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post Jan 9 2017, 05:07
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After Scavenging, which chaos upgrades provide the best bang-for-buck in terms of making newbie players' lives miserable getting more monster gifts?

I would guess Fortitude for higher PL monsters where the players hardly ever die and you're just trying to outlast the other monsters, maybe Brutality for low PL monsters where you're hoping to get a killing blow?

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post Jan 9 2017, 05:26
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Hi all again.

I have about 1k hath,what is better:
1)Innate Arcana IV?
2)VV+EE?
3)something else?
4)sell for credits==>>get better equipment?

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
Gloves
Leggins
Boots

i have some better boots,body and gloves,just need to level up more(don't want to waste to much of Sfragments).

Any other advices ?


p.s. how Crystarium works? f.e. if i have Crystarium V, and get 3 crystal on drop,so with Crystarium V i'll get 13?

p.s.s.
1)best monster class for 50(or 25 better cuz of not wasting more crystals?) PL army? or doesn't matter?
2)best monster class for few 500 pl?

p.s.s.s. I have 2 figurines, is it worth to buy 19 more?how much dmg OFC have?

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post Jan 9 2017, 06:17
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 05:26) *

Hi all again.

I have about 1k hath,what is better:
1)Innate Arcana IV?
2)VV+EE?
3)something else?
4)sell for credits==>>get better equipment?


1) Almost completely useless for 1H
1) Ok, but kind of useless for melee
3) Gallery perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
4) Best option in my opinion

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 05:26) *

Any other advices ?


If you have legendary power of whatever with good adb replace helmet/armor/gauntlets/boots, new boots/gauntlets are quite bad too + look for 37+ block STR/DEX/END force shield and ~50 adb rapier + lower your burden for 1 point

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 05:26) *

1)best monster class for 50(or 25 better cuz of not wasting more crystals?) PL army? or doesn't matter?


25 lvl monsters with 1 Scavenging are the best, spend all extra crystals on 1 monster

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 05:26) *

p.s.s.s. I have 2 figurines, is it worth to buy 19 more?how much dmg OFC have?


OFC must have for 1H

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post Jan 9 2017, 06:34
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1) Almost completely useless for 1H
1) Ok, but kind of useless for melee
3) Gallery perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
4) Best option in my opinion
If you have legendary power of whatever with good adb replace helmet/armor/gauntlets/boots, new boots/gauntlets are quite bad too + look for 37+ block STR/DEX/END force shield and ~50 adb rapier + lower your burden for 1 point
25 lvl monsters with 1 Scavenging are the best, spend all extra crystals on 1 monster
OFC must have for 1H


Thanks:)


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post Jan 9 2017, 06:37
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 10:26) *

Hi all again.

I have about 1k hath,what is better:
1)Innate Arcana IV?
2)VV+EE?
3)something else?
4)sell for credits==>>get better equipment?

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
Gloves
Leggins
Boots

i have some better boots,body and gloves,just need to level up more(don't want to waste to much of Sfragments).

Any other advices ?
p.s. how Crystarium works? f.e. if i have Crystarium V, and get 3 crystal on drop,so with Crystarium V i'll get 13?

p.s.s.
1)best monster class for 50(or 25 better cuz of not wasting more crystals?) PL army? or doesn't matter?
2)best monster class for few 500 pl?

p.s.s.s. I have 2 figurines, is it worth to buy 19 more?how much dmg OFC have?


you don't really need IA4 and 5 if you use 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

VV+EE ~ not really important for 1H

so , sell them is better option here ~ you can use credits to forge your rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


class isn't really matter for PL below 1000 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


yes , OFC is great for 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 9 2017, 06:40
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 9 2017, 07:37) *

you don't really need IA4 and 5 if you use 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

VV+EE ~ not really important for 1H

so , sell them is better option here ~ you can use credits to forge your rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
class isn't really matter for PL below 1000 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
yes , OFC is great for 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)



Thanks,what about OFC damage?
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post Jan 9 2017, 06:42
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After Scavenging, which chaos upgrades provide the best bang-for-buck in terms of making newbie players' lives miserable getting more monster gifts?

I would guess Fortitude for higher PL monsters where the players hardly ever die and you're just trying to outlast the other monsters, maybe Brutality for low PL monsters where you're hoping to get a killing blow?

well , I always power up my low lvl army with 5~12 chaos per mobs depend on their lvl ( 29 ~ 60 ) , mozilla (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 11:40) *

Thanks,what about OFC damage?

high damage , but depend on your ADB and damage perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

~ since with 1H , you always have spirit stance and HS on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 9 2017, 06:50
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 12:40) *

Thanks,what about OFC damage?

If you want to maximize OFC damage as 1h, make sure you have Heartseeker and Spirit Stance on at the very least. Maybe overpower. And make sure you have 210 OC before using it as you need the extra 10 for the base consumed amount per action.
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post Jan 9 2017, 06:56
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hello, i have some questions to ask.
now i am level 230, i use mace and plate armor and one power armor, i play in hell difficulty
i feel unconfidince that is 2H works if i want to keep playing and i may try higher difficulties
or i should give up 2H and start 1H?
i usually need many buff including potions to survive in battle,
is it normal for this playing style or is my problem?

and about training, i have Adept Learner 50, should i leveling it up or its enough?
other item dropping abilities is useless or useful

the low quality equip i loot from battles, i sell them to the store, or should i salvage,
or it just little difference

wiki says i'll get blood token by passing arena, is there any other way to get it?
i need few days to get one, or thats because i'm playing level not high enough

last question is about monsters, is it necessary to get monsters? or it's not too important
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post Jan 9 2017, 07:00
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 04:56) *
or i should give up 2H and start 1H?
Yes, 1h is by far the path of least resistance
QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 04:56) *
i usually need many buff including potions to survive in battle,
is it normal for this playing style or is my problem?
It's pretty normal regardless. Level up or play 1h and it'll be easier.
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and about training, i have Adept Learner 50, should i leveling it up or its enough?
AL ~150+ is good, because leveling up is one of the best ways to get stronger, but of course you can't do that in the first place unless you have a decent amount of funds.
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other item dropping abilities is useless or useful
Not that useful, right now the vast majority of your income will come from credit drops from monsters, clear bonuses, and trophies. Drop training/perks become more useful later, once you have strong clear speed.
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post Jan 9 2017, 09:31
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 12:56) *

the low quality equip i loot from battles, i sell them to the store, or should i salvage,
or it just little difference

wiki says i'll get blood token by passing arena, is there any other way to get it?
i need few days to get one, or thats because i'm playing level not high enough

last question is about monsters, is it necessary to get monsters? or it's not too important

Just little difference.

Drop from mobs(little chance),difficulty affects just a little bit,it mostly because you play too little rounds.

Feed several 50pl,it may give you some additional income but not much.
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post Jan 9 2017, 10:44
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 9 2017, 04:07) *

After Scavenging, which chaos upgrades provide the best bang-for-buck in terms of making newbie players' lives miserable getting more monster gifts?

I would guess Fortitude for higher PL monsters where the players hardly ever die and you're just trying to outlast the other monsters, maybe Brutality for low PL monsters where you're hoping to get a killing blow?

At high level I always assumed chaos upgrades do very little for monster gifts since most wins comes from players' fleeing, at low level I guess brutality and fortitude may help a bit.


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2)VV+EE?

VV is pretty good and cheap at your level, I would get it regardless.
EE is not useful for melee.
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post Jan 9 2017, 12:05
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 04:26) *

I have about 1k hath,what is better:
1)Innate Arcana IV?
2)VV+EE?

1) pretty useless for 1H. take it only if you plan to use other playstyles like DW Shade. but still, a low priority
2) VV is good. EE can wait.

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 04:26) *

Rapier
Shield
Helmet
Body
Gloves
Leggins
Boots

i have some better boots,body and gloves,just need to level up more(don't want to waste to much of Sfragments).

Armor, Gauntlets and Boots need to be replaced whenever possible. the backup pieces you have seem good, so with a few levelups you should be good to go. all the rest seem fine enough. Shield can be fine for now, but try to look for a better one as well. you may need extra block from now onwards.
as for all that extra hath, either save it or use it for shield and forge materials.

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 04:26) *

Any other advices ?
p.s. how Crystarium works? f.e. if i have Crystarium V, and get 3 crystal on drop,so with Crystarium V i'll get 13?

i don't know if Crystarium is good for a non-heavy grinder. however, they don't stack, so only the higher bonus is active

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 04:26) *

p.s.s.
1)best monster class for 50(or 25 better cuz of not wasting more crystals?) PL army? or doesn't matter?

pretty much doesn't matter, you'll be relying on 3-days gifts too much if compared to the efficiency of the monster itself. you may want to pick one with high END though.

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 04:26) *

p.s.s.s. I have 2 figurines, is it worth to buy 19 more?how much dmg OFC have?

yes, it's worth. when the proper conditions are met (>210OC, Spirit Stance, Heartseeker, Overwhelming Strikes) it can clear a round by itself. if not, it's still a nice bonus. plus, it's quite cheap nowadays. something like, uh... 500k? 100 Hath? you found an use for part of those (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 05:56) *

now i am level 230, i use mace and plate armor and one power armor, i play in hell difficulty
i feel unconfidince that is 2H works if i want to keep playing and i may try higher difficulties
or i should give up 2H and start 1H?

it would be a wise move, yep.

QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 05:56) *

i usually need many buff including potions to survive in battle,
is it normal for this playing style or is my problem?

i'd say it's normal. you simply reached the limit of 2H, i guess.

QUOTE(pooaa @ Jan 9 2017, 05:56) *

wiki says i'll get blood token by passing arena, is there any other way to get it?
i need few days to get one, or thats because i'm playing level not high enough

tokens are rare on their own, so i wouldn't say you're doing something wrong. btw, arenas from second page have higher chance to drop a bonus token at the end. not that the first page ones cannot, of course.

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last question is about monsters, is it necessary to get monsters? or it's not too important

not mandatory. but still worth it for a nice bonus every now and then.
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post Jan 9 2017, 16:22
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yes, it's worth. when the proper conditions are met (>210OC, Spirit Stance, Heartseeker, Overwhelming Strikes) it can clear a round by itself. if not, it's still a nice bonus. plus, it's quite cheap nowadays. something like, uh... 500k? 100 Hath? you found an use for part of those (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you mean clear round of PF?

thanks for full answer:)
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post Jan 9 2017, 16:28
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Jan 9 2017, 15:22) *

you mean clear round of PF?

thanks for full answer:)

even PF, yep. it goes from completely clearing the round to leaving only very tanky mobs (maximum 2-3 out of 10) on the verge of death. and you can use it every 50 turns, so... uh... maybe every 3-4 rounds? something like that.
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 9 2017, 17:28) *

even PF, yep. it goes from completely clearing the round to leaving only very tanky mobs (maximum 2-3 out of 10) on the verge of death. and you can use it every 50 turns, so... uh... maybe every 3-4 rounds? something like that.


even one more question;)

arcane III

i use

Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, mb i need to change something?
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even one more question;)

arcane III

i use

Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, mb i need to change something?

Replace Shadow Veil with Spirit Shield. If you have above 50% block, replace haste with Protection
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even one more question;)

arcane III

i use

Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, mb i need to change something?

Is your build 1H Heavy?
If yes, swap Shadow Veil for Spirit Shield.
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