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post Nov 28 2016, 15:25
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So there's just a *few* posts between the start and finish, so I'm not gonna try and find an answer between the 4.6k pages.

Any recommended level for going onto higher difficulties? Got myself to 42 solely on normal, not sure if I should try and step up at all anytime soon.

Apologies if I'm butting in anywhere, by the by.
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post Nov 28 2016, 15:27
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QUOTE(CPUAquaHeart @ Nov 28 2016, 14:25) *

So there's just a *few* posts between the start and finish, so I'm not gonna try and find an answer between the 4.6k pages.

Any recommended level for going onto higher difficulties? Got myself to 42 solely on normal, not sure if I should try and step up at all anytime soon.

Apologies if I'm butting in anywhere, by the by.

Right from the start, you should play at least at Hard.
I often played at Hell, even at low level.
It depends on your equipment, though, and if you feel you can manage.
Just try out the difficulties and see if you can handle it.
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post Nov 28 2016, 15:45
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QUOTE(CPUAquaHeart @ Nov 28 2016, 20:25) *

So there's just a *few* posts between the start and finish, so I'm not gonna try and find an answer between the 4.6k pages.

Any recommended level for going onto higher difficulties? Got myself to 42 solely on normal, not sure if I should try and step up at all anytime soon.

Apologies if I'm butting in anywhere, by the by.


at your lvl , hard is good enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


try to increase your difficulty one by one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

don't try to play on IWBTH & PFUDOR until you have unlock spark of life or spirit shield magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



don't worry , if you can't survive at that difficulty now , you will someday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Nov 29 2016, 00:11
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I'm looking for advice on this Legendary Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier, until which level should i forge its block chance, before it starts being a waste?
And apart from the Block and PABs, which other stat would you recommend me to forge?
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post Nov 29 2016, 00:45
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 23:11) *

I'm looking for advice on this Legendary Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier, until which level should i forge its block chance, before it starts being a waste?

i guess you can go up to 20 or so. in two words, whatever point your wallet allows you

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 23:11) *

And apart from the Block and PABs, which other stat would you recommend me to forge?

everything, until HG wood is requested (lv6? 7? whatever). past that point, only block and PABs.
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post Nov 29 2016, 00:46
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 22:11) *
I'm looking for advice on this Legendary Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier, until which level should i forge its block chance, before it starts being a waste?
And apart from the Block and PABs, which other stat would you recommend me to forge?
That's a very very good type for your level. HGW is the main limiting factor, so for most I'd recommend forging to around 20+ (after which 5 or 6 HGW per level starts getting too expensive).

But since you don't grind very much (I think?), even that might be too costly given your income. It's situational, so look at your finances and think about it, but if you have funds don't be afraid to spend a lot on the shield, since you won't replace it for ages.

Don't think much about forging the PABs more, their marginal benefit is much lower than forging block. (do forge Pmit and Crushing and specific mitigations to 5 though)
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post Nov 29 2016, 00:55
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 23:11) *

I'm looking for advice on this Legendary Reinforced Buckler of the Barrier, until which level should i forge its block chance, before it starts being a waste?
And apart from the Block and PABs, which other stat would you recommend me to forge?

Depends on how much you're able/willing to spend. Upgrading Block to 10 will cost you ~130k worth of materials, raising it to 15 will require an investment of ~330k. However, credits spent on forging Block are one of your best investments, and should you decide to replace this shield with a better one, you'll get back 90% of all the materials invested (except Catalysts).
You may raise the other stats to 5 as well, but once you require bindings for further upgrades, the ROI will be rather poor - better spend your credits on something more useful instead (aka Block).
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post Nov 29 2016, 00:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 28 2016, 23:45) *

i guess you can go up to 20 or so. in two words, whatever point your wallet allows you
everything, until HG wood is requested (lv6? 7? whatever). past that point, only block and PABs.

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 28 2016, 23:46) *

That's a very very good type for your level. HGW is the main limiting factor, so for most I'd recommend forging to around 20+ (after which 5 or 6 HGW per level starts getting too expensive).

But since you don't grind very much (I think?), even that might be too costly given your income. It's situational, so look at your finances and think about it, but if you have funds don't be afraid to spend a lot on the shield, since you won't replace it for ages.

Don't think much about forging the PABs more, their marginal benefit is much lower than forging block. (do forge Pmit and Crushing and specific mitigations to 5 though)

QUOTE(Rhydin @ Nov 28 2016, 23:55) *

Depends on how much you're able/willing to spend. Upgrading Block to 10 will cost you ~130k worth of materials, raising it to 15 will require an investment of ~330k. However, credits spent on forging Block are one of your best investments, and should you decide to replace this shield with a better one, you'll get back 90% of all the materials invested (except Catalysts).
You may raise the other stats to 5 as well, but once you require bindings for further upgrades, the ROI will be rather poor - better spend your credits on something more useful instead (aka Block).

Well, for now i've got about 150 Mid Wood and 25 High Wood, so forging everything to 5 and then Block a bit more should be possible, after spending quite a bit on Catalysts and hopefully finding some more (low cost) Bindings of Barrier.
Yeah, i don't grind that much right now, got little free time unfortunately, will hopefully have some more soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Thanks for the advice.

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post Nov 29 2016, 02:21
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Forge the block the more you can, even 1 or 2 upgrades per day from now on.
It always pay off, and you can sell it in the future, or salvage it to get back mats when you get something better.
The only thing you lose is a couple of thing and the catalysts, but those pay off very fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 29 2016, 02:51
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 29 2016, 01:21) *

Forge the block the more you can, even 1 or 2 upgrades per day from now on.
It always pay off, and you can sell it in the future, or salvage it to get back mats when you get something better.
The only thing you lose is a couple of thing and the catalysts, but those pay off very fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I' ll try to forge the block up to lv 16 for now (after i get the needed bindings of barrier), the High Wood i have should be sufficient up to that level (calculated with sssss2 spreadsheet), then i'll stop because i'm too poor to handle the costs, at least for now.
About selling, that's impossible since this is getting soulbinded, and i'm quite sceptical about finding a better shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 29 2016, 13:06
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Does anything happens if I shrine a set of chicken figurines?
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post Nov 29 2016, 13:38
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Does anything happens if I shrine a set of chicken figurines?

yes, you can earn 7 EDs. or 7 Hath. or 7 LEs. etc etc. or most likely, a combo of that. something like that.
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post Nov 29 2016, 13:50
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Can anyone confirm whether Vigorous Vitality affects health restored by spells and items like cure, regen, potions, draughts or not?

They all said no but that's years ago and the perk's description does say increase base health.
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post Nov 29 2016, 13:57
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QUOTE(Unindex @ Nov 29 2016, 11:50) *
Can anyone confirm whether Vigorous Vitality affects health restored by spells and items like cure, regen, potions, draughts or not?
I was pretty sure it did
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They all said no
Who?
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post Nov 29 2016, 13:57
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QUOTE(Unindex @ Nov 29 2016, 12:50) *

Can anyone confirm whether Vigorous Vitality affects health restored by spells and items like cure, regen, potions, draughts or not?

They all said no but that's years ago and the perk's description does say increase base health.


Yes, they are affected since it now increases base health.
A few page back I tested cure efficiency and I can 100% confirm that it's based on base health and scale linearly from 100% to 150% between 0 and 1.0 support prof.

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post Nov 29 2016, 14:15
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So it's effect has changed then
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 29 2016, 13:57) *
Who?

The veterans back when the perk didn't increase base health but total value. Just want be sure before I'm down to zero credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Nov 29 2016, 14:18
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Hi, I'm new here. I got this rare item Mithra's Flower and I was wondering what to do with it.

Should I use it at the shrine now? Wait until my level is higher and then use it? Sell it to another player?
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post Nov 29 2016, 14:28
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QUOTE(orsys @ Nov 29 2016, 12:18) *
Hi, I'm new here. I got this rare item Mithra's Flower and I was wondering what to do with it.

Should I use it at the shrine now? Wait until my level is higher and then use it? Sell it to another player?
If I were you, save your trophies until you really need a higher quality / higher level weapon, and use some of them. (Don't bother with shrining for armor) But after level 200ish, you'll be (moderately) able to buy some equips from other players, and trophy rewards won't be quality enough to be worth gambling on, so past that point, sell the trophies to trophy buyers instead.

Of course, if you never have a real pressing need for another halfway usable Superior weapon, better to always sell the trophies. Gambling isn't good for the poor unless you have no other option.
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post Nov 29 2016, 14:35
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Thanks. Another question: around what level should I be able to finish the Grindfest and what kind of armor/weapon would be best for this? Right now I'm using leather/2H but I could switch to something else.
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post Nov 29 2016, 14:43
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QUOTE(orsys @ Nov 29 2016, 12:35) *
Thanks. Another question: around what level should I be able to finish the Grindfest
350+, way too far away to think about
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and what kind of armor/weapon would be best for this? Right now I'm using leather/2H but I could switch to something else.
2h/leather is fine, you can keep with leather for a long time (until ~250) but you might switch to 1h sooner than that (~170) to deal with the huge increase in incoming damage due to increasing monster PL around that level
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