0 block, good evade and good parry.
once the attack lands (which we'll suppose being a crushing type), the damage is:
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damage = something_related_to_mob's_stats * (1 - PMI) * (1 - Crushing)

obviously, the higher the mitigations, the better. in particular, Void specific resistante will be 0 for everyone - so no chance to mitigate a Void attack for anyone, apart for PMI or MMI. Piercing will be 0 for Shade users, so it can be assimilated to Void.

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0% block. thats all.

actually if your Evade is high enough, it's not that big of a difference. if your block and evade are comparable, then all the difference in safety is to be imputed to counter-stuns. i guess.
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