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post Jan 7 2017, 16:37
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 7 2017, 22:29) *

I was reading a bit and noticed that you're supposed to use some gear that are specifically for increasing prof, right now I'm just using 5 phase of surtr, is this a wrong thing to do? What would be a better set-up? My main objective is to increase damage and be able to quickly kill monsters in Normal, so nothing fancy is needed (I think).

I'm in the same situation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I think ssss2 showed a bit of his results using a mixed setup for his (elec?) mage and it showed that having proficiency cloths improves his total turn count. Basically you look for cotton cap+gloves/boots of the elementalist to improve your proficiency to lessen the enemies' resistance alongside imperil.

I think it was Super who mentioned though that if you were to maximize, you gotta compute and stuff but hey, you're planning to do it on Normal (and I on hard) so not gonna be a problem when picking which pair of proficiency cloths to get
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post Jan 7 2017, 16:41
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This is probably a dumb question but, what do you mean by 1.0 prof, 0.7 prof, etc.
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post Jan 7 2017, 16:47
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 7 2017, 15:29) *

I was considering doing that when I needed a persona for mage, and since all 3 of them were built for 1H, I was in a bad situation, another persona would cost me 1m and that's something I simply can't afford right now, but with patience I managed to lower 50% of STR and several other stats and increase INT/WIS, took a couple weeks, I think I was able to lower 10 points in total every 24 hours.

personally i'm at AB70 and i noted that all melee builds are manage-able with only one persona. maybe even AB90, if you don't want to give away Heavy armor's mitigations. but still...

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 7 2017, 15:29) *

My main objective is to increase damage and be able to quickly kill monsters in Normal, so nothing fancy is needed (I think).

in addition to what's already been said, i suggest at least Hard. lower penalty reduction for 1k rounds and at least the chance for some Amnesias to drop.

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Jan 7 2017, 15:41) *

This is probably a dumb question but, what do you mean by 1.0 prof, 0.7 prof, etc.

iirc, it should be how much your prof surpassed your level. something like this:
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               prof - moblevel       prof
prof_factor = ----------------- = ---------- - 1
                  moblevel         moblevel

basically, it give you a hint on how much you'll reduce monsters' mitigations. something like that.

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post Jan 7 2017, 16:48
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Jan 7 2017, 14:37) *
I think it was Super who mentioned though that if you were to maximize, you gotta compute and stuff but hey, you're planning to do it on Normal (and I on hard) so not gonna be a problem when picking which pair of proficiency cloths to get
IMO, doing the math is useful regardless of difficulty, it might mean the difference between standard clear speed and +10% clear speed - which some players pay thousands of hath for.
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This is probably a dumb question but, what do you mean by 1.0 prof, 0.7 prof, etc.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Effects
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post Jan 7 2017, 16:55
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 7 2017, 22:48) *

IMO, doing the math is useful regardless of difficulty, it might mean the difference between standard clear speed and +10% clear speed - which some players pay thousands of hath for.

Ah I see. Thought it'll only be important once you start maging on Hell and up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Hmm... so even at Normal/Hard, it would be best to still aim for at least .68 prof factor right?

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post Jan 7 2017, 16:57
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Jan 7 2017, 15:55) *

Ah I see. Thought it'll only be important once you start maging on Hell and up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Hmm... so even at Normal/Hard, it would be best to still aim for at least .68 prof factor right?

with imperil, iirc. without it should be 1.0
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post Jan 7 2017, 16:57
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with imperil, iirc. without it should be 1.0
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post Jan 7 2017, 19:54
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What is the best thing to do with my Untradeable lvl 500 Magnificent Frugal Phase Cap of Surtr ?

I would really like to wear it as I'm an Elementalist (magic user) but the highest I can dawn is lvl 406.
Too bad I can't soulfuse it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

?#2 While I'm asking... what should I do with this Level Unassigned Untradeable thing Average Willow Staff of Destruction


Thanks in adv for your suggestions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jan 7 2017, 19:56
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Jan 7 2017, 17:54) *
What is the best thing to do with my Untradeable lvl 500 Magnificent Frugal Phase Cap of Surtr ?

I would really like to wear it as I'm an Elementalist (magic user) but the highest I can dawn is lvl 406.
Too bad I can't soulfuse it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Thanks in adv for your suggestions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Trash, salvage. Mag cloth is trash below above 450, and only Mag Radiant is useful past ~380.

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post Jan 7 2017, 20:02
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 7 2017, 12:56) *

Trash, salvage. Mag cloth is trash below 450, and only Mag Radiant is useful past ~380.

I assume your talking about "Potency Tier"?
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:04
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Jan 7 2017, 18:02) *
I assume your talking about "Potency Tier"?
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I'm talking about level, PXP isn't that important
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:11
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 7 2017, 13:04) *

I'm talking about level, PXP isn't that important

Ok then I'm confused. as the item is lvl 500.
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So it isn't Trash, but your suggesting to Trash it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:16
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Jan 7 2017, 19:11) *

Ok then I'm confused. as the item is lvl 500.
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So it isn't Trash, but your suggesting to Trash it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


That staff is trash. That magnificent phase is to be salvaged. Gives you high-grade cloth @19k
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:18
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Jan 7 2017, 19:11) *

Ok then I'm confused. as the item is lvl 500.
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So it isn't Trash, but your suggesting to Trash it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

no, the matter is the level at which it's assigned. a 3PAB Mag Phase isn't crappy on its own, but by the point you'll be able to equip it (lv400) you'll be able to afford Legendaries with relative ease. which, if nothing else, won't cost you all those fragments and will surely have some better stats.

long story short, Mag Phase may not be bad. lv500 Mag Phase surely is bad.
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Mistype, sorry. Gear that looks good (eg. Mag XXX of XXX) becomes less valuable the higher level it is. Regarding cloth, past 380, most ordinary Legendary cloth will be better than any Magnificent cloth (except Radiant) - and will still only be valued at 50k-100k in most cases.

Past 450 or so, usually only Legendary and good-prefix cloth (Charged and Radiant) have a decent chance of selling for more than 50k. (with the exception of very high EDB Heimdall and Freyr).

So you can see how Mag Frugal at level 500 won't be attractive (to you, or to anyone), since even if you soulfused it 100 levels down, you could instead spend 50k-100k or less and get something significantly better.
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:19
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 7 2017, 19:16) *

That staff is trash.

stuff sir, if you allow me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 7 2017, 20:55
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@Scremaz

Thanks, your advice has done me wonders. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Things are a lot easier now that I have a few power items. It is a shame I discovered it late, I wasted too much money for stuff that are worthless.

Just advice on the following:

1) What binding would you recommend for my 2h blade? Also any advice on armor bindings?

2) Does soulfusing work on items that are lower than your current level. I find a number of good quality items but the level is much much lower (in the hundreds).

3) If the item is 100 levels above, all it does when you soulfuse it, just adjust to your level, correct?

4) I have INT at 100. Is that OK? Should I set the other stats to be equal? I have END and WIS highest, followed by STR and DEX, and then AGI. Planning to up AGI as I am now trying to get my BUR below 70. I still need a few more power items to get it there, but getting there.

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Thanks All (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Untradeable lvl 500 Magnificent Frugal Phase Cap of Surtr
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post Jan 7 2017, 21:25
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Questshun to the experts? How much time do you spend on forums? I feel like I see you everywhere and posting at any time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 7 2017, 21:37
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 7 2017, 19:55) *

@Scremaz

Thanks, your advice has done me wonders. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Things are a lot easier now that I have a few power items. It is a shame I discovered it late, I wasted too much money for stuff that are worthless.

Just advice on the following:

1) What binding would you recommend for my 2h blade? Also any advice on armor bindings?

2) Does soulfusing work on items that are lower than your current level. I find a number of good quality items but the level is much much lower (in the hundreds).

3) If the item is 100 levels above, all it does when you soulfuse it, just adjust to your level, correct?

4) I have INT at 100. Is that OK? Should I set the other stats to be equal? I have END and WIS highest, followed by STR and DEX, and then AGI. Planning to up AGI as I am now trying to get my BUR below 70. I still need a few more power items to get it there, but getting there.

0) you're welcome.

1) i guess you meant "potencies". if that's the case, 2H works good with Overpower, Butcher and Fatality. whatever combo of these, but i still suggest you to switch to 1H if possible. as for armors, the best potency if Juggernaut. but don't mind too much if it doesn't pop out, other potencies like Fireproof anf Holyproof are good as well.

2) yes. it will still scale stats to your level, then make them scale with your character like usual.

3) yep. remember that +100 level is the maximum threshold. for example, now you're lv251. you can soulfuse items which have lv351 at max, and have to level up before being able to soulfuse lv352+. no lower limit though.

4) yes, it's fine. and other stats equal, yep. it's quicker to remember and not so different from an eventual optimum. when you'll want to raise your SP Tank a bit, throw in a few points of INT since it will be really cheap.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 7 2017, 20:25) *

Questshun to the experts? How much time do you spend on forums?

please don't make me think about that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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