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post Jan 10 2017, 05:08
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If I have 28 monster slots and buy a gold star the monster slots would be doubled right?
If I want to unlock the 29th monster before I do so, it would be roundup(1 + (N - 1)^1.2) ----->56 tokens
the 30th would be 58 tokens (114 tokens to get 60 monsters when I get the GS)
Instead if I upgrade right now then I'd have 56 monster and unlocking the 57th and 58th would cost 127 tokens, the 59th and 60th would cost 132 tokens (259 tokens to get 60 monsters if I get a GS right now)

So it is better to get the most monster slots before upgrading to a GS right? or is some of my math missing a point?
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post Jan 10 2017, 05:12
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 9 2017, 22:08) *

If I have 28 monster slots and buy a gold star the monster slots would be doubled right?
If I want to unlock the 29th monster before I do so, it would be roundup(1 + (N - 1)^1.2) ----->56 tokens
the 30th would be 58 tokens (114 tokens to get 60 monsters when I get the GS)
Instead if I upgrade right now then I'd have 56 monster and unlocking the 57th and 58th would cost 127 tokens, the 59th and 60th would cost 132 tokens (259 tokens to get 60 monsters if I get a GS right now)

So it is better to get the most monster slots before upgrading to a GS right? or is some of my math missing a point?

I don't think the cost changes, stays the same whether you're a GS or not.

On another note, what the hell is happening to the value of Hath? It's down to 4850/e

The community has to got to think of ways to get its value up again, pains me to say this but maybe giving cookies to everyone who has GS was a mistake, but of course people won't agree with this suggestion... What else can we do to fix this up?

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post Jan 10 2017, 05:18
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 9 2017, 22:12) *

I don't think the cost changes, stays the same whether you're a GS or not.

the formula
roundup(1 + (N - 1)^1.2)
is the part that I'm concerned, I already thought about it some time ago, but never did the math, what I say is that this formula favors the earlier levels so its best to get monster slots before the GS, right?
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post Jan 10 2017, 05:28
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 10 2017, 01:18) *

the formula
roundup(1 + (N - 1)^1.2)
is the part that I'm concerned, I already thought about it some time ago, but never did the math, what I say is that this formula favors the earlier levels so its best to get monster slots before the GS, right?


The formula is correct. Think like this. There are 100 slots in total. A person with Gold Star earns an "extra free slot" to each one that is open. Thus, a GS, to create monsters 31 and 32 for example, spends the equivalent of slot 16. And so on.
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post Jan 10 2017, 08:15
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 9 2017, 22:12) *

On another note, what the hell is happening to the value of Hath? It's down to 4850/e

The community has to got to think of ways to get its value up again, pains me to say this but maybe giving cookies to everyone who has GS was a mistake, but of course people won't agree with this suggestion... What else can we do to fix this up?


Add more hath perks, is pretty much the only thing that can be done.
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post Jan 10 2017, 08:55
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 10 2017, 03:12) *
The community has to got to think of ways to get its value up again, pains me to say this but maybe giving cookies to everyone who has GS was a mistake, but of course people won't agree with this suggestion... What else can we do to fix this up?
I don't like cookies either.

I strongly support creating some sort of hath sink, to increase its value relative to credits and GP. Pay X hath, gain some bonus for N hours, or something of the sort. As is, all the rich and super-rich have all the perks they want, and most medium-high level players have most of the perks they reasonably want and can get. More perks will only kick the can down the road another handful of months; without a permanent hath sink (rather than one-time sink that the perks are), its value will only keep decreasing in the long term.

Something that has apparently been somewhat of a trend in the past: new versions sometimes come out with a requirement to pay for what everyone previously been had by default. Equip repair, GF crystals, level-assignment, etc. These changes are almost universally disliked, but something of that sort to prop up the value of hath could be a good thing for the economy. Making hath valuable is probably the most important practical function of HV, after all.
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post Jan 10 2017, 09:35
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I just got defeated three times in a row. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

here are my current stats and equip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I use a lot of scrolls during battle
Absorption
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post Jan 10 2017, 09:49
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QUOTE(pattie066 @ Jan 10 2017, 15:35) *

I just got defeated three times in a row. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

First thing to do is lower your difficulty until enemies become manageable. If you still die fast in Hell, then stay in nightmare for a while.

Afterwards, if you really wanna stay as dual wield, I suggest you find an average rapier for mainhand and wakizashi for offhand in the bazaar and use those instead of your current ones. If you like your axe, find an average rapier for your offhand instead. For offhand, damage isn't really good so focus on parry for that. If you ever get superiors to drop, the most important thing to look out for are weaps with the highest Parry stats for offhand while getting the obvious highest damage for mainhand.

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post Jan 10 2017, 10:14
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Jan 10 2017, 15:49) *

First thing to do is lower your difficulty until enemies become manageable. If you still die fast in Hell, then stay in nightmare for a while.

Afterwards, if you really wanna stay as dual wield, I suggest you find an average rapier for mainhand and wakizashi for offhand in the bazaar and use those instead of your current ones. If you like your axe, find an average rapier for your offhand instead. For offhand, damage isn't really good so focus on parry for that. If you ever get superiors to drop, the most important thing to look out for are weaps with the highest Parry stats for offhand while getting the obvious highest damage for mainhand.


I was on NINTENDO .. thanks for information
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post Jan 10 2017, 10:48
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QUOTE(jantch @ Jan 10 2017, 00:50) *

If it's the stuff I gave you, it's just average quality, so it's not worth much. Let me know and I can replace them, or you can ask for a starter set in ArbiterErii's shop if you haven't already. You've leveled up enough that you probably need new equipment now, anyway.


yes , its the one you gave me :3 i have it back now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:03
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QUOTE(pattie066 @ Jan 10 2017, 16:14) *

I was on NINTENDO .. thanks for information

I know, and I made the tip with this information in mind. Guess you misunderstood it so I'll reiterate it again.

Lower your difficulty. If you still die fast, lower difficulty again.

As a comparison this is how I thought you'd understand:

First thing to do is lower your difficulty until enemies become manageable. If you still die fast (if you still die fast in Hell), then lower difficulty again (lower difficulty and stay in nightmare for a while).

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post Jan 10 2017, 11:05
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QUOTE(pattie066 @ Jan 10 2017, 14:35) *

I just got defeated three times in a row. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

here are my current stats and equip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I use a lot of scrolls during battle
Absorption
Gods
Shadows
and Swiftness
I also have protection buff
Elixirs / mana-health-spirit



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lower your difficulty , you still not strong enough to play at that difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 10 2017, 11:10
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hello. I have a question.
Can I put this equipment on the auction?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=14d1795fdf

I know there is no good prefix even Negation. But it's Lower-level gear, right?
Anyway. Is it possible to put it on the auction?

Thanks for reading.
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:11
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QUOTE(haha1358 @ Jan 10 2017, 17:10) *

hello. I have a question.
Can I put this equipment on the auction?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=14d1795fdf

I know there is no good prefix even Negation. But it's Lower-level gear, right?
Anyway. Is it possible to put it on the auction?

Thanks for reading.

Yes. Also, for future inquiries regarding auctionable items, may I suggest the Price Check thread here

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post Jan 10 2017, 11:12
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QUOTE(haha1358 @ Jan 10 2017, 09:10) *
hello. I have a question.
Can I put this equipment on the auction?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=14d1795fdf

I know there is no good prefix even Negation. But it's Lower-level gear, right?
Anyway. Is it possible to put it on the auction?

Thanks for reading.
Ok, but don't get too hopeful
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:41
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2017, 11:12) *

Ok, but don't get too hopeful


Thanks for the answer!
May I have one more question?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4283a6c6df

What about this equipment? I look like garbage when I look at it.
But this is the first legendary item I have acquired .... How much is it worth? Is it hard to get on an auction?

I pray for my poor first son!

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post Jan 10 2017, 11:43
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QUOTE(haha1358 @ Jan 10 2017, 09:41) *
Thanks for the answer!
May I have one more question?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4283a6c6df

What about this equipment? I look like garbage when I look at it.
But this is the first legendary item I have acquired .... How much is it worth? Is it hard to get on an auction?

Poor my first son!
Unfortunately, even Legendary leather is junk, unless it's Reinforced Protection it won't get bid on, even if low level.

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post Jan 10 2017, 11:48
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2017, 11:43) *

Unfortunately, even Legendary leather is junk, unless it's Reinforced Protection it won't get bid on, even if low level.


Thank you
It's time to sell my son to bazaar.
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:49
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Dæmon Duality or Crystarium I-II-III? Or both? Or keep saving for GS? I want GS, but GS is still far away and perks so close. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:52
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Soo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I got a monster.. and its now 25 ..
lol I was thinking Id have some kind of pet that will aid me during battles (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
So .. what does it actually do.. ?

I mean, now i understand why these monsters we fight have weird names on them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
so how does we actually benifit from it ?
im reading wiki now...

so gifts.. :3
what gifts are these ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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