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post Jan 16 2017, 08:02
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How do I quickly gain prof for 1H Heavy? I read somewhere IW us the best place. Is it true? and does chaos token drop from any arena?

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post Jan 16 2017, 08:04
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The general consensus is that 1H Heavy doesn't have to do much to gain proficiency, you'll just gain it as you go along. If not, you can always try using PFUDOR/IWBTH/Nintendo Crude IW for proficiency.
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post Jan 16 2017, 08:06
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QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 16 2017, 06:02) *
How do I quickly gain prof for 1H Heavy? I read somewhere IW us the best place. Is it true? and does chaos token drop from any arena?
Specific prof grinding isn't very useful for melee weapon and armor, it'll rise close to your level naturally pretty quickly after you start playing regularly regardless. Prof grinding is only that useful for magic proficiency and staff proficiency.
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does chaos token drop from any arena?
Yes. Higher level arena = higher chance of token
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post Jan 16 2017, 10:50
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 15 2017, 15:48) *

From personal experience, these statements are absolutely on the money.

And to add a little... PL1000 doesn't seem to make the grade at all anymore...
PL1108 seems to be the line in the sand with the amount of monsters available today.


I am seeing a lot of your namesake appear but sorry to say, it's a bit toothless. It appears, doesn't do much damage if any and quietly dies - but yours is not atypical, I find most of the new mobs showing up are basically scarecrows. I wish someone would sink some serious amount of Chaos Tokens to make his/her baby into a scourge of HV, instead of a high leveled house of cards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 11:36
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QUOTE(diegodiego13 @ Jan 16 2017, 06:06) *

sry to interrupt, have questions about RoB right here..
just finished reading advice for hentaiverse and it says
"Consider TT&T only if you are capable of beating it at PFUDOR difficulty."

so if i only do RoB on normal, should i just do x2 FSM ?
for 10 ToB i mean.
or is there better option to spent 10 ToB?

it's fine to do it at normal the first time for the first clear bonus. after that, better to do it at high difficulty or to prefer 2x FSM

QUOTE(akuma101 @ Jan 16 2017, 07:02) *

How do I quickly gain prof for 1H Heavy? I read somewhere IW us the best place. Is it true?

no need to purposely grind prof for a melee style. what you read was probably for staff or other mage styles

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and does chaos token drop from any arena?

yep. 2nd page arenas in particular have a higher chance to drop a token as clear bonus. the higher the number of rounds, the higher the chance - being 100% with Trio & Tree and above

QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 16 2017, 09:50) *

I am seeing a lot of your namesake appear but sorry to say, it's a bit toothless. It appears, doesn't do much damage if any and quietly dies - but yours is not atypical, I find most of the new mobs showing up are basically scarecrows. I wish someone would sink some serious amount of Chaos Tokens to make his/her baby into a scourge of HV, instead of a high leveled house of cards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

more scarecrows is good. aren't you happy enough to play memory? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 12:26
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 16 2017, 16:50) *

I am seeing a lot of your namesake appear but sorry to say, it's a bit toothless. It appears, doesn't do much damage if any and quietly dies - but yours is not atypical, I find most of the new mobs showing up are basically scarecrows. I wish someone would sink some serious amount of Chaos Tokens to make his/her baby into a scourge of HV, instead of a high leveled house of cards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Are we talking about making another you-know-who? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 14:03
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 16 2017, 00:50) *

I am seeing a lot of your namesake appear but sorry to say, it's a bit toothless. It appears, doesn't do much damage if any and quietly dies - but yours is not atypical, I find most of the new mobs showing up are basically scarecrows. I wish someone would sink some serious amount of Chaos Tokens to make his/her baby into a scourge of HV, instead of a high leveled house of cards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Coincidence, but I was fooling around for the first time in PFFests this weekend.
I made it to rnd 781, and the Russians hacked me. Damn conspiracy I tell ya.

Anyway, I hate to say it, but I'm changing my strategy on chaos.
I'm going to use chaos to build an army of 200 PL1200's or so.
All but Angry Road Shoe and Elementaly Schoolgirl are going to be toothless little powder puffs.

Chaos tokens in scavenging only.

Too late for zero tokens on the 24 I have, but all but the two above are basically naked anyway.
And the two above are only beefed on brutality.
If you accidentally brush the mouse over them, they fall. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Edit: All Chaos after the eternity of getting 200 monsters "will" go in Angry Road Shoe and Elementaly Schoolgirl.

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post Jan 16 2017, 14:48
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jfyi, even the thoughest monsters go down with an accidental brush, at least for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 15:58
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 16 2017, 04:48) *

jfyi, even the thoughest monsters go down with an accidental brush, at least for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


But that's Not a Fair Comparison! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

You're The Valiant Red Knight Juggernaut Santa!!

I'm just an old beat up Road Shoe. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:09
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Hi to all the experts. Neecd some help for my fenrir set.

Magnificent Demonic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Fenrir
Gloves
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir

I know that I need a better staff. I made a mistake on the last auction so that I missed to get http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4d828d1b23.

1) Would that had been a good choice or should I look for a different kind?

2) Shall i try to Fenrir gloves as well or should I try to get elemental ones as I have read about 4+1 or 3+2 ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

3) Is this set good enough or should I replace some of them?

Thank you for your input (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:26
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 16:09) *

Hi to all the experts. Neecd some help for my fenrir set.

Magnificent Demonic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Fenrir
Gloves
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir

I know that I need a better staff. I made a mistake on the last auction so that I missed to get http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4d828d1b23.

1) Would that had been a good choice or should I look for a different kind?

2) Shall i try to Fenrir gloves as well or should I try to get elemental ones as I have read about 4+1 or 3+2 ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

3) Is this set good enough or should I replace some of them?

Thank you for your input (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

1. the best choice available. didn't check rolls though so i don't know *how* good it actually is.

2. you already have all Fenrir pieces. personally i'd go for Demon-fiend Gloves. preferably Charged, if you can find them - they won't be cheap though.

3. judging by names, it seems solid enough.
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:28
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 22:09) *

Hi to all the experts. Neecd some help for my fenrir set.

Magnificent Demonic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Fenrir
Gloves
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir

I know that I need a better staff. I made a mistake on the last auction so that I missed to get http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4d828d1b23.

1) Would that had been a good choice or should I look for a different kind?

2) Shall i try to Fenrir gloves as well or should I try to get elemental ones as I have read about 4+1 or 3+2 ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

3) Is this set good enough or should I replace some of them?

Thank you for your input (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


1~ LDWD is the best staff for dark mage , mantra (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



2~ err , nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

you should find cotton prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

depend on you ~ like to spams imperil or not , mantra (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

4+1 is for dark imperil style , but you need at least pants or robe prof for dark since holy/dark imperil is weaker than elemental (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

or better just go for 3+2 build like me or nirvarin ~ non imperil style ( weaker than non imperil holy for IWBTH/PFfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )



3~ yes , but you need to find some good charged cotton prof first , mantra (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 16 2017, 17:30
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 16:09) *

Hi to all the experts. Neecd some help for my fenrir set.

Magnificent Demonic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Fenrir
Gloves
Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Fenrir
Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir

I know that I need a better staff. I made a mistake on the last auction so that I missed to get http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4d828d1b23.

1) Would that had been a good choice or should I look for a different kind?

2) Shall i try to Fenrir gloves as well or should I try to get elemental ones as I have read about 4+1 or 3+2 ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

3) Is this set good enough or should I replace some of them?

Thank you for your input (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

1) That staff would have been the best type for a dark mage, since the ranking is:
Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction > Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction > Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Fenrir > Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of the Demon-fiend

2) Get a Demon-Fiend pair of gloves with high prof (if possible Charged), 4+1 is good for a dark mage.

3) The set is not bad.
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:34
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err , LDKDF is better than LDKD , but need 4 radiant phase to make this staff great ~ more expensive build than LDKD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

same like holy , just see what frankmelody use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:35
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 16 2017, 16:28) *

2~ err , nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

you should find cotton prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

depend on you ~ like to spams imperil or not , mantra (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

4+1 is for dark imperil style , but you need at least pants or robe prof for dark since holy/dark imperil is weaker than elemental (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

or better just go for 3+2 build like me or nirvarin ~ non imperil style ( weaker than non imperil holy for IWBTH/PFfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

btw, he has good-prefixed phases. why not going for a prof staff, at this point? would this be a good move? in case it was, which kind of armor for hand slot? cotton or phase?
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:36
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I have these

Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend
Legendary Charged Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend

Good enough?

So better go with 3+2? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

When IW my set which potencies should I go for?
Juggernaut and ???
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:39
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 16:36) *

it's been hinted that with a cotton with high enough slot mod, 4+1 would be enough. it was... uh... epion? sapo? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) who did the math just a couple of days ago on Robe. but you have Radiant, i wouldn't feel like changing it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
i'd rather go with Pants. though i didn't check rolls and don't know if you also need another piece or if it's enough already. eventually, the re's also the prof perk

QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 16:36) *

When IW my set which potencies should I go for?
Juggernaut and ???

and whatever comes, i guess.

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 16 2017, 22:35) *

btw, he has good-prefixed phases. why not going for a prof staff, at this point? would this be a good move? in case it was, which kind of armor for hand slot? cotton or phase?


err , I had post this and test it before ~ cost me around 35M+ to test LDKDF build with 3 radiant phase + 1 charged phase and 1 charged cotton than find that my old LDWD 3+2 build is better in hell/ninfest and IW runs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


prof staff is better for holy mage since it have weaker mobs compare to dark and better proc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 16 2017, 16:34) *

err , LDKDF is better than LDKD , but need 4 radiant phase to make this staff great ~ more expensive build than LDKD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

same like holy , just see what frankmelody use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I was going off what djackallstar said here some time ago, and needing to have an all radiant build is really expensive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 16 2017, 17:46
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Jan 16 2017, 22:36) *

I have these

Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend
Legendary Charged Cotton Pants of the Demon-fiend

Good enough?

So better go with 3+2? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

When IW my set which potencies should I go for?
Juggernaut and ???


yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

if you want to use 3+2 ~ robe + shoes for or pants + gloves/cap for cotton slot , mantra (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


just count your total base prof ( staff + whatever 2 slots that you will use ) = 22.35 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

~ you still need to unlock prof perk to reach 1.0 prof factor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)



jug4/5 + whatever like scremaz say ( cap is good but not that important now with this unlimited item system ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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