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It's true that monsters have lower native resistance against Holy and Dark, but Imperil is also less effective with Holy and Dark than for elemental. And for low-level players, Imperil is essential. Holy/Dark also has significantly longer cast time than elemental, which is a big disadvantage for low-level players. (elemental is also generally cheaper than even "moderately decent" holy/dark)

So if you want to mage, I'd say to pick an elemental element, maybe whichever one you have a few decent equips in (if any). They're all similar enough not to worry about differences.

Try to get to 0.68+ prof_factor after forging with prof equips, and fill the rest of your slots with phase of your element. (if you're poor, using 2 big slots for prof isn't a bad idea either)

You could also try 1h mage instead if you have trouble with incoming damage, but that's a whole different topic.

In summary my Equipment sucks and I need to focus on a specific equip and attack type.

pretty much. but don't forget ability tree is a mess either (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Wouldn't Holy be better than Elec, since most monster and Legendaries in Arenas don't have as much defense against Holy?

apart for the reasons described by latanium, there's also a problem about the cost. holy gears are damn expensive. another user showed that all elements are pretty much the same, if you imperil (well, probably Holy/Dark will still have the upper edge against SGs, but let's look at an average use). going for cheap styles may be another option.

Is haste useful for mage?

Is haste useful for mage?

Pretty much mandatory.

Just when I get a half decent radiant robe a better one appears the very next week :<

Is +4.3 (And scaling) EDB difference worth the 30m~+ upgrade cost? hmm....

This post has been edited by kyouri: Mar 2 2017, 16:53

Is +4.3 (And scaling) EDB difference worth the 30m~+ upgrade cost? hmm....

let others deal with that and start selling popcorn imo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Just when I get a half decent radiant robe a better one appears the very next week :<

Is +4.3 (And scaling) EDB difference worth the 30m~+ upgrade cost? hmm....

You didn't even get jug5, go for the new one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Just when I get a half decent radiant robe a better one appears the very next week :<

Is +4.3 (And scaling) EDB difference worth the 30m~+ upgrade cost? hmm....

if you earn 30m in a couple of weeks, why not? If you don't: I'd say use your new one for a while until it pays back what you paid for it.

Empty quotes break the forum. (Try quoting your post)

Sry about the empty quotes, won't happen again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

It's true that monsters have lower native resistance against Holy and Dark, but Imperil is also less effective with Holy and Dark than for elemental. And for low-level players, Imperil is essential. Holy/Dark also has significantly longer cast time than elemental, which is a big disadvantage for low-level players. (elemental is also generally cheaper than even "moderately decent" holy/dark)

I currently have Holy Imperil in abilities which will help, if I go HolyMage. I really like getting
Ether Theft via Soul Fire via Holy Attack. Is there a way of getting Ether Theft via any Elements?

So if you want to mage, I'd say to pick an elemental element, maybe whichever one you have a few decent equips in (if any). They're all similar enough not to worry about differences.

I've decided whatever good equip of either Holy, Elec or Wind the game gives me will be the specialty I'll become, that way the some of my existing equip will be of use. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Isn't my Magnificent Ethereal Redwood Staff of the Elementalist ok, till I get better? (If I go with an Element)

Try to get to 0.68+ prof_factor after forging with prof equips,

I'm sorry I don't understand, does "prof" mean Proficiency? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Equipment proficiency factor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Lets say I go Elec, and keep my Exquisite Charged Phase Cap of Mjolnir till I get something better.
Are you saying I upgrade its "Spell Damage Elec +34.80" till it is +68% ?
Sorry I'm clueless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and fill the rest of your slots with phase of your element. (if you're poor, using 2 big slots for prof isn't a bad idea either)

I'm assuming your referring to Equipment Slots?

(if you're poor, using 2 big slots for prof isn't a bad idea either)

What are "2 big slots" and again is "prof" proficiency? If it is I'm still lost. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You could also try 1h mage instead if you have trouble with incoming damage, but that's a whole different topic.

My 2nd Persona is 1h mage Legendary Hallowed Rapier of the Vampire or Exquisite Wakizashi of the Battlecaster
with Exquisite Agile Buckler of the Battlecaster)

Sry I'll so clueless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I just want to quit, I'm so confused. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
I'll understand if you don't reply, I want to shoot myself for being so ignorant! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Mar 3 2017, 00:25

What are "2 big slots"

Every Armor Slot has a different multiplier, in this order:
1.2 Body
1.1 Legs
1.0 Head
0.9 Hands
0.8 Feet
This makes the base stats different for each slot.

The big slots are Body (Robe) and Legs (Pants).

With Robe+Pants probably even with Mag gear you'll reach the needed proficiency.

and again is "prof" proficiency? If it is I'm still lost. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Yes.

1. I currently have Holy Imperil in abilities which will help, if I go HolyMage. I really like getting
Ether Theft via Soul Fire via Holy Attack. Is there a way of getting Ether Theft via any Elements?
2. I've decided whatever good equip of either Holy, Elec or Wind the game gives me will be the specialty I'll become, that way the some of my existing equip will be of use. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
3. Isn't my Magnificent Ethereal Redwood Staff of the Elementalist ok, till I get better? (If I go with an Element)
4. I'm sorry I don't understand, does "prof" mean Proficiency? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Equipment proficiency factor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1. no, but you won't need it too much. ether tap already halves the mana needed for your spells, just be sure to hit the mobs with such effect
2. good. now, try to assemble a proper build
3. ethereal prefix is bad for any mage since it doesn't boost EDB. feel free to use it for a while, but i guess even an Exq matching may be better
4. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/proficiency#Effects

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3. ethereal prefix is bad for any mage since it doesn't boost EDB. feel free to use it for a while, but i guess even an Exq matching may be better

THANKS AGAIN for your help. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Weapon Prefixes
_ Ethereal:
__ Have no interference or burden.
__ Does Void damage, which is significantly better than crushing/slashing/piercing on most boss-class or higher monsters.
__ Gives Void Strike effect (same as Elemental Strike except the damage type is void)
__ __ At level 10 potency such weapons gain a random Elemental Strike (in addition to the existing Void Strike)
__ __ Still affects monsters having their physical defenses reduced (i.e. Penetrated Armor).

I couldn't find any wiki on EDB except Level_Scaling, but I assume you mean there is no EDB (ElementDmgBonus) when using the staff as a strike weapon (attack) because it HITS as Void weapon. But when I'm CASTING spells while staff is equipped, I still get my Staff's: "Magic Damage +379.65, Magic Accuracy +11.66%, Magic Crit Chance +5.27%, Spell Damage: Fire +24.24, Cold +16.89, Elec +19.04, Wind +19.04". Right?

Also does "level 10 potency such weapons gain a random Elemental Strike" mean using Item World 10 times? and would that then get EDB?

This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Mar 3 2017, 01:39

I couldn't find any wiki on EDB except Level_Scaling, but I assume you mean there is no EDB (ElementDmgBonus) when using the staff as a strike weapon (attack) because it HITS as Void weapon. But when I'm CASTING spells while staff is equipped, I still get the Staff's: "Magic Damage +379.65, Magic Accuracy +11.66%, Magic Crit Chance +5.27%, Spell Damage: Fire +24.24, Cold +16.89, Elec +19.04, Wind +19.04". Rigth?

the thing when you're going as a mage is that what matters are EDB and MDB. there isn't a build which allows you to cast Void spells (otherwise it would be too OP), so you have to pick an element.
staffs can boost both your EDB and MDB, and you reach the maximum if their prefix (which gives EDB), slot type (which gives MDB, proficiency and should give EDB) and suffix (which may give either MDB or EDB) match.
ethereal prefix doesn't match with anything, therefore it's a good amount of EDB that you won't recieve.
the fact that it deals void damage is unrelevant, since you won't use it that way.
taking your specific example, let's suppose that staff is, saying, an arctic redwood: it may give you something like 24 Fire EDB (useless for you, since you use Elec spells), 19 Elec EDB (as above), 19 Wind EDB (as above) and, saying, 42 Cold EDB. it's a huge improvement.
btw, this means that prefix (Cold EDB) and slot name (Redwood, thus good for all elementals) match. another boost could be reached, saying, with Destruction suffix (which would boost MDB, good for all mages) or Niflheim suffix (which would boost Cold EDB), in which case you'd have a matching staff. such things can be very expensive, btw.

Also does "level 10 potency such weapons gain a random Elemental Strike" mean using Item World 10 times? and would that then get EDB?

a bit more than 10 times. something like 16 or 17, iirc - at IWTBH difficulty.
and no, no EDB with IW. the elemental strike is for melee use only. it means that when you'll whack your wooden cane on the head of those mobs, they'll be hit by void and, saying, cold strikes.
you can still earn MDB though.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 3 2017, 01:48

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btw, this means that prefix (Cold EDB) and slot name (Redwood, thus good for all elementals) match. another boost could be reached, saying, with Destruction suffix (which would boost MDB, good for all mages) or Niflheim suffix (which would boost Cold EDB), in which case you'd have a matching staff. such things can be very expensive, btw.
a bit more than 10 times. something like 16 or 17, iirc - at IWTBH difficulty.
and no, no EDB with IW. the elemental strike is for melee use only. it means that when you'll whack your wooden cane on the head of those mobs, they'll be hit by void and, saying, cold strikes.
you can still earn MDB though.

Thanks that really clears things up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
So if I go it right then an Example of good equip for a Mage specializing in Electric Element:
__ Peer/Leg/Mag/Exq Shocking Redwood Staff of Mjolnir
__ Peer/Leg/Mag/Exq Charged/Frugal/Radiant/Mystic Phase/Cotton Cap/Robe/Gloves/Pants/Shoes of Mjolnir
or Holy Mage
__ Peer/Leg/Mag/Exq Hallowed Redwood/Oak Staff of Heimdall
__ Peer/Leg/Mag/Exq Charged/Frugal/Radiant/Mystic Phase/Cotton Cap/Robe/Gloves/Pants/Shoes of Heimdall

and I now understand why Tenboro voided Void Spells. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Mar 3 2017, 02:59

excuse me,
how do you know if youre being quoted?
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Thanks that really clears things up. and I now understand why Tenboro voided Void Spells. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

it's simply because it would make the game too unbalanced. only Void mages would exist.

plus, these are only very basic infos. i usually play as a melee, so some mage may want to add something.

excuse me,
how do you know if youre being quoted?
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maybe by subscribing to the topic? or by enabling email notifications of replies? but i'm not sure whether that function picks only the answer to your specific post or goes ballistic and notifies you avout *every* answer on that thread.
if it isn't one of these (which i never tested, btw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), then i don't think you can.

why do you need it, if i may ask?

it's simply because it would make the game too unbalanced. only Void mages would exist.

plus, these are only very basic infos. i usually play as a melee, so some mage may want to add something.
maybe by subscribing to the topic? or by enabling email notifications of replies? but i'm not sure whether that function picks only the answer to your specific post or goes ballistic and notifies you avout *every* answer on that thread.
if it isn't one of these (which i never tested, btw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), then i don't think you can.

why do you need it, if i may ask?

just check my previous posts and realized there are people quoting to ask about things. totally missed it.

I have unlock IA 1&2, should I aim for slot 3 as well? is it financially wise for me to do so? My source of credits are only grinding and selling drops.

You could think of IA as a convenience thing: If you have it, you don't have to constantly rebuff whenever buffs run out. If you're too poor to get it without spending a lot, there isn't a real need to get it. But it's certainly recommended, since you don't have to think too much about refreshing buffs and the like whenever you're doing something like an arena or grindfest.

I have unlock IA 1&2, should I aim for slot 3 as well? is it financially wise for me to do so? My source of credits are only grinding and selling drops.

It's an option, but at your level I don't think it's worth it. You'll get it eventually, but until your income is higher, I'd focus on saving for higher-tier equips that become available past level 300 first, until you get a solid set to start with.

On the other hand, medium-tier low-level equips aren't that expensive, so after factoring in soul fragment cost, if you have 500k available for each slot already, that's probably good enough, so there's no problem getting IA3 if you have the funds.