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post Mar 27 2017, 17:39
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In my opinion, you should use Super's Income Summary and experiment to see which level gives you the best result.

It varies a bunch between personas, equipment, levels, perks, training, etc.
And of course, that's where the debates begin on which is the best route.

And it's going to change as you level up and change equipment, acquire perks, etc.

For example, just 2 months ago, it was more profitable for my persona to tackle every single arena.
Today, only the bottom 3 make sense to farm trophies, and the rest of my time better in grind fest.

If you play alot, I do recommend you stay on Level Hell or above due to trying to keep up with that 1,000 rounds.
I never found a way to keep up with it except manually. Complete pain. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Sorry if this is a stupid question but how exactly do I use the income summary? It's not very specific.
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post Mar 27 2017, 17:45
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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4029359 Install this script and manually input the market price for each item in the WTS (draughts, potions etc). Before you start an arena, you go to your inventory and use the Income Summary script to save a screenshot of it. It then compares the after arena outcome and the before arena outcome. It looks at how many potions you use, and the cost of each consumable is added up. Then the cost (consumables used) is weighed against the profit (credits earned, items earned, price of salvaged materials from junk items). It shows you if you should be playing on a higher or a lower difficulty to gain more profit. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4225448
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post Mar 27 2017, 18:08
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=60703cb7a0

Should I sell this on equipment store or is it worth something?
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post Mar 27 2017, 18:30
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Check ADB here on the wiki: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/equipment_ranges

Take the base value (mouse over the attack damage) and subtract the minimum value on the wiki. Then take the maximum minus the minimum value on the wiki, and divide the result of the base value - min value by the max - min and multiply by 100. The axe is 13% ADB. Usually one would say that you're better off just salvaging it, but you might want to try selling it in a shop in WTS or something, since it's fairly low levelled. Not too sure if you could sell it in an auction, since it seems that most auctions want a legendary quality minimum. Worst case scenario, you could still get a High Grade Metal from salvaging, although those are pretty cheap in WTS compared to High Grade Cloth. Usually, selling to bazaar is worse than salvaging it, since you can sell the salvaged materials here on the forum or just use it yourself to upgrade equipment.

My personal opinion is that it's unlikely to sell on the forum, since free equipment is given out at free shops and stuff.

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post Mar 28 2017, 00:11
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For best results the equipment we use should be well maintained and be of a level equal to, or as close to, one's player level as possible. What is the point where the difference between equip. lvl. and player lvl. is risky/unhealthy? What's the spread?
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It's pretty fluid, both for lower-level players and higher-level players. Lower-level players play on a somewhat elastic difficulty curve regardless (maybe Hell, maybe Nintendo, maybe Nightmare) and not switching out equipment may eventually force you down a difficulty - but there's no fixed point. It depends on the quality of the equips you already have, their forge level, and your perks.

Higher level players often play on PF, but have good enough equipment and have enough level scaling that equipment below their level won't actually hurt them much. At worst, their clear speed will be somewhat lower (again, on a fluid scale). But high level players almost always soulfuse gears they're going to be using seriously, so it's rarely an issue.

You're looking for an exact answer, but the question doesn't have one.

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post Mar 28 2017, 01:08
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 27 2017, 15:11) *

Ask the Experts thread

It's pretty fluid, both for lower-level players and higher-level players. Lower-level players play on a somewhat elastic difficulty curve regardless (maybe Hell, maybe Nintendo, maybe Nightmare) and not switching out equipment may eventually force you down a difficulty - but there's no fixed point. It depends on the quality of the equips you already have, their forge level, and your perks.

Higher level players often play on PF, but have good enough equipment and have enough level scaling that equipment below their level won't actually hurt them much. At worst, their clear speed will be somewhat lower (again, on a fluid scale). But high level players almost always soulfuse gears they're going to be using seriously, so it's rarely an issue.

You're looking for an exact answer, but the question doesn't have one.

Thank you.
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post Mar 28 2017, 02:16
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If I max out one PAB with Precursor Artifacts, will it skip that PAB and move to the next PAB/item or will it waste the artifact?

I also noticed that on the EHWiki, the PXP modifier for PFUDOR is the same as IWBTH (x16), but when I took a look at some of Vivi's IW service logs, it shows PFUDOR(x20). Which one is it, x16 or x20?
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:14
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QUOTE(fihero @ Mar 27 2017, 17:16) *

If I max out one PAB with Precursor Artifacts, will it skip that PAB and move to the next PAB/item or will it waste the artifact?

I also noticed that on the EHWiki, the PXP modifier for PFUDOR is the same as IWBTH (x16), but when I took a look at some of Vivi's IW service logs, it shows PFUDOR(x20). Which one is it, x16 or x20?


I went on artifact buying binges a few times, maxing out my PABs.
The maxed PABs just stopped showing up as the PABs maxed.
And yes.... my percentage of EDs increased after the PABs were maxed out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
No Precursor Artifacts went unused or wasted.
I've done it 3 or 4 times. (Edit: 3 or 4 times using 80 or more Artifacts "after" the PABs were Maxed)
You're safe.

I'm pretty sure PFUDOR is still 16X/32X as stated, but I'm not 100%.
Vivi has done so many IWs, it makes me doubt myself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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post Mar 28 2017, 09:39
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QUOTE(fihero @ Mar 28 2017, 00:16) *

If I max out one PAB with Precursor Artifacts, will it skip that PAB and move to the next PAB/item or will it waste the artifact?

I also noticed that on the EHWiki, the PXP modifier for PFUDOR is the same as IWBTH (x16), but when I took a look at some of Vivi's IW service logs, it shows PFUDOR(x20). Which one is it, x16 or x20?


X20 is experience modifier, not Potency XP modifier.

What I really want to ask is:
Why do so many applicants for my start-up pack keep sending me MM without posting?
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Isn't it clear enough? How can I improve my words, or prevent same thing from happening again?
Thanks for you help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 28 2017, 10:13
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Post here to apply for the startup pack.
Send me a MoogleMail in addition to your post if you want it more quickly.

Maybe try splitting it up like that, otherwise people think they only need to MM you for the fast startup pack.
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post Mar 28 2017, 10:26
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QUOTE(ArbiterErii @ Mar 28 2017, 09:39) *

What I really want to ask is:
Why do so many applicants for my start-up pack keep sending me MM without posting?

Isn't it clear enough? How can I improve my words, or prevent same thing from happening again?

no post, no party.
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post Mar 28 2017, 13:06
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Ok, a longer question that I didn't find answered on the wiki but hinted at with posts

Which battle types are best used for farming specific things?

Tokens mainly drop from arenas I thought (getting 5 Blood tokens/day for FPM seems not that easy then with at least 5 Arenas or lluck)

Credits probably arenas?

What do people grind IW/GF for (expect crystals for the last one) or better what are the reasons for IWBT IW/GF over Arenas?

(And similar trains of thoughts) so it may be easier to ask what to grind for what and why?

(If there are major differences for specific level ranges it would be nice to know for future use not only my own level range. Thanks
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post Mar 28 2017, 13:36
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QUOTE(Orion-Guardian @ Mar 28 2017, 22:06) *

Tokens mainly drop from arenas I thought (getting 5 Blood tokens/day for FPM seems not that easy then with at least 5 Arenas or lluck)

For the higher level arenas, (second page) you are given one as a completion bonus. This makes up the bulk majority of tokens you get from arena.

QUOTE(Orion-Guardian @ Mar 28 2017, 22:06) *

Credits probably arenas?

What do people grind IW/GF for (expect crystals for the last one) or better what are the reasons for IWBT IW/GF over Arenas?

(And similar trains of thoughts) so it may be easier to ask what to grind for what and why?

(If there are major differences for specific level ranges it would be nice to know for future use not only my own level range. Thanks

GF is for those with +crystal drop perks and +token drop perks, standard fest give 0.5 ~ 0.6 crystal packs so pay off rate for those perks is very slow. 60~ runs @ 34k/pack for the first then increasing up to 323~ runs for the final level.

Peerless IW gives best exp per stamina spent (except SG Arenas). IWBTH is run for maximum time efficiency (see income summary) while sacrificing loot quality. Mostly people just resort to grindfests after exhausting everything else.

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post Mar 28 2017, 15:17
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 28 2017, 13:36) *

For the higher level arenas, (second page) you are given one as a completion bonus. This makes up the bulk majority of tokens you get from arena.

Only the last 4 or something like that have a guaranteed token drop.
I think I remember a statistic about token drops for arenas but it's not in the wiki and I don't remember where I've read it.

QUOTE(kyouri @ Mar 28 2017, 13:36) *
Peerless IW gives best exp per stamina spent (except SG Arenas). IWBTH is run for maximum time efficiency (see income summary) while sacrificing loot quality. Mostly people just resort to grindfests after exhausting everything else.

I'd say that 80, 90 and 100 rounds arena give better exp/stamina spent since their multiplier is higher.
110 and 125 arenas are not very good since their average monster number is lower.
And full perked grinders probably have a better income in fests than in most arenas.
Fests also give a ton of PAs compared to arenas (avg monster per round is way higher).
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post Mar 28 2017, 15:34
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hello, everyone.

I prefer using vanilla reloader because it doesnt need tampermonkey to run.

is there a script to auto click the "go to the next round" for vanilla reloader, i can only find for the reloader with tampermonkey,

even in compedium thread mostly script for reloader with tampermonkey,


ps : tampermonkey slow me down. old laptop.
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post Mar 28 2017, 15:41
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Mar 28 2017, 15:34) *

hello, everyone.

I prefer using vanilla reloader because it doesnt need tampermonkey to run.

is there a script to auto click the "go to the next round" for vanilla reloader, i can only find for the reloader with tampermonkey,

even in compedium thread mostly script for reloader with tampermonkey,
ps : tampermonkey slow me down. old laptop.

Press space?
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post Mar 28 2017, 16:15
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Good to soulfuse or should I reforge? Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of Heimdall

btw, from when shield can`t get jug?

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post Mar 28 2017, 16:47
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Mar 28 2017, 08:13) *

Post here to apply for the startup pack.
Send me a MoogleMail in addition to your post if you want it more quickly.

Maybe try splitting it up like that, otherwise people think they only need to MM you for the fast startup pack.

Good advice~ Thanks, I'll modify it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2017, 08:26) *

no post, no party.

Nice One (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 28 2017, 16:53
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 28 2017, 16:15) *

btw, from when shield can`t get jug?

hmmm... i never heard they could, personally...

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post Mar 28 2017, 16:56
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2017, 17:53) *

hmmm... i never heard they could, personally...


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