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By the way, what is the common agreement on the usefulness of Phase prefixes?
In which order would you put these: Charged, Frugal, Radiant, Mystic

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Dec 21 2016, 00:12

By the way, what is the common agreement on the usefulness of Phase prefixes?
In which order would you put these: Charged, Frugal, Radiant, Mystic

Radiant, Charged, Mystic, Frugal, no prefix.

I think 95% of the mages would pretty much agree on this order.

No, you can aether enchant any type of weapon (battlecaster and focus staff included).
You cannot get eco on focus staff afaik, but that's it.

Oh.

From what I remember sssss2 compared 1h to mage and 1h mage (no imperil but with his fully forged force shield) and 1h mage was still needing a lot of cure on PFUDORFest.
Imperil will probably help, but more defense should be always good.

I wonder what sssss2's stats were like, no imperil 1h is slow for me even on nintendo :<. And last time 1h mage topic came around, sssss2 mentioned that 3+2 was better than full 5 phase? I think phase grants much more evade.

Don't know how hard end round PFUDORfest monsters hit but for an Legendary IW 88 rounds I average 8 cures and 1 full cure in 1300 turns. The only thing I can see as of annoyance is the constant imperil resists...

16.12 mana conservation + 3.5 less interference vs 8.05 parry
25.75 mana conservation+ 2.82 less interference vs 6.5 block (barrier) or 9.04 parry (nimble)

Probably shield is a little bit better, but the difference is not that big.
Possibly nimble > barrier for 1h mage since magical damage should be next to nothing.

Differences seem very negligible, I just don't think the 15% will solve your mana problems if you had one. Guess I'll stick to full defense waki nimble + buckler barrier.

Yeah, fire or cold is probably the most cost-efficient element for 1h mage. Holy and dark gears and mana costs are too much. Elec and wind gears are generally more expensive than the fire and cold because elec and wind go best with Willow, which is incredible on PF with Imperil (plus, tough monsters are a tiny bit weaker to elec and wind if your prof without isn't ~0.68+). So what remains is fire and cold. Cold's probably a bit better, and medium-tier gears are likely similarly cheap.

Why is Willow better than Redwood for Elec and Wind?

Why is Willow better than Redwood for Elec and Wind?

* innate CR: this means that even without further boost by IW you'll already have a decent base.
* higher Deprecating prof, which is very useful for Imperil.

Why is Willow better than Redwood for Elec and Wind?

Counter-resist and Willow only comes in Elec/Wind prefixes.

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Radiant, Charged, Mystic, Frugal, no prefix.

I think 95% of the mages would pretty much agree on this order.

Radiant is overrated & overpriced for what it gives :<


This post has been edited by kyouri: Dec 21 2016, 00:43

* innate CR: this means that even without further boost by IW you'll already have a decent base.
* higher Deprecating prof, which is very useful for Imperil.

Counter-resist and Willow only comes in Elec/Wind prefixes.

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Oh, cool (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

PS:
I guess Cold 1H Mage is the way i'll go, since i already have these:
Magnificent Arctic Wakizashi of the Nimble
Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of the Nimble(Picked up from Bazaar)
Let's see if i maybe find an Arctic Battlecaster Waki too.

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Dec 21 2016, 00:49

Oh.
I wonder what sssss2's stats were like, no imperil 1h is slow for me even on nintendo :<. And last time 1h mage topic came around, sssss2 mentioned that 3+2 was better than full 5 phase? I think phase grants much more evade.

I think he used 2+3 to get to 1.0 prof.

Don't know how hard end round PFUDORfest monsters hit but for an Legendary IW 88 rounds I average 8 cures and 1 full cure in 1300 turns. The only thing I can see as of annoyance is the constant imperil resists...

They hit significantly harder.
20 levels ago or so I could do 97 rounds PFUDOR IW (1h) with no haste or shadow veil and few cures.
PFUDORFest I would need both + full cure for the last rounds.

Differences seem very negligible, I just don't think the 15% will solve your mana problems if you had one. Guess I'll stick to full defense waki nimble + buckler barrier.

I don't know, I'd say it would depends on difficulty, for normal arenas mana conservation would be better, IW or Fest full parry/block would be better.

Radiant is overrated & overpriced for what it gives :<

A Pmax radiant cap would increase my damage by 3.9% (149 mdb over 3810 actual).
If that is overrated I really have no idea what isn't.
It's in the same league of slaughter for 1H.

Why is Willow better than Redwood for Elec and Wind?

Redwood works similarly well with all elemental elements. Willow has only Elec, Wind, and Dark EDB.

Without considering element, Willow is better on PF for Imperil mage due to reasons Scremaz listed: extreme depreciating prof in addition to CR is incredibly useful, since you want your Imperils to be resisted as little as possible. (Past a certain point, getting all your Imperils to land will be one of the primary clearing bottlenecks)

So Willow is better than Redwood for Imperil mage on PF. Willow has only Elec, Wind, and Dark EDB. Elec and Wind are also better against tough monsters if you haven't gotten to ~0.68 prof yet.

Thus, the popularity of Elec, Wind, and Willow, among mages who use Imperil and play on PF.

I calculated incoming physical damages(*) of 1h mages (level 500 and fully forged Peerless equips).
* = (1 - waki_parry) * (1 - buckler_block)


1) Wakizashi Battlecaster + Buckler Barrier
= 22.92 %
+ 16.12 % Mana Conservation


2) Wakizashi Nimble + Buckler Battlecaster
= 23.21 %
+ 25.75 % Mana Conservation (LMax)


A comparison between 1) and 2)

1) 98.75 % incoming damage (22.92 / 23.21)
vs
2) 88.52 % mana consumption (74.25 / 83.88)

I'll use 2) if TenB give me one of them.


3) Wakizashi Nimble + Buckler Barrier
= 17.89 %

It gets 77.10 % damage compared to 2). (17.89 / 23.21)


* Buckler Nimble is absolutely inferior to Buckler Barrier.

And last time 1h mage topic came around, sssss2 mentioned that 3+2 was better than full 5 phase? I think phase grants much more evade.

Think why most 1h melee use Rapiers instead of Shortswords which have a higher wd and parry chance...

1h mage should set 3+2 for imperil and 2+3 for non-imperil.

* Buckler Nimble is absolutely inferior to Buckler Barrier.

Right, did the math, 9.3% more incoming damage.
Probably worth considering only if peerless.

Think why most 1h melee use Rapiers instead of Shortswords which have a higher wd and parry chance...

1h mage should set 3+2 for imperil and 2+3 for non-imperil.

Well, sacrificing phase is a bit worse than losing <10WD (which are basically slaughter armor vs non-slaughter armor).
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I calculated incoming physical damages(*) of 1h mages (level 500 and fully forged Peerless equips).
* = (1 - waki_parry) * (1 - buckler_block)
1) Wakizashi Battlecaster + Buckler Barrier
= 22.92 %
+ 16.12 % Mana Conservation
2) Wakizashi Nimble + Buckler Battlecaster
= 23.21 %
+ 25.75 % Mana Conservation (LMax)
A comparison between 1) and 2)

1) 98.75 % incoming damage (22.92 / 23.21)
vs
2) 88.52 % mana consumption (74.25 / 83.88)

I'll use 2) if TenB give me one of them.
3) Wakizashi Nimble + Buckler Barrier
= 17.89 %

It gets 77.10 % damage compared to 2). (17.89 / 23.21)
* Buckler Nimble is absolutely inferior to Buckler Barrier.

Excellent, thanks for the info senpai. What about between 2) or 3) would you still go 2)?

Think why most 1h melee use Rapiers instead of Shortswords which have a higher wd and parry chance...

1h mage should set 3+2 for imperil and 2+3 for non-imperil.

Ahh I see, guess I'll go 3+2 non imperil 1.0 prof factor with staff and 3+2 with imperil 1h mage.

Elec mage could be reduce resist.

My 1h mage build not completed yet (too low prof, 1 cotton).

Here is my lv 493 on pfest data with waki battlecaster + buckler barrier (low block base).

- 500 round
MP Potion: 79 / MP Draft: 42 / HP Draft: 36 / SP Draft: 5
Cure: 24

- 1000 round
MP Potion: 151 / MP Draft: 84 / HP Draft: 73 / SP Draft: 31 / HP Potion: 6 / SP Potion: 3
Cure: 152


I think battlecaster > barrier on arena, early (500) round on pfest and anyplace on low difficulty.
When I compared battlecaster with barrier on 500 round pfest.
Barrier spent too many mana potion, but not many reduce cure (both used similar cure).
But they are not forged and I use scroll, so maybe I made something wrong.

battlecaster vs barrier (500 round on pfest, not forged and with scrolls)
Mana Potion: 51 vs 93
Cure: 72 vs 64

This post has been edited by NerfThis: Dec 21 2016, 05:50

For top fire mage PFWD can have similar t/r to PFRD even short of about 6 edb.

Oh the one I gave you, yeah you should reforge it, swift strike is useless
btw you should only post the weapon's link, did you type all that?

I figure if I make it easy, busy experts are more likely to respond.
Didn't type it. Simple cut and paste,with a couple search and replaces for formatting. One or two minute's work.

Swift Strike is nearly completely useless, I'd reforge. A single artifact drop will more than make up for the cost of a shard.

Don't try for perfection though, not at your level: just try to start out with a useful potency (Butcher or Fatality) at level 1, and then stick with whatever results until level 10.

Thanks to both of you for confirming my recollection that Swift Strike was universally unpopular. I assume that Dark Descent reforge services have no bearing on IW Lvl 1,as I always see it advertised starting with 2.

Boy howdy. The link (this one) is in my signature if you still need it. Sorry if I am late, haha.

Thank you DamienCash.I'll check it out.

For top fire mage PFWD can have similar t/r to PFRD even short of about 6 edb.

...And a decent LSWD of elec mage beat PFWD of fire mage.

at what point is it better to forge ADB on armor past lvl 5

right now my rapier is at lvl 54 physical dmg. i know that i should forge the armor and leggings first but when is it better to forge those over your weapon?

at what point is it better to forge ADB on armor past lvl 5

right now my rapier is at lvl 54 physical dmg. i know that i should forge the armor and leggings first but when is it better to forge those over your weapon?

increase your power slaughter ADB up to 50 lvl is good enough , after that lvl ~ ADB increase is very small (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


well , increase your rapier first up to 80 lvl , than you can upgrade your power slaughter ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


weapon ADB increase is higher compare with your gears plus cheaper since no RA for this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 21 2016, 09:14

at what point is it better to forge ADB on armor past lvl 5

right now my rapier is at lvl 54 physical dmg. i know that i should forge the armor and leggings first but when is it better to forge those over your weapon?

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4439898

The numbers in that post are guesses though. Still, you should definitely be into forging armor by now. Forging has very diminishing returns at higher forge levels.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4439898

The numbers in that post are guesses though. Still, you should definitely be into forging armor by now. Forging has very diminishing returns at higher forge levels.

yeah, i definitely need to start forging armor. i noticed that the latest levels on my weapon are only giving me around 6 ADB.