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post Feb 2 2017, 02:13
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Feb 2 2017, 00:10) *
For my level, should I upgrade the block chance to what level? It's currently at 42.7%
Whatever you can spare, up until forge level 20 or so. More than that costs too many HGW for a player at your level, but upgrading to 15-20 is fine if you can.
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post Feb 2 2017, 02:15
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QUOTE(orsys @ Feb 2 2017, 08:11) *

Someone other than me can put it in the wiki. I can't decide how to do it since the (off_hand * 1.5) is for DW (or 1H with main hand empty and a weapon in off hand) but not for Niten.

Maybe put a little note for DW. With examples and all. Examples always help
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post Feb 2 2017, 02:17
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Trying to see what this is worth, and if it has value I will try to sell it or auction it on Super's auction.

Legendary Tempestuous Mace of Slaughter

Thanks for the info.
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post Feb 2 2017, 02:22
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QUOTE(guppieman @ Feb 2 2017, 01:17) *

Trying to see what this is worth, and if it has value I will try to sell it or auction it on Super's auction.

Legendary Tempestuous Mace of Slaughter

Thanks for the info.

Low, about 30-50k.
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post Feb 2 2017, 02:28
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QUOTE(orsys @ Feb 2 2017, 01:11) *

Someone other than me can put it in the wiki. I can't decide how to do it since the (off_hand * 1.5) is for DW (or 1H with main hand empty and a weapon in off hand) but not for Niten.

uhu. so, basically we have:

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Parry = 1 - (1 - main_hand) * (1 - off_hand * C) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
with:
main_hand = mainhand parry; 0 if 2H weapon
off_hand = offhand parry (only DW and Niten)
C = 1.5 if DW; 1 if Niten; 0 otherwise
total_DEX = DEX of the whole build
2H_prof = prof of 2H style if 2H; 0 otherwise


personally i wouldn't even consider unarmed or 1H with only offhand equipped since they are some kinds of oddities.

the other option is to make a dedicated formula for all styles, something like:
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1H: Parry = 1 - (1 - mainhand_parry) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004)
DW: Parry = 1 - (1 - mainhand_parry) * (1 - offhand_parry * 1.5) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004)
2H: Parry = 1 - (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
Niten: Parry = 1 - (1 - offhand_parry) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
Mage: Parry = total_DEX * 0.0004


i'm tempted to vote for the second one. any preference?

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post Feb 2 2017, 02:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 2 2017, 08:28) *

uhu. so, basically we have:

CODE
Parry = 1 - (1 - main_hand) * (1 - off_hand * C) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
with:
main_hand = mainhand parry; 0 if 2H weapon
off_hand = offhand parry (only DW and Niten)
C = 1.5 if DW; 1 if Niten; 0 otherwise
total_DEX = DEX of the whole build
2H_prof = prof of 2H style if 2H; 0 otherwise


personally i wouldn't even consider unarmed or 1H with only offhand equipped since they are some kinds of oddities.

the other option is to make a dedicated formula for all styles, something like:
CODE
1H: Parry = 1 - (1 - mainhand_parry) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004)
DW: Parry = 1 - (1 - mainhand_parry) * (1 - offhand_parry * 1.5) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004)
2H: Parry = 1 - (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
Niten: Parry = 1 - (1 - offhand_parry) * (1 - total_DEX * 0.0004) * (1 - 2H_prof * 0.00025)
Mage: Parry = total_DEX * 0.0004


i'm tempted to vote for the second one. any preference?

I vote for the second
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post Feb 2 2017, 04:26
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QUOTE(-Shun- @ Feb 1 2017, 23:55) *

Would it be weird to say I just wanna play HV for the sake of the grind, big numbers, stat upgrades and the loot? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Same for me except I've give up on my loot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Feb 2 2017, 04:34
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Hi

Im a returnee so my HV knowledge is a bit obsolete. I saw super's auction and im wondering how to compute EDB percentage and prof. Percentage is it some kind of script, I want to see if my equipment can still be of some use or I need to replace all of them ( I've noticed that newer phase have an added crushing mitigation)

2nd question, why is cotton so popular now for mages? In my day they go straight to bazzar but now they fill auctions like phase

Thanks and have a nice day

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post Feb 2 2017, 04:42
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Feb 2 2017, 02:34) *

Hi

Im a returnee so my HV knowledge is a bit obsolete. I saw super's auction and im wondering how to compute EDB percentage and prof. Percentage is it some kind of script, I want to see if my equipment can still be of some use or I need to replace all of them ( I've noticed that newer phase have an added crushing mitigation)

2nd question, why is cotton so popular now for mages? In my day they go straight to bazzar but now they fill auctions like phase

Thanks and have a nice day

You can install the Superlatanium's percentile ranges userscript https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4729147 which will automatically calculate and display it on the equip's stats page, you can also manually compute percentages by checking the equipment ranges wiki pages https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges looking at the base value min and max, and compare with your equip's base value to calculate the percentage.
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post Feb 2 2017, 05:22
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guys, i think i am having kind of a misunderstanding. please tell me if i am right or wrong.
overpower increase counter-parry right? so does it mean that when i parry the attack from the monster, i counter attack it with my current attack damage or i just reduce their parry chance?

and please tell me about this.
when i scroll my pointer to one of the status, it said base 7.xx something...
what does it means? what is the maximum of the base?
how do you determine whether its good status or bad?
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post Feb 2 2017, 08:23
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Feb 2 2017, 10:22) *

guys, i think i am having kind of a misunderstanding. please tell me if i am right or wrong.
overpower increase counter-parry right? so does it mean that when i parry the attack from the monster, i counter attack it with my current attack damage or i just reduce their parry chance?


Counter-parry is decrease chance of monster to parry you. (It is Anti-Parry)

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and please tell me about this.
when i scroll my pointer to one of the status, it said base 7.xx something...
what does it means? what is the maximum of the base?
how do you determine whether its good status or bad?

It's say the base status at level0 (which is same value regardless of the level of the equip). When the equip have level it will scale from this base value to current level value. (https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment)

To determine if the equipment good or not you need to look >>here<<
Also you can use following scripts to check it
Equipment Comparison : compare your equipment stats to the wiki
or Percentile Range : tell you where your specified stat of the equipment lie in the L-range by percentile.
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post Feb 2 2017, 08:31
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Feb 2 2017, 10:34) *

Hi

Im a returnee so my HV knowledge is a bit obsolete. I saw super's auction and im wondering how to compute EDB percentage and prof. Percentage is it some kind of script, I want to see if my equipment can still be of some use or I need to replace all of them ( I've noticed that newer phase have an added crushing mitigation)

2nd question, why is cotton so popular now for mages? In my day they go straight to bazzar but now they fill auctions like phase

Thanks and have a nice day

% is (a-lmin)/(lmax-lmin).
New phase rolls 0.5-3 multiplier higher than old ones and have at least 85% lmax roll so old phase mostly need replace.
Old gossamer retired so you need cotton for prof now.
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post Feb 2 2017, 08:49
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Couple more questions!

1. I seem unable to add Silence to my Quickbar. Do I need to train Deprecating proficiency to a certain level? If so, what's the best way to grind it?

2. As melee (1H + shield + light armor currently), is it worth it to cast Absorb? Arcane Focus?

3. What's the best elemental shield for my level? My current rapier has void strike + cold strike and I am using storm shield. Would it be better to use fire shield for the cold resist lower by 25 and damage reduction of 10%? Does that damage reduction work against spell casts, especially for higher difficulties?

Thanks!
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post Feb 2 2017, 09:14
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Feb 2 2017, 13:49) *

Couple more questions!

1. I seem unable to add Silence to my Quickbar. Do I need to train Deprecating proficiency to a certain level? If so, what's the best way to grind it?

The wiki says you need at least 40 deprecating proficiency to obtain it (not sure about the real number)
To grind for prof. just use any deprecating spell you have.
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2. As melee (1H + shield + light armor currently), is it worth it to cast Absorb? Arcane Focus?

Arcane Focus can not stack with Heart Seeker. Do not cast it.
If you proc channeling and other supportive spells still long lasting, absorb is not bad.
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3. What's the best elemental shield for my level? My current rapier has void strike + cold strike and I am using storm shield. Would it be better to use fire shield for the cold resist lower by 25 and damage reduction of 10%? Does that damage reduction work against spell casts, especially for higher difficulties?

Fire spike is the best for you. It reduce damage income and lower cold mitigation of monster (you do more damage)
Yes, it also work against spell cast. It's good to have if you play at high difficulty.

Edit: I replied in quote area lol

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post Feb 2 2017, 10:05
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It took me an hour to clear the trio and the tree arena on nightmare (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:03
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It took me an hour to clear the trio and the tree arena on nightmare (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
How can I improve this?

-Level Up
-Upgrade your gear
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:31
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Feb 2 2017, 03:34) *

2nd question, why is cotton so popular now for mages? In my day they go straight to bazzar but now they fill auctions like phase

because mage style is quite good - especially at high levels - but with monster lab and custom mobs it has been discovered that a certain proficiency is needed in order to advance smoothly, so at least a cotton of proficiency in your element is needed for all mages.
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:36
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Is it better to sell equips to bazaar if they're no good, or salvage for materials? This is considering I don't need the materials like low-grade cloth/scrap cloth.

Thanks again!
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:52
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Feb 2 2017, 16:36) *

Is it better to sell equips to bazaar if they're no good, or salvage for materials? This is considering I don't need the materials like low-grade cloth/scrap cloth.

Thanks again!

Sell or Salvage is individual policy. There was a thread talk about this >here<
And you can look up in wtb/wts some kind of things you don't need better to sell directly to player than bazaar.(e.g.scrap cloth)
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post Feb 2 2017, 11:55
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Feb 2 2017, 10:36) *

Is it better to sell equips to bazaar if they're no good, or salvage for materials? This is considering I don't need the materials like low-grade cloth/scrap cloth.

Thanks again!

i'd say sell. the revenue from selling materials and scraps is usually lower than what bazaar can directly provide you, without counting the more hassle required.
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