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post Dec 30 2016, 20:45
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Posted in the wrong place. Sorry.
Dang, i need a function to remove posts completely (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Dec 30 2016, 21:25
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QUOTE(issary @ Dec 29 2016, 09:46) *

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How the hell did prices get that out of hand?
Anyway I'm glad I was gone visiting family till last night because I would have sold them off the first day.
Make's me wounder if I shouldn't wait a bit longer before selling.
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post Dec 30 2016, 21:28
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Should I sell my stocking stuffers/dino egg or is it better to use them? Not entirely sure what they give. Will they hold more value if I wait?
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post Dec 30 2016, 21:36
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Should I sell my stocking stuffers/dino egg or is it better to use them? Not entirely sure what they give. Will they hold more value if I wait?

egg, most likely not. stuffers, maybe a bit. you *may* try to wait a few other days. but sell as soon as you see a stale. afterall, it's still 1M we're speaking about, isn'it? personally i wouldn't spit on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 30 2016, 22:10
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What's the best way to grind cloth/staff prof without taking days and not dying? I'm currently using an average random staff (durability 1%), with my complete phase of surtr set (for cloth prof) and no abilities that will increase staff damage.

Also, I haven't gotten any good equipment drops in the pasts few weeks, and that makes me sad, should I train any of these? [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/viXyU07.png

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post Dec 30 2016, 22:19
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 12:10) *

What's the best way to grind cloth/staff prof without taking days and not dying? I'm currently using an average random staff (durability 1%), with my complete phase of surtr set (for cloth prof) and no abilities that will increase staff damage.

Also, I haven't gotten any good equipment drops in the pasts few weeks, and that makes me sad, should I train any of these? [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/viXyU07.png

Stay with normal diff, for sure. Innate Arcana with Spirit Shield, Protect and Spark of Life will be a Godsend for starting magers. But at your level, it's gonna take many, many, many days to grind Cloth and Staff from scratch.

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post Dec 30 2016, 22:20
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 21:10) *

What's the best way to grind cloth/staff prof without taking days and not dying? I'm currently using an average random staff (durability 1%), with my complete phase of surtr set (for cloth prof) and no abilities that will increase staff damage.

Also, I haven't gotten any good equipment drops in the pasts few weeks, and that makes me sad, should I train any of these? [i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/viXyU07.png

As i know for prof best way is Crude/Fair IWBTH IW.

You got some good drops at least, and have a much worse drop training than mine.
I'd say to train Scavenger up to 20-25 at least, for now.
Then Luck of the Draw and Quartermaster up to 5-10.
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post Dec 30 2016, 22:29
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 21:10) *

What's the best way to grind cloth/staff prof without taking days and not dying? I'm currently using an average random staff (durability 1%), with my complete phase of surtr set (for cloth prof) and no abilities that will increase staff damage.

best way to grind Staff prof is buying a Crude item (or whatever low-PXP item you can find) from bazaar and IW it at IWTBH difficulty. mobs will have a fair HP tank (thus, they will require a bit of hits to be killed = more chance for your prof to raise) but will deal a laughable damage, so it will be quite difficult for you to die.

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post Dec 30 2016, 22:35
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 30 2016, 15:19) *

Stay with normal diff, for sure. Innate Arcana with Spirit Shield, Protect and Spark of Life will be a Godsend for starting magers. But at your level, it's gonna take many, many, many days to grind Cloth and Staff from scratch.

I went from 0 to 200 in a day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) but I got super tired of doing the same thing over and over, so I gave up and used my Melee persona again, now I feel motivated to grind some more staff prof again.

@Scremaz, are you sure they deal laughable damage? I played crude in normal (I think?) and I had to cure every 5 turns (which was very annoying), or is this normal?

I just gained ~4 staff prof in 10 minutes, is this a good amount or not?
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post Dec 30 2016, 22:40
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 21:35) *

@Scremaz, are you sure they deal laughable damage? I played crude in normal (I think?) and I had to cure every 5 turns (which was very annoying), or is this normal?

That's definitely not on normal.
On Crude IWBTH you will probably need to cure a bit since your level is low (consider dropping to Nintendo in case or even lower if you have 1% staff) but not on normal. Crude IW enemies don't really deal that much of a damage, if you have your buffs up you should be ok.
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post Dec 30 2016, 23:04
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 21:35) *

@Scremaz, are you sure they deal laughable damage? I played crude in normal (I think?) and I had to cure every 5 turns (which was very annoying), or is this normal?

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 30 2016, 21:40) *

That's definitely not on normal.
On Crude IWBTH you will probably need to cure a bit since your level is low (consider dropping to Nintendo in case or even lower if you have 1% staff) but not on normal. Crude IW enemies don't really deal that much of a damage, if you have your buffs up you should be ok.

yep. which spells were you using? and how is your Evade? do you use Health Draughts?
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post Dec 30 2016, 23:48
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 21:35) *

I went from 0 to 200 in a day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) but I got super tired of doing the same thing over and over, so I gave up and used my Melee persona again, now I feel motivated to grind some more staff prof again.

@Scremaz, are you sure they deal laughable damage? I played crude in normal (I think?) and I had to cure every 5 turns (which was very annoying), or is this normal?

I just gained ~4 staff prof in 10 minutes, is this a good amount or not?



I use heavy plate armor for this and a broken staff - special persona without strength. Works like a charm. But the boys tell me that I shouldn't use plate. But this works. If after 6 rounds you have to cure, just use spirit stance to kill one of the fuckers, then with one less you'll be fine again.
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post Dec 30 2016, 23:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 30 2016, 16:48) *

I use heavy plate armor for this and a broken staff - special persona without strength. Works like a charm. But the boys tell me that I shouldn't use plate. But this works. If after 6 rounds you have to cure, just use spirit stance to kill one of the fuckers, then with one less you'll be fine again.

Thing is, I'm also in need of Cloth prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) if I could use my power armor, I would be grinding staff prof with it in high difficulties without problems.
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post Dec 31 2016, 00:03
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 30 2016, 22:48) *

I use heavy plate armor for this and a broken staff - special persona without strength. Works like a charm. But the boys tell me that I shouldn't use plate. But this works. If after 6 rounds you have to cure, just use spirit stance to kill one of the fuckers, then with one less you'll be fine again.

actually Plate is quite useless. Leather is way better - at least you still have a bunch of Evade and Attack Speed.

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 22:55) *

if I could use my power armor, I would be grinding staff prof with it in high difficulties without problems.

speaking of which, i bet that he who said back then that the simple past of "can" should've been "could" was a sadist.
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post Dec 31 2016, 01:07
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If I waited a couple months to use those BTC available for donation, I could've donated ~140$ instead of 100$ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) damn you bitcoin

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 30 2016, 16:04) *

yep. which spells were you using? and how is your Evade? do you use Health Draughts?

Kinda busy atm, I'll edit this post and tell you which spells I use in crude IWBTH and how fast I die~

Edit: turns out I can handle crude IWBTH with ocassional cures

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post Dec 31 2016, 02:07
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 30 2016, 20:10) *
What's the best way to grind cloth/staff prof without taking days and not dying? I'm currently using an average random staff (durability 1%), with my complete phase of surtr set (for cloth prof) and no abilities that will increase staff damage.
So you care more about increasing prof than reducing damage? (using heavy or light will make you more durable, but of course means no prof rewards)

Monster damage ramps up as turn count increases. Using Legendary leather on Nintendo or IWBTH, I felt like I wanted to flee or otherwise finish the round between turn 600 and 800. Using cloth, you'll want to finish earlier because you'll be more squishy, but if you play on lower difficulty, monsters will do less damage (and have less HP).

You want to play on as high a difficulty as you can (conserve stamina) while still being able to play mostly carefree. So the ideal difficulty probably comes out to around Hell, possibly Nintendo. (IWBTH is optimal if you can survive the damage, but you probably can't)

Don't be afraid to run if monsters start doing too much damage and you can't finish the round in time.

Make sure you're IWing in a 103 PXP equip's IW
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 30 2016, 22:03) *
actually Plate is quite useless. Leather is way better - at least you still have a bunch of Evade and Attack Speed.
I dunno. I don't think Plate is bad for IW. Lots of bonus HP and specific mitigation to all 3 physical attack types.
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If I waited a couple months to use those BTC available for donation, I could've donated ~140$ instead of 100$ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) damn you bitcoin
I strongly suggest considering Bitcoin as either as a currency, or as an investment tool, but not both unless you really know what you're doing. Otherwise the bitcoin market's volatility will be annoying.

(in other words, unless you're an investor, only buy bitcoin when you're going to spend it immediately)
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post Dec 31 2016, 02:21
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 31 2016, 01:07) *

I dunno. I don't think Plate is bad for IW. Lots of bonus HP and specific mitigation to all 3 physical attack types.

so, Plate still has a place? that's news. also, i guess even this niche use will cementify Shielding's role, leaving standard Plate a couple of steps behind

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 31 2016, 01:07) *

I strongly suggest considering Bitcoin as either as a currency, or as an investment tool, but not both unless you really know what you're doing. Otherwise the bitcoin market's volatility will be annoying.

(in other words, unless you're an investor, only buy bitcoin when you're going to spend it immediately)

well, purchasing/selling other currencies and gambling on the spread is already an investment, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 31 2016, 03:28
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 31 2016, 01:07) *

I dunno. I don't think Plate is bad for IW. Lots of bonus HP and specific mitigation to all 3 physical attack types.

Reinforced Leather >>> Plate
Maybe Shielding of Dampening/Protection. Mere Plate is bad for non 1h (and past a certain level is bad even for 1h)
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post Dec 31 2016, 03:55
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Hi everyone,

What do you think about my start built?
I tried my best to reduce my burden lower. However, it's is hard to find Mithril or Ethereal heavy equipments. Most item in shop is for <400 level. I still have to use the shield lv 92, since I can't find any lighter shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I read somewhere that if your burden is higher than 80, attack speed bonus is reduce heavily. Should I increase my Agility, or reduce it to 0? My burden is 82 so I can only gain 0.2% attack speed bonus.

Below are my equipments and Character info

Character: Attached Image

Ethereal Club
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8a57e0ebcc

Mithril Buckler
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5d81654959

Helmet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6469219cb7

Body:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=53624d1011

Hands:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c9fbd04fe6

Leg:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fd357d93fa

Feet:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ca87fc9e18



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post Dec 31 2016, 03:56
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Checked a month ago and checked again, the itembot's price for noodles is 60k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
you guys think if I sell noodles at 55k would they sell? or is someone playing oblivious of the forum?
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