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Feb 15 2017, 18:07
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,160
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 16:58)  So far I'm trying to just spam the last mob remaining with weaken until it kills itself on my spike shield Then rinse and repeat until the arena is done It might actually be fast enough, just checked that it's actually 30 prof This is my weapon btw http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f62b866faaMy fighting technique is "Hover over things until everything is dead", but the schoolgirls take like 30 seconds to die and it's a pain in the ass Sounds like you playing 1h heavy. That's wise at your level. If you play mage, the only thing that speeds up things at your level is going 1h heavy. Okay, but enough about that. SG. You need to be hard when facing schoolgirls. That's easy to remember! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The thing is, there is no business case for playing higher dificulty that Nintendo. It's a waste of stamina, that can be used for grinding grindfests. And hard is much faster than PFUDOR SG.
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Feb 15 2017, 18:07
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cmos
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,214
Joined: 17-March 10

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QUOTE(ctaglack @ Feb 15 2017, 18:57)  you can read a book for a few hours
Tenboro fixed that "exploit" long time ago so you can't grind prof that easy. Nowadays monsters start getting significantly stronger if the round lasts way too long, so they will kill you eventually even on normal.
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Feb 15 2017, 18:09
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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So is it worth it in the end to use imperil or should I just go back to wasting my time with general hovering
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Feb 15 2017, 18:12
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,160
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 17:09)  So is it worth it in the end to use imperil or should I just go back to wasting my time with general hovering
Imperil is a little help at PFUDOR. But the thing is, what are your goals? What do you want to achieve? Wasting time can be done in any way you like. But if you want better drops, more credits, even more credits, or higher clear speed then imperil is not your priority. I'd say you need better equip first. Or a couple of nice perks. So what are you aiming for?
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Feb 15 2017, 18:13
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Rhydin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 884
Joined: 5-June 15

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 17:09)  So is it worth it in the end to use imperil or should I just go back to wasting my time with general hovering
I'd say grind 30 Deprecating prof, as that shouldn't take exceptionally long. Then try it in an SG arena run and see if cleartime changes notibly, and youll have your answer. Also, don't forget about infusions. An additional Holy/Dark Strike with every single attack should actually add up over an entire arena run, and infusions are dirt cheap (if you actually have to buy them at all).
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Feb 15 2017, 18:15
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tganimation6
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 709
Joined: 8-December 16

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Dep prof is impt in general. Imperil is used in many playstyles. V versatile. If you need more damage, just slap it on, boom, almost doubling damage.
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Feb 15 2017, 18:20
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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I just want a playstyle that allows me to grind for exp while paying as little attention to the game as possible tbh
I'm just running for that sweet lv 350 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I play on Nintendo when doing the 90-125 round arenas, IWBTH for the shorter ones
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Feb 15 2017, 18:23
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tganimation6
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 709
Joined: 8-December 16

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If that's the case, I'll recommend Imperil even more. Upgrade its abilities and slot them. Big diff. Before, when I wasn't using it, had to drink 3 pots and use a mana draught for a nintendo 10 monster RE. With imperil, no pots.
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Feb 15 2017, 18:23
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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I already use no pots on REs, and I do those on PFUDOR I'm just looking for ways of improving my arena times
Only other thing that comes to mind is the friendship cannon, but that thing is useless against schoolgirl targets
This post has been edited by Striborg: Feb 15 2017, 18:24
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Feb 15 2017, 18:27
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tganimation6
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 709
Joined: 8-December 16

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Imperil generally reduces mitigations, though. Lowered mit= more damage= faster clear time. I'll still recommend Imperil. Friendship Cannon is useful for clearing large groups.
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Feb 15 2017, 18:36
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Rhydin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 884
Joined: 5-June 15

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 17:20)  I just want a playstyle that allows me to grind for exp while paying as little attention to the game as possible tbh
I'm just running for that sweet lv 350 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I play on Nintendo when doing the 90-125 round arenas, IWBTH for the shorter ones
QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 17:23)  I already use no pots on REs, and I do those on PFUDOR I'm just looking for ways of improving my arena times
Only other thing that comes to mind is the friendship cannon, but that thing is useless against schoolgirl targets
If you're not doing standard arenas at IWBTH/PFUDOR yet, worrying about SG arenas isn't really your top priority right now. Improving your "EXP earned/time spent" means clearing standard arenas at the highest difficulty. For that purpose, you should look into buying a new weapon (Mag or Leg quality & Slaughter suffix). Also get your Block as high as possible (less damage taken, less Cures, more Counters --> faster clears). Force Shield with >36 base Block and a decent amount of forging (15-25, depending on budget) should do the trick. Full Power Armor, mostly Protection suffix (additional ADB, total burden <70). As for SG arenas, I suggest you to change your approach for the time being. Go with a lower difficulty like Hellto earn trophies quickly. Sell them and improve your equipment so you can do arenas on PFUDOR. Only after that it is time to look deeper into SG arenas. This post has been edited by Rhydin: Feb 15 2017, 18:37
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Feb 15 2017, 18:47
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DCFulano
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,157
Joined: 27-March 10

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 15 2017, 04:00)  the sum of P values + Fatality potencies. for example, i know that for DW Shade is 85% and for 1H Power is 82% - non level-dependant, since Crit Damage doesn't scale with level.
Ohh, nice. Thanks
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Feb 15 2017, 19:00
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Feb 15 2017, 17:36)  If you're not doing standard arenas at IWBTH/PFUDOR yet, worrying about SG arenas isn't really your top priority right now. Improving your "EXP earned/time spent" means clearing standard arenas at the highest difficulty. For that purpose, you should look into buying a new weapon (Mag or Leg quality & Slaughter suffix). Also get your Block as high as possible (less damage taken, less Cures, more Counters --> faster clears). Force Shield with >36 base Block and a decent amount of forging (15-25, depending on budget) should do the trick. Full Power Armor, mostly Protection suffix (additional ADB, total burden <70).
As for SG arenas, I suggest you to change your approach for the time being. Go with a lower difficulty like Hellto earn trophies quickly. Sell them and improve your equipment so you can do arenas on PFUDOR. Only after that it is time to look deeper into SG arenas.
What should I be aiming for, budget-wise? I have about 3.5M and around 70ish of every SG trophy I already have a full suit of PA, LEG/MAG quality Weapon and shield could be improved I guess http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f62b866faahttp://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9d719447d6
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Feb 15 2017, 19:02
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cmos
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,214
Joined: 17-March 10

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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Feb 15 2017, 15:54)  A question in general, seeing as there were more than 2 downloads ... is there interest for me to flesh this out more and build a proper script out of it? Don't want to sink hours into it when it won't get used. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Sure, it's interesting to test something every now and then so a statistics script would be nice. Even better if it collected other statistics, or at least would be easier to use. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Feb 15 2017, 19:30
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Rhydin
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 884
Joined: 5-June 15

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 18:00)  What should I be aiming for, budget-wise? I have about 3.5M and around 70ish of every SG trophy I already have a full suit of PA, LEG/MAG quality Weapon and shield could be improved I guess http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f62b866faahttp://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9d719447d6Yes, both of these should be replaced, with your shield taking higher priority. Something like this would be much better, though you'd need to soulfuse it to use it right away. That is however true for many equipments, as availability tends to be an issue up to the medium 300's. As for Rapier, you'll definitely want one with Slaughter suffix and at least Mag quality. Also, while not a priority right now, you should aim for Holy/Dark prefix as well. Those will do well in standard arenas and shine in SG runs. 3.5m will be more than sufficient to get replacements for shield & weapon and even allow you to forge your new items some. If you're looking to sell SG trophies, check blackjac00's WTB. This post has been edited by Rhydin: Feb 15 2017, 19:31
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Feb 15 2017, 21:07
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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Soulfusing allows me to use a weapon of whatever level, right? Any downgrade to that, aside the obvious scaling?
All the legendary rapiers I can find are like lv450 I'm not finding anything usable by my puny level 280ish
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Feb 15 2017, 21:11
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Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,599
Joined: 27-November 13

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 19:07)  All the legendary rapiers I can find are like lv450 I'm not finding anything usable by my puny level 280ish There are a number of low-level Legendary rapiers, but they'll be expensive. Use SmartSearch to find them.
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Feb 15 2017, 21:19
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Scremaz
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,304
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 16:58)  So far I'm trying to just spam the last mob remaining with weaken until it kills itself on my spike shield Then rinse and repeat until the arena is done It might actually be fast enough, just checked that it's actually 30 prof This is my weapon btw http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f62b866faaMy fighting technique is "Hover over things until everything is dead", but the schoolgirls take like 30 seconds to die and it's a pain in the ass i got lost a bit, so maybe it has already been answered. however... 1. while you're at it, grind until 40 prof and unlock Silence. another useful spell. 2. do you use spirit stance? QUOTE(DJNoni @ Feb 15 2017, 17:07)  SG. You need to be hard when facing schoolgirls. That's easy to remember! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) well said. going against mikuru without poking her properly would be a waste (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 20:07)  Soulfusing allows me to use a weapon of whatever level, right? Any downgrade to that, aside the obvious scaling?
you won't be able to MM them anymore - which includes IWing, reforge services etc etc. whenever you find a replacement you couldn't sell it anymore, just salvage it. QUOTE(Striborg @ Feb 15 2017, 20:07)  All the legendary rapiers I can find are like lv450 I'm not finding anything usable by my puny level 280ish
depending on what you consider "usable", it's fine to either use the weapon you already have or even to change suffix. for example, for how useless it may be at higher levels, a Legendary Rapier of Vampire (just saying) has roughly the same ADB of an Exq Slaughter, but meanwhile it has 3 PABs and higher rolls on everything else.
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Feb 15 2017, 21:29
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Striborg
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 439
Joined: 6-June 11

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I don't really have enough of a drive to look too deep into this tbh If anyone has a rapier/shield that'll serve me faithfully until level 350 after being IW'd+soulbound, I'll just buy them here on the spot (*´ω`)o
Oh, I have no interest in resell value, so high level stuff that needs to be SB'd is perfectly fine. Rather, it's even better since it's gonna be cheaper.
This post has been edited by Striborg: Feb 15 2017, 21:30
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