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By the way, at what level will i have a chance of finding usable Waki of the Battlecaster and Frugal Phases of whatever element?

By the way, at what level will i have a chance of finding usable Waki of the Battlecaster and Frugal Phases of whatever element?

350+ maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


buying them are better and faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 20 2016, 19:09

By the way, at what level will i have a chance of finding usable Waki of the Battlecaster and Frugal Phases of whatever element?

On your own, pretty much never. The only real way to get sets is to buy them.

Don't consider Frugal essential. It's nice, but IIRC, mana costs aren't unbearable, even for 1h mage, especially when compared to the income/turn of 1h. (The other bigger problem with frugal is it's not as easy to find as plain Phase, especially at your level. Speaking of your level, you should get to 310 before even thinking about mage or 1h mage, 0-cooldown 3-target Imperil is essential)

350+ maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
buying them are better and faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

On your own, pretty much never. The only real way to get sets is to buy them.

Don't consider Frugal essential. It's nice, but IIRC, mana costs aren't unbearable, even for 1h mage, especially when compared to the income/turn of 1h. (The other bigger problem with frugal is it's not as easy to find as plain Phase, especially at your level. Speaking of your level, you should get to 310 before even thinking about mage or 1h mage, 0-cooldown 3-target Imperil is essential)

I meant finding as finding something to buy at the right level, sorry for the misunderstanding.
The question was more of one for the future, for now i'm surely not going to mage.
So, at about level 350 i should maybe find something, it seems.

The only thing about buckler of the battlecaster is.
You go 1h mage instead of full mage for the block, cutting your clearspeed.
Then you choose a shield with crap block, that forged lv 50 barely surpasses the block of an unforged force shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

You have so much defensive negation as a 1h mage due to the evade/block/parry stacking that even the loss in block rate shouldn't matter too much even late peerless IW rounds. Obviously the best would still be waki of the nimble + buckler of barrier but once you get tanky enough the only improvement to clear speed is to reducing ongoing battle costs.

I have not done the calculations but I am fairly sure that waki nimble + buckler of battlecaster beats out waki of battlecaster + buckler of barrier in terms of stat efficiency / trade off. I'll probably do it soon before hansvar auctions off the peerless buckler of barrier.

Sometimes a mage with a unforged force shield block rate is more than plenty.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Anyone who does any significant IW will very likely be buying shards from other players.

High-level players who grind a lot get lots of shards and rarely use them. Low-level players haven't done anywhere near as much but need to replace equipment relatively quickly (or need to start on IW for the first time), and consequently can easily use a significant amount of shards.

Btw, I'm no longer doing IW, so I suppose there's no harm in sharing a secret: IW services are very profitable for those who don't have the crystal perks or high training. It's a great source of income for medium to medium-high level players. IW services for specific potencies are even more lucrative; based on the way I did it, at least, expected profit is quite high, far higher than the profit of ordinary grinding. (In a perfectly competitive market, or even in a reasonably competitive market, IW profit would be close to the profit of standard grinding. This is true when comparing standard IW-to-10 costs against GF income for a player with full training and perks, but the "acceptable" market cost for getting specific potencies is much higher than the standard income per turn from GF)

What I'm getting at is that there's a big potential opportunity there for anyone who can clear at a reasonable rate, especially now that I'm not doing it anymore.

Whoa, wait a minute... Did you just say you don't do IW anymore? Superlatanium, the IW-Wizzard that IW'd all my gear? (yes, I mean all)

So, my robe, that thing that cost me 50 shards and had you reforge at level9 7 times, was your last?

Thanks for your excellent service then. Thank you very much.

I have not done the calculations but I am fairly sure that waki nimble + buckler of battlecaster beats out waki of battlecaster + buckler of barrier in terms of stat efficiency

I made them, and I can assure you that it's the exact opposite (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
That's why I asked.

Is the mana conservation from the higher bonus of the shield and the chance to enchant the nimble weapon worth the loss?

This post has been edited by ppp82p: Dec 20 2016, 21:23

Just been trying out DW, and with these stats i receive quite a bit of damage on Hard:
62.5% physical mitigation
57.4% magical mitigation
41.8% evade chance
0% block chance
60% parry chance
56.7% resist chance

What kind of stats would i have to have to not get wrecked with DW?

Just been trying out DW, and with these stats i receive quite a bit of damage on Hard:
62.5% physical mitigation
57.4% magical mitigation
41.8% evade chance
0% block chance
60% parry chance
56.7% resist chance

What kind of stats would i have to have to not get wrecked with DW?

70.2 pmit
64.2 mmit
50.9 evade
0 block
77.9 parry
70.5 resist

I manage pfudor with these. But the damage output is a let down compared to 1h.
The set is the shade in my signature + axe/rapier combo.

This post has been edited by ppp82p: Dec 20 2016, 23:04

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So, i'd have to change my gear quite a bit to manage DW decently.
A shame (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
Got to say that 1H is absolutely the best of Melee styles (like everyone says (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)).

So, i'd have to change my gear quite a bit to manage DW decently.
A shame (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
Got to say that 1H is absolutely the best of Melee styles (like everyone says (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)).

Yup.
Anyway, it's probably better a Club/Rapier build, but it's harder to IW them since you have to get only two potencies and max them.

1h is still the best of course.

i can survive PF quite decently with:

71.9 pmit
64.9 mmit
60.4 evade
0 block
86.7 parry
67.7 resist

but yep, damage is quite lower than 1H. wth high crit stats it's still decent to look at mobs' HP bars when Spirit Stance and Heartseeker stack (or Heartseeker at the very least), but you can still feel it's a bit sub-optimal

60.4 evade

Nice forging, Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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That Evade and Parry, goddamn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Ok, DW is quite postponed.

That Evade and Parry, goddamn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

they could be better though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Nice forging, Scremaz (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

nah, not too much. 10 on Bra and Hat, 5 on all the others. and i still have one Mag piece and only 3 soulfused ones. i expect for it to go at 65 or so when i'll complete my armor set and by forging it properly.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 20 2016, 23:19

That Evade and Parry, goddamn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Parry is because Rapier+Waki. I have 88.6 with that combo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But boosting it too much isn't exactly optimal.
The mainhand's is wasted for the most part when you calc it multiplicatively with the base given by the dex and the offhand's boosted by 50% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The evade is indeed nice. Full fleet/sd with a bit of forging, 10 on everything I'd say (edit: ninja'd)

I have only 1 sd and 1 fleet and no forge, that's why I have "only" 50.9 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by ppp82p: Dec 20 2016, 23:21

if you really worry so much, this is my current set:

[Rapier | Wakizashi]

[Helmet | Breastplate | Gauntlets | Leggings | Boots]

If you really wanted to go battlecaster I'd actually rather get it on the buckler and pair it with a nimble waki as you get 25% mana conservation vs the 15% and the ability to aether enchant your waki.

No, you can aether enchant any type of weapon (battlecaster and focus staff included).
You cannot get eco on focus staff afaik, but that's it.

DEA shield overrated due to the amount of defensive stats you get (60%+ evade/block/parry/resist with no interference). Some strength improve your OFC which shouldn't be overlooked, it does 50%~? after imperil and will be up every few rounds depending on clear speed.

From what I remember sssss2 compared 1h to mage and 1h mage (no imperil but with his fully forged force shield) and 1h mage was still needing a lot of cure on PFUDORFest.
Imperil will probably help, but more defense should be always good.

I have not done the calculations but I am fairly sure that waki nimble + buckler of battlecaster beats out waki of battlecaster + buckler of barrier in terms of stat efficiency / trade off. I'll probably do it soon before hansvar auctions off the peerless buckler of barrier.

16.12 mana conservation + 3.5 less interference vs 8.05 parry
25.75 mana conservation+ 2.82 less interference vs 6.5 block (barrier) or 9.04 parry (nimble)

Probably shield is a little bit better, but the difference is not that big.
Possibly nimble > barrier for 1h mage since magical damage should be next to nothing.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Dec 20 2016, 23:27

if you really worry so much, this is my current set:

[Rapier | Wakizashi]

[Helmet | Breastplate | Gauntlets | Leggings | Boots]

On the Breastplate, 5 straight levels of Jug at IW5, you lucky boy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

On the Breastplate, 5 straight levels of Jug at IW5, you lucky boy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

it happens, every now and then.