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post Jan 25 2017, 21:40
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Jan 25 2017, 10:41) *

er isn't 50 hath like 250k credits or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) and drains mana? seems horribly non cost efficient unless I'm missing something. Also doing dark mage atm (yes i know, not good idea, but I like spamming magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) so not sure how that effects scroll choices.


I don't have any mana issues with IA3 and my Power 2H, which is basically the highest mana consumption playstyle. At worst I have mana draughts on 90% of the time. Since I tasted IA, I consider myself stupid for not using it earlier.

There are a few other advantages to Innate Arcana:
1) You only spend the good amount of mana for the duration of the combat, which means you do not waste mana casting a buff that will only last 4-5 rounds. It's especially useful when you do a RE.
2) You do can cast the spell anyway, while the IA buff is active, to then have the regular buff. It can be very handy when you really need a Channeling to proc.
3) You just stop worrying about a good amount of your buffs, which guarantees faster rounds and a safer combat situation
4) Overall it allows playing in higher difficulties in a much safer way.

There do are inconvenients though:
1) The upkeep cost is calculated to be equal to a normal cast. It means that you cannot use spirit stance for reduced costs for spell casts.
2) The upkept spells don't trigger Channeling.
3) Going below 10% MP is extremely dangerous, as everything just expires all of a sudden. You'd better not get hit very hard at such a moment.

But overall, it's very handy. Your mana will still keep going up despite the upkeep cost if you have a mana draught on. And even when it's not on, your mana bar depletes very slowly.
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post Jan 25 2017, 21:47
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https://ehwiki.org/wiki/spirit_stance#Effects
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post Jan 25 2017, 21:47
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 25 2017, 20:40) *

2) You do can cast the spell anyway, while the IA buff is active, to then have the regular buff. It can be very handy when you really need a Channeling to proc.

with a net saving of mana equal to the spell cost * 1.5 divided by the number of IA... uh, something like that. long story short, if you have a channgelling, and all your buffs are on it's worth to cast it on a IA spell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 25 2017, 20:40) *

1) The upkeep cost is calculated to be equal to a normal cast. It means that you cannot use spirit stance for reduced costs for spell casts.

are you sure? when i am on spirit stance my net MP regen ratio is higher, which i guess can be achieved only if mana upkeep cost is reduced (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 25 2017, 20:40) *

3) Going below 10% MP is extremely dangerous, as everything just expires all of a sudden. You'd better not get hit very hard at such a moment.

just put your MP potion threshold at 25% and you're safe enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 25 2017, 21:48
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ditto (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 26 2017, 00:51
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Oh? I never felt it for my part. or I never feel anything out of the upkeep drain, period. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And don't start talking about Pokemon, dammit.
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post Jan 26 2017, 00:55
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 25 2017, 23:51) *

And don't start talking about Pokemon, dammit.

rather than pokemon, i'd speak about [gelbooru.com] certain (female) trainers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 26 2017, 01:31
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Should I be running the amnesia shard already since I didn't get capacitor on this? even though I was able to get 5 on jug.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0c658c76fb

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post Jan 26 2017, 01:33
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Jan 26 2017, 00:31) *

Should I be running the amnesia shard already since I didn't get capacitor on this? even though I was able to get 5 on jug.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0c658c76fb

Nope, it's already good like this, Capacitor is not so useful.
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post Jan 26 2017, 01:54
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 25 2017, 23:33) *
Nope, it's already good like this, Capacitor is not so useful.
Indeed
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 13 2016, 05:40) *
Multiply by 5 gears. High Capacitor on all gears costs around 42m, and gives a benefit of +0.15 credits/turn.

How many turns does that take to pay off? Something around 280 million, which is around 26k hours at 3 turns/sec.

In other words: bad idea, don't do it, it'll never pay off, even for the rich. Even if I'm off by an order of magnitude, the conclusion is the same. Probably not even Cap 1 in addition to Jug 5 is ever worth trying for.
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:28
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I had just received my first Mag, but it's a artic mace of slaughter. Should I sell it? How much will I get for it?
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:38
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 07:28) *

I had just received my first Mag, but it's a artic mace of slaughter. Should I sell it? How much will I get for it?


Becuase of low level it will sell. But low level players aren't rich. 50k?
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:45
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 07:28) *

I had just received my first Mag, but it's a artic mace of slaughter. Should I sell it? How much will I get for it?


Link to equipment please?
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:50
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My laptop is busted right now. The blue screen of death. I've been using my smartphone to play hentaiverse. I dont know how to copy the link of the equipment using smartphone.
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:52
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 06:50) *

I've been using my smartphone to play hentaiverse.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) that sounds like hell
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:55
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Only for REs and the first two arenas. Got to collect dem soul frags and feed my mons
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post Jan 26 2017, 11:30
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 07:50) *

My laptop is busted right now. The blue screen of death.

error code? did you already reboot?
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post Jan 26 2017, 11:51
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Failed to reboot. I think the problem is with the hard drive. It has been clicking sometimes.
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post Jan 26 2017, 12:07
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 10:51) *

Failed to reboot. I think the problem is with the hard drive. It has been clicking sometimes.

hmm... what does it say under the line "stop code" or "stop"?
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post Jan 26 2017, 12:42
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The screen wont turn on. But the power button and fan is on. Maybe reboot is the wrong term
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post Jan 26 2017, 13:06
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 26 2017, 11:42) *

The screen wont turn on. But the power button and fan is on. Maybe reboot is the wrong term

you know it should give you a series of b/w infos at the start, like bios, ram test etc etc. something like this:

(IMG:[www.fitzenreiter.de] http://www.fitzenreiter.de/ata/asus-a7n8x-deluxe-bios-post13.png)

does it show these ones at least? i ask you because whatever is on the HD loads only after these ones, so if they don't show as well the problem isn't on hd.


[edit]: oh, i'll assume you already checked cables are connected, plugs are properly fixed and such.

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