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post Dec 2 2016, 20:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 2 2016, 19:12) *

the purpose is boosting what you are using, so if you're already using Mind Control then you're good to go. btw, with the same ability Confuse is boosted too, so you may want to try to use that as well. possibly not in already sleeping mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
and if you did, could you please report if a Confused mob can use its MP/SP attacks on other mobs? i stopped using it because i didn't note it...

Never really used confuse, but that piqued my interest, so i'll try that.

Edit: seems like only normal hits are used on other mobs

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post Dec 2 2016, 21:23
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just to be sure, the reduction bonus on mana upkeep for IA slots is related only to applied slots, right?
i mean, if i had IA4 but only 3 spells used, mana reduction would be 30% or 40%?

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 2 2016, 19:25) *

Edit: seems like only normal hits are used on other mobs

duh. quite useless then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Dec 2 2016, 21:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 2 2016, 17:29) *

could they stack multiplicatively? something like ( 1 + 0.02 ) ^ (Butcher_level) = 1.02^4 = 1.0824. not so different. given the spread i'm prone to think it's additive but truth is, it doesn't matter so much.
anything else?

Everything is possible at this point.
But you see, even a small difference will introduce a margin of error that will make calculating forge to 100 unreliable.
That's why I used my staff, since it has no archmage at all.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 2 2016, 20:23) *

just to be sure, the reduction bonus on mana upkeep for IA slots is related only to applied slots, right?
i mean, if i had IA4 but only 3 spells used, mana reduction would be 30% or 40%?

40%
It would be pretty crappy otherwise (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Dec 3 2016, 00:45
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thinking about building a DW set and look at what drops for me Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

not the best but good enough

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post Dec 3 2016, 00:46
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 2 2016, 14:04) *
Forge formula is a bit wrong and always gives slightly higher result than the real one.

100 forging of ADB/MDB gives, more or less, ~1.6515x, calculated on my peerless oak of focus.
This would give 1.103 if used to calculate the value of butcher5.

Considering that there are some weird roundings on equipment values (focus staves have 0.01 more MDB for example) I would say that we can assume 10% as correct.
Ok. Based on some forged Peerless

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d768c5a72a
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fe50bf1dc8
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=57eae86822

it seems like a mostly-accurate equation is

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function reverseForgeMultiplierDamage(forgedBase, forgeLevel){
    var multiplier = 1 + 0.2735 * Math.log(0.1 * forgeLevel + 1); // 1 + 0.278875 * Math.log(0.1 * forgeLevel + 1); says the wiki, but wrong
    return forgedBase / multiplier;
  }
  function reverseForgeMultiplierPlain(forgedBase, forgeLevel){
    var multiplier = 1 + 0.1878 * Math.log(0.1 * forgeLevel + 1); // 1 + 0.2 * Math.log(0.1 * forgeLevel + 1); says the wiki, but wrong
    return forgedBase / multiplier;
  }
Most errors seem off by a percentage point or less (except for Pmit, which is all the way down at 94% when forged to 50 for some reason).

Maybe it's not perfect, but it's good enough for everything I care about.
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post Dec 3 2016, 01:09
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I have a question that is a bit out of place:
Do you all know of a nice mouse with programmable keys that's near dirt cheap?

EDIT:
And, a more HV related question:
Do you use a script for Random Encounters? If yes, which one?

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post Dec 3 2016, 01:40
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 3 2016, 00:09) *

I have a question that is a bit out of place:
Do you all know of a nice mouse with programmable keys that's near dirt cheap?

EDIT:
And, a more HV related question:
Do you use a script for Random Encounters? If yes, which one?

No idea about the mouse.

I use "Countdown Timer for the Random Encounter Event on E-Hentai" (Version 0.0).
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post Dec 3 2016, 01:53
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Dec 3 2016, 00:40) *

I use "Countdown Timer for the Random Encounter Event on E-Hentai" (Version 0.0).

What's the point of a random encounter timer? There's always a timepiece of some kind around a pc.
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post Dec 3 2016, 01:56
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Dec 3 2016, 00:53) *

What's the point of a random encounter timer? There's always a timepiece of some kind around a pc.

Keeping the last time of a RE in your head instead of a script is less convenient (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 3 2016, 02:05
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Dec 3 2016, 00:40) *

No idea about the mouse.

I use "Countdown Timer for the Random Encounter Event on E-Hentai" (Version 0.0).

Installed, seems pretty cool.
Does it restarts the timer at the Dawn of a new day?

Edit: Thinking about it, i play from more than one device, probably REs scripts aren't going to work so well for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 3 2016, 04:02
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 3 2016, 00:05) *
Edit: Thinking about it, i play from more than one device, probably REs scripts aren't going to work so well for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
If it were me, I'd store the count on the internet somewhere so the script can Post to it and get an accurate timer across all devices.
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post Dec 3 2016, 04:06
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 3 2016, 03:02) *

If it were me, I'd store the count on the internet somewhere so the script can Post to it and get an accurate timer across all devices.

That's actually a nice idea, if scripts worked on Android phones and i still had my Server i'd try to do it.
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post Dec 3 2016, 16:31
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Just realized The supportive 2 panel, below Better Protection Element Stuff is the "Spike Shield Bonus" for Protection. Which pity damage but good at proc for debuff.

So far, I choose Fire due to its reduce damage nature. Is it ok? Or is there any better debuff element spike shield? (So far only Dark element reduce defense, but that is not included in melee build)
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post Dec 3 2016, 16:33
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QUOTE(revivesaber @ Dec 3 2016, 15:31) *

Just realized The supportive 2 panel, below Better Protection Element Stuff is the "Spike Shield Bonus" for Protection. Which pity damage but good at proc for debuff.

So far, I choose Fire due to its reduce damage nature. Is it ok? Or is there any better debuff element spike shield? (So far only Dark element reduce defense, but that is not included in melee build)

which strike does your weapon have?
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post Dec 3 2016, 16:35
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QUOTE(revivesaber @ Dec 3 2016, 15:31) *

Just realized The supportive 2 panel, below Better Protection Element Stuff is the "Spike Shield Bonus" for Protection. Which pity damage but good at proc for debuff.

So far, I choose Fire due to its reduce damage nature. Is it ok? Or is there any better debuff element spike shield? (So far only Dark element reduce defense, but that is not included in melee build)

Fire Spike Shield or the Spike Shield matching your weapon Elemental strike are the better choices.

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post Dec 3 2016, 20:22
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I'm a Wind element caster. What ability should I get next?

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post Dec 4 2016, 03:25
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Dec 3 2016, 19:22) *

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I'm a Wind element caster. What ability should I get next?

better silence? personally i consider it a bit more useful than both weakens combined...
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post Dec 4 2016, 09:57
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Just to be sure, I need catalysts for every stat right? Not like the rare mats where you need only 1 per level.
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post Dec 4 2016, 10:00
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Dec 4 2016, 07:57) *
Just to be sure, I need catalysts for every stat right? Not like the rare mats where you need only 1 per level.
Indeed
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post Dec 4 2016, 10:28
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 4 2016, 16:00) *

Indeed

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