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Feb 12 2017, 13:59
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Slobber
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doesn't take that much effort to set up a mage TBH.
crystal 2+3 don't really feel worth it considering today's market and amped's grinding habit (low) it would probably take amped 3+ years to make back all the investment for crystal 2+3. (it took me a long time... heck i still don't know if i made back all my investment for crystal 2+3)
+dmg is pretty nice IMO
actually since you're running 1h/shield i presume you have 21 pony figurines as well? do you have the manhatten perk yet? that *might* be a consideration? edit: mmm i guess 25k hath is a bit of a stretch
This post has been edited by Slobber: Feb 12 2017, 14:00
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Feb 12 2017, 14:05
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amped
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Feb 12 2017, 06:59)  doesn't take that much effort to set up a mage TBH.
crystal 2+3 don't really feel worth it considering today's market and amped's grinding habit (low) it would probably take amped 3+ years to make back all the investment for crystal 2+3. (it took me a long time... heck i still don't know if i made back all my investment for crystal 2+3)
+dmg is pretty nice IMO
actually since you're running 1h/shield i presume you have 21 pony figurines as well? do you have the manhatten perk yet? that *might* be a consideration? edit: mmm i guess 25k hath is a bit of a stretch
Actually no, I've got 11 currently I think. Is the orbital cannon worthwhile? I don't remember many people using it back when I played before (took a 2 year break) but I guess it's probably changed since then. 25k hath is maaaaaybe doable, but it would be a longer term goal, yeah. Mostly I just get a bunch of hath randomly from translations I do so it piles up. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Feb 12 2017, 14:18
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Noni
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QUOTE(amped @ Feb 12 2017, 12:15)  Any advice for what I should get next as a hath perk?
I've got 6k hath atm. The ones I've got already are: - Health and magic tank increases - Resplendent Regeneration - Soul Catcher - 2 levels of the exp increase one - 4 innate arcana - 1 Crystarium - 1 Tokenizer - Dæmon Duality
QUOTE(amped @ Feb 12 2017, 13:05)  Actually no, I've got 11 currently I think. Is the orbital cannon worthwhile? I don't remember many people using it back when I played before (took a 2 year break) but I guess it's probably changed since then. 25k hath is maaaaaybe doable, but it would be a longer term goal, yeah. Mostly I just get a bunch of hath randomly from translations I do so it piles up. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) OFC is certainly worth while! Unless you're playing mage, then it does nothing. But 1h heavy, go for it, it's so cheap! Perk: if you want to go mage, pick your element. And get the prof. perk for that element. And if you want to play imperil style (all but Holy, that is) then get the deprecating magic prof. perk also. If you want to continue 1h, get the free flowing dust.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:24
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tganimation6
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Personally, I feel that a strong case can be made for IA 5. Even if you don't use it, the mana savings can be helpful.
I would advise you to liquidate all the hath you end up not using, seeing as hath prices will continue to plunge as more and more cookies are given out to more accounts.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:26
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Slobber
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in order to fully appreciate HV i'd recommend trying melee and mage. proper 1h melee benefits a lot from OFC now as dj mentioned. figurines are cheap. you can trade 1 artifact per figurine nowadays more/less. (and you're already half way there)
didnt u buy some mage gear a while back?
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Feb 12 2017, 14:36
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amped
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Feb 12 2017, 07:26)  in order to fully appreciate HV i'd recommend trying melee and mage. proper 1h melee benefits a lot from OFC now as dj mentioned. figurines are cheap. you can trade 1 artifact per figurine nowadays more/less. (and you're already half way there)
didnt u buy some mage gear a while back?
I was considering it, but ended up switching from light armor to heavy instead. (I was still using a pretty sad set of light armor from 2 years ago (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) I've been hitting up some auctions hoping to score some good mage gear cheaply, but will probably have to throw some more credits into it if I actually want to win anything. I did play mage until level 200 but ended up being forced to switch at the time because of the sudden jump in enemy difficulty. 1H+shield is hard to give up since my overall best piece of gear in the game is my rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=76b9fc2e0fI do have this to work with as a mage http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=51d9303cd0 though I guess a slaughter might be better for today's play styles
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Feb 12 2017, 14:39
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zhen0n
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quick question: if I soulfuse a lower level equipment will it scale to my level? will it continue to scale as I level up?
thanks
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Feb 12 2017, 14:40
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tganimation6 @ Feb 12 2017, 12:24)  Personally, I feel that a strong case can be made for IA 5. Even if you don't use it, the mana savings can be helpful. I think I can prove the opposite by calculating the opportunity cost of a turn and the cost of mana, and measuring it against the ~5m cost of IA5 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) No time to do the calculation now, I think I did it before, but that's my suspicion.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:40
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High Rolla
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Feb 12 2017, 07:39)  quick question: if I soulfuse a lower level equipment will it scale to my level? will it continue to scale as I level up?
thanks
Yes it will, thats the whole point of soulfuse.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:41
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tganimation6
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@zhen Yep. Same for soulfusing higher leveled weapons. It scales down and levels with you. Check the wiki, ehwiki.org . @Super Hey, don't disprove my assumptions with math and economics! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by tganimation6: Feb 12 2017, 14:42
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Feb 12 2017, 14:42
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Slobber
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u don't have to give it up. some players alternate between the two styles. like you can use 1hand/shield for pfudor difficulty and mage for clearing hell difficulty or something like that. or 1hand/shield for RoB and RE while u use mage for the rest. stuff like that.
fidning the balance is up to the individual, of course.
think i mentioned a few weeks back that your staff might not be the ideal.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:44
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amped
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Feb 12 2017, 07:42)  u don't have to give it up. some players alternate between the two styles. like you can use 1hand/shield for pfudor difficulty and mage for clearing hell difficulty or something like that. or 1hand/shield for RoB and RE while u use mage for the rest. stuff like that.
fidning the balance is up to the individual, of course.
think i mentioned a few weeks back that your staff might not be the ideal.
Yeah, you did. Bummer since it was top-tier back when potions were limited. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Feb 12 2017, 14:46
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Superlatanium
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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4275108"At 2 turns/sec, that means you only need to play for around 1310 days straight for IA5 to pay off, assuming no food or drink or bathroom or sleep. It's quite solid." Note, my math is a little imprecise because I didn't factor in the cost of mana, and hath is also a bit cheaper nowadays, but it doesn't really affect the conclusion.
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Feb 12 2017, 14:53
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tganimation6
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That's essentially the opp cost of not needing to worry about rebuffing another buff, but seeing as a lot of players use scripts, it could be seen as negligible as well. Dang, so I wasted the 5 mil then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Feb 12 2017, 15:00
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Slobber
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ugh i feel like i've talked about IA like a broken record.
IA was always about the convenience =) to some, convenience is priceless.
the main exception was IA Spark since u can get a huge mana advantage for running SoL on IA and i guess the action benefits (since you don't have to spend turns to buff yourself which should lower your incoming dmg)
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Feb 12 2017, 15:00
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Superlatanium
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Don't worry, I got it too, even with full knowledge that it wasn't worth it and even though I usually use scrolls. For that, thank laziness and akrasia.
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Feb 12 2017, 15:16
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Feb 12 2017, 12:59)  do you have the manhatten perk yet? that *might* be a consideration? edit: mmm i guess 25k hath is a bit of a stretch
QUOTE(amped @ Feb 12 2017, 13:05)  25k hath is maaaaaybe doable, but it would be a longer term goal, yeah. Mostly I just get a bunch of hath randomly from translations I do so it piles up. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) afaik manehattan project doubles OFC damage. seeing that an OFC is enough to clear a round, i guess the only place in which you'll benefit about it may be against schoolgirls/FSM. i don't think it's worth if you don't play very much and on regular base.
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Feb 12 2017, 15:17
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amped
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Feb 12 2017, 08:00)  Don't worry, I got it too, even with full knowledge that it wasn't worth it and even though I usually use scrolls. For that, thank laziness and akrasia.
I'm pretty sure it used to be a lot more important when you could only take a limited number of potions into battle. I bought 4 back when I was scrimping for every mp point I could save.
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Feb 12 2017, 15:38
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Feb 12 2017, 14:00)  ugh i feel like i've talked about IA like a broken record.
IA was always about the convenience =) to some, convenience is priceless.
the main exception was IA Spark since u can get a huge mana advantage for running SoL on IA and i guess the action benefits (since you don't have to spend turns to buff yourself which should lower your incoming dmg)
For me, it's more than just convenience. It's a foolproof aswell. If you forget to renew scrolls or to recast, IA won't. Overall, IA ensures that I won't be sent to Oblivion due to a mistake of mine, on top of being very convenient and freeing my mind to focus on the actual battle rather than on the buffs.
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