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post Jan 6 2017, 19:42
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 6 2017, 20:58) *

try using LDKDF plus radiant pants ~ higher magic score & evade than my LDWD 3+2 build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but , I got slower turns for my hellfest runs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

LDWD just need 43xx~44xx turns while LDKDF need 45xx~46xx despite higher magic score and EVA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
it's seem that CR make high different here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
back using LDWD again ~ really expensive test here ~ cost me alot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
lesson learned (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

May I ask 43xx~44xx turns with 0 turn or without 0 turn?I'm interested in holy/dark mage now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
And also basic condition if you don't mind,like prof factor,score&DD.

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post Jan 6 2017, 19:56
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QUOTE(issary @ Jan 7 2017, 00:42) *

May I ask 43xx~44xx turns with 0 turn or without 0 turn?I'm interested in holy/dark mage now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
And also basic condition if you don't mind,like prof factor,score&DD.

err , what the meaning of turn 0 ????

I use counterplus scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


prof 1.0 ~ I'm kinda lazy casting imperil other than SG / ROB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

magic score ~ 24.7k

damage perk ~ GaK





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post Jan 6 2017, 20:16
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 7 2017, 01:56) *

err , what the meaning of turn 0 ????

I use counterplus scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
prof 1.0 ~ I'm kinda lazy casting imperil other than SG / ROB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

magic score ~ 24.7k

damage perk ~ GaK

Latest version will count turn 0(spawn monsters) in so if it shows 4300 turns,it is 4300 turns.Old counterplus won't so if it shows 4300turns it's actually 5300 turns.
By the way,do you count your score with crit?Or just md*(1+edb)?
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post Jan 6 2017, 20:24
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QUOTE(issary @ Jan 7 2017, 01:16) *

Latest version will count turn 0(spawn monsters) in so if it shows 4300 turns,it is 4300 turns.Old counterplus won't so if it shows 4300turns it's actually 5300 turns.
By the way,do you count your score with crit?Or just md*(1+edb)?
I hate auto correct on my phone. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

err , I use newest version of counter plus & sapo reloader mod also give me same turns , 43xx or 44xx (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Since djack and nirva turns is nearly same with me for hellfest , so I think that turns is correct (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
coz I only need 2-5 turns for early 300~400 rounds of hellfest for full atk ( if I don't hover any power gem / expired mana draught & buff )

With crit / nerfy scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 6 2017, 20:27
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 7 2017, 02:24) *

err , I use newest version of counter plus & sapo reloader mod also give me same turns , 43xx or 44xx (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Since djack and nirva turns is nearly same with me for hellfest , so I think that turns is correct (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
With crit / nerfy scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thank you very much,seems like I have to do some more calculations.
(Holy/dark really worse than element with 1.0 prof in hellfest?I don't think so but data shows it is.)

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post Jan 6 2017, 20:32
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QUOTE(issary @ Jan 7 2017, 01:27) *

Thank you very much,seems like I have to do some more calculations.
(Holy/dark really worse than element with 1.0 prof in hellfest?I don't think so but data shows it is.)

just curious , how many turns for element in hellfest ???


Err , isn't holy/dark is better with non imperil ~ 1.0 prof style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Alot of data already prof that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


sssss2 newest data with PFfest gum vase run 1.0 prof elec need 28xx turns while 0.99 prof ice need 30xx turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


while djack can get 24xx for vase gum PFfest run ~ his damage perk is only FFD if my memory not wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

nirva ~ 25xx / 26xx for PFfest vase gum run with dark ( Aesht perk ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 6 2017, 20:45
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 7 2017, 02:32) *

just curious , how many turns for element in hellfest ???

Mine fire set (29.3k,Æsahættr&1.0 prof) are 39xx turns(Or 49xx turns with 0 turn)
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post Jan 6 2017, 21:59
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 7 2017, 02:32) *

Err , isn't holy/dark is better with non imperil ~ 1.0 prof style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Alot of data already prof that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
sssss2 newest data with PFfest gum vase run 1.0 prof elec need 28xx turns while 0.99 prof ice need 30xx turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
while djack can get 24xx for vase gum PFfest run ~ his damage perk is only FFD if my memory not wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

nirva ~ 25xx / 26xx for PFfest vase gum run with dark ( Aesht perk ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It should be.Average holy/dark resistance of mobs is lower than element,holy/dark t1&t2spell have bigger factor than element,holy/dark have Burning Soul/Ripened Soul........
Anyway,I'm going to test 4 Radiant holy mage if I can collect them.
And could you please provide your stats with 4+1LDKDf and 3+2LDWD?13 CR should not affact that much if I caculate currect. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jan 6 2017, 22:15
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If I Soulfuse an item, can I still upgrade it and enchant it?

I plan to go with it in ItemWorld before soulfusing it.


QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 5 2017, 21:55) *

This is why indexedDb is such a pain to deal with.

Uncomment the dbDelete line near the top of the script, then recomment it and try again.


Error is gone, but it just opens a blank light blue page.
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post Jan 6 2017, 22:31
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 21:15) *

If I Soulfuse an item, can I still upgrade it and enchant it?

yes, sure.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 21:15) *

I plan to go with it in ItemWorld before soulfusing it.

if that's the case, i suggest you to do a first run to unlock the desired potency(es) - Dark Descent reforge services can help here. when you're done with, soulfuse it to halve the time needed. if you rather plan to resort to an IW service (i noted vivikinomoto being quite quick and efficient, for example), i still suggest you to unlock the potencies first (or at least to try), but obviously you don't have to soulfuse it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 6 2017, 22:36
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QUOTE(issary @ Jan 6 2017, 09:51) *

It's 'I fear Longsword' but not 'I am weak against Longsword' (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Very true though the intent is clear hehe, you wouldn't fear a weapon you had no weakness to, it wasn't a big issue though, just that the wiki still says it is not allowed, as others have said though the wiki is outdated in several areas.

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post Jan 6 2017, 23:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 6 2017, 20:31) *

yes, sure.
if that's the case, i suggest you to do a first run to unlock the desired potency(es) - Dark Descent reforge services can help here. when you're done with, soulfuse it to halve the time needed. if you rather plan to resort to an IW service (i noted vivikinomoto being quite quick and efficient, for example), i still suggest you to unlock the potencies first (or at least to try), but obviously you don't have to soulfuse it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I will unlock potencies first as I do not see the item I equip in the listing for IW. I have to unequip it first and then it appears. And I've never done soulfuse, but I read that once I soulfuse it I cannot take it off (?)

I only have one Amensia Shard and if I had 2000Hath I would be wearing bling and not the crap stuff I have now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Truth I do not know what potencies are good.. just going for anything. I am low level still and I just need to have this stuff carry me for another X amount of levels before I get a peerless set just magical drop for me.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 6 2017, 23:27
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 22:19) *

I will unlock potencies first as I do not see the item I equip in the listing for IW. I have to unequip it first and then it appears.

yep. reason for that is that "you cannot enter the world inside an item with the item itself". btw, even using a second build is enough, in case you have it.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 22:19) *

And I've never done soulfuse, but I read that once I soulfuse it I cannot take it off (?)

[edit]: my bad, i misread this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) it's as zen_zen will say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 22:19) *

I only have one Amensia Shard and if I had 2000Hath I would be wearing bling and not the crap stuff I have now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i spoke about Dark Descent services. there are some users who purchased the perk and are kind enough to reset other's items on request. for example, NerfThis and Superlatanium, but who knows how many others. needless to say, better for you to make them reset an item with an even number of levels.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 22:19) *

Truth I do not know what potencies are good.. just going for anything. I am low level still and I just need to have this stuff carry me for another X amount of levels before I get a peerless set just magical drop for me.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

250 can already be seen as mid level. or at least enough to start thinking about at least one good potency. may i ask you what item and what playstyle are we speaking about?

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post Jan 6 2017, 23:30
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 13:19) *

I will unlock potencies first as I do not see the item I equip in the listing for IW. I have to unequip it first and then it appears. And I've never done soulfuse, but I read that once I soulfuse it I cannot take it off (?)

I only have one Amensia Shard and if I had 2000Hath I would be wearing bling and not the crap stuff I have now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Truth I do not know what potencies are good.. just going for anything. I am low level still and I just need to have this stuff carry me for another X amount of levels before I get a peerless set just magical drop for me.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


You can unequip soulfused gear, you just cannot sell them.

Going for any potency is good, getting Void Strike with weapons is an objective in itself. Level 250 isn't all that low, I was doing IW runs on IWBTH (Exquisite and Mag gear) for my own use at that level, I don't see why anyone else can't do the same.
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post Jan 7 2017, 00:03
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 6 2017, 21:27) *
250 can already be seen as mid level. or at least enough to start thinking about at least one good potency. may i ask you what item and what playstyle are we speaking about?


Exquisite Ethereal Longsword Of Slaughter kindly donated by jantch.

I was waiting to hit 265 before I equip this weapon (as I have other items around that level), but I might wear it now... undecided. Either way I am going to go in IW with it and another few items (heavy armor).

My style is simple, I hit them to death with a big stick. Because of the longsword I use, Sleep does not work. Had I known from the start I would have gone with either Shield and Sword or DW. It's a bit of pain but I do not mind. I am hoping the TH pays off in the long run.

I use Heavy Gear so my interference and burden is high. I cannot evade a strike from a sloth. (IMG:[pbs.twimg.com] https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3500671739/3b77412e500c79ef3c092230ace44c35_reasonably_small.jpeg)


QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 6 2017, 21:30) *

You can unequip soulfused gear, you just cannot sell them.


Ah that makes things a lot easier.

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post Jan 7 2017, 00:17
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 23:03) *

I use Heavy Gear

Plate or Power?

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 6 2017, 23:03) *

my interference and burden is high.

ITR isn't a matter. BUR for a heavy warrior only if >> 70.
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post Jan 7 2017, 00:36
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Guys, when does the eastern event begin again ? at the start of the month or was there a time limit ?

P.s. I still need a while before i can play again ;p my provider is just dumb.. my internet is so bad in the evening, I cant even watch twitch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jan 7 2017, 01:13
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 6 2017, 22:17) *

Plate or Power?
ITR isn't a matter. BUR for a heavy warrior only if >> 70.


Plate.. Should I get power?

My BUR is high, way too high. All of my gear give me BUR which makes it greater than 70. My current longsword is not Ethereal and the burden it gives is way too high. I have a few Mag that I purchased, but I have yet to reach the levels desired. But I will purchase a whole new set as I should have only gotten Mithril items (which I didn't).

Superlatanium has helped me to get smartsearch to work. So I will be looking for better Mithril items to purchase.

I've upped INT, thinking it improves Regen spell as it is magic. Should I reset my INT to 0? I do not use spells much apart from supportive role rather than attacking.
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 7 2017, 00:13) *

Plate.. Should I get power?

at your level you should, yep. it will give you ADB and less BUR. it's quite hard to go way past 70 with Power, tbh. as for weapons, you may want to start looking for a Rapier and a Shield.
or at least, this is the most efficient style at your point. feel free to go with 2H, but it won't be an easy task from now onwards.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 7 2017, 00:13) *

So I will be looking for better Mithril items to purchase.

no need for Mithril Plate. if you really want to switch, go with Power. your final target will be Slaughter suffix and/or Savage prefix, but for now whatever you can find around your level will work.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Jan 7 2017, 00:13) *

I've upped INT, thinking it improves Regen spell as it is magic. Should I reset my INT to 0? I do not use spells much apart from supportive role rather than attacking.

lowering it a bit and not upgrading it further will be enough.
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post Jan 7 2017, 02:03
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QUOTE(Mrsuperhappy @ Jan 6 2017, 15:36) *

just that the wiki still says it is not allowed, as others have said though the wiki is outdated in several areas

The rule hasn't changed, the enforcement is just non-existent.
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