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post Dec 22 2016, 10:49
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I am just following the advice from wiki

I want to be a 2H light armor

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post Dec 22 2016, 11:20
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Quite good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Dec 22 2016, 11:45
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 22 2016, 02:13) *

Wiki says:
Stat Equal to Priority
STR Level * ~0.5 Lowest
DEX Level * ~0.9 Low
AGI Level * ~0.9 Low
END Level + a bit Mid
INT Level + a bit High
WIS Level + a bit High

that part in which stat suggestions are written is seriously outdated, don't mind it.

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Dec 22 2016, 03:56) *

Is it normal to have extreme difficulty raising staff/cloth prof from zero? I'm using a staff and a full cloth set and dear lord am I casting Cure a lot, I rarely use Cure with 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) this is annoying, should I just use my Power set with staff to easily increase staff prof first? And then cloth prof?

cloth will raise by itself. staff is quite annoying, personally i stopped at 150. spells will raise with use as well, but milestones to see that (read: the thresholds at which you'll unlock T2 and T3) are quite far, so it's not you'll actually see your prof raising - apart for those two. imho you should keep going at least until you'll unlock T2, before jumping to conclusions.

QUOTE(mistakegamer @ Dec 22 2016, 09:49) *

I am just following the advice from wiki

I want to be a 2H light armor

are my attributions going right? or not?Attached Image

keep all your stats even apart for INT. skip it for now.
at least it'll be easier to remember (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 22 2016, 12:18
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 22 2016, 05:01) *

Considering mage instead, the highest opportunity cost of a turn is probably no more than 80c/turn, and for mages, marginal mana used/saved affects mana potions used, ~= 85c. Generous total benefit including spirit regen might be 300c every (300 * 15 = 4500) turns (depends on cast speed, but order of magnitude is all I'm looking at). But that's still only +0.07 c/turn. Still not something that'll pay off except for someone who plays many thousands of GFs, assuming my generous numbers.

Your numbers seem off.
My mana regeneration as mage is 3 mp/turn with RR (empirical at crude IW).
Without it should be 2.
1 mp every turn should be around 1 potion and 1 turn (165C) every ~1000 turns.
Factor in spirit regen and we should be well over 200C.
Even with a lot of charged prefix it should be near 0.2C per turn.

Still not a good investment but it shouldn't be so bad.
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post Dec 22 2016, 14:24
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I personally like RR. Back when I did 24 REs a day, I could waltz right in without forgetting that I was still at half MP/SP. Granted, a potion would clear that up just as well, but I prefer the mindlessness.
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post Dec 22 2016, 14:41
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QUOTE(DamienCash @ Dec 22 2016, 13:24) *

I personally like RR. Back when I did 24 REs a day, I could waltz right in without forgetting that I was still at half MP/SP. Granted, a potion would clear that up just as well, but I prefer the mindlessness.

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post Dec 22 2016, 15:35
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Hey guys holy mage questions again, should i go for 3 phase armor pieces or a full set?
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post Dec 22 2016, 15:47
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3+2 or 4+1 if you have 4 radiant phase & prof staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

5+0 only useful in SG for holy/dark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 22 2016, 16:06
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2 prof piece for no imp,1 prof piece for imp
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:03
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QUOTE(issary @ Dec 22 2016, 21:06) *

2 prof piece for no imp,1 prof piece for imp


I use 2 prof. pieces. But with imperil give me better clear speed. (in arena play with dark set)
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:23
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Thanks,What do you recommend for the non phase pieces, warding maybe?

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post Dec 22 2016, 17:25
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Dec 23 2016, 02:23) *

Thanks,What do you recommend for the non phase pieces, warding maybe?

For Holy you want Heaven-sent likewise for dark you want Demon-Fiend and for elemental you want Elementalist
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:25
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Dec 22 2016, 23:03) *

I use 2 prof. pieces. But with imperil give me better clear speed. (in arena play with dark set)

I thought that will lead to overflow.
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:28
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Dec 22 2016, 23:23) *

Thanks,What do you recommend for the non phase pieces, warding maybe?

Only prof cotton acceptable,else I'd rather use phase.
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:28
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Sorry,windfury.

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post Dec 22 2016, 17:31
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QUOTE(issary @ Dec 22 2016, 16:28) *

Only prof cotton acceptable,else I'd rather use phase.

aye-aye. for a starter, 5 Phase may indeed go a good choice
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:33
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QUOTE(issary @ Dec 22 2016, 15:25) *
I thought that will lead to overflow.
Holy and Dark can both use 2 prof pieces regardless of Imperil or not. Without Imperil, it's obvious, but with Imperil, Imperil's specific mitigation reduction plus prof specific mitigation reduction isn't always enough to eliminate monster mitigation.

I'm not sure what's optimal, but using 2 prof pieces isn't too terrible of an idea.
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post Dec 22 2016, 17:45
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Damage wise only, i don't find trouble with 1 prof piece only.
If i lower difficulty to nintendo the clear goes smoothly without imperil all right, but with imperil i 1-2 shot everything, so i consider it better than a full effect damage implementation of 2 prof pieces.

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post Dec 22 2016, 19:39
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Imperil holy mage:
You want to aim for around 1.65 times of your levels proficiency in divine. This reduces the most troublesome monsters' holy specific mitigation to 0 after imperil (-25 flat from imperil and scaling for prof). This can be done a few ways (Prof staff + 5 phase; Oak staff + 1 prof 4 phase) you can vary the amount of prof pieces according to how much you want to forge.

However, any other element for imperil style maging would likely be more desirable due to willow staves advantage in counter resist and deprecating proficiency.

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post Dec 22 2016, 19:55
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Should Holy Mages mix in Dark spells in their spell cycle to pop Breached Defense debuff for bonus dmg (and get Blunted Attack debuff to pop for bonus dmg)?

Should Holy Mages get an Oak staff or a Katalox staff?

And can Oak staffs get the Penetrator (Counter-Resist) Potency and stack it ontop of its inherent Counter-Resist?

I've never considered Oak staffs before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Always considered Phase Heimdall over Cotton Heaven-sent for that matter.

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