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post Nov 27 2016, 03:46
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QUOTE(gansta @ Nov 27 2016, 02:42) *

LOL, I did not try that but I think that's the way it is, well the simplified question is that I'm uploading the cloth armor, but I have not raised my health points since I got to 226, I'm already in 234, increase

Ah yeah, now i understood.
Cloth armor raises MP and mage related stuff, check here for what the proficiencies raise: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies

By the way, for proficiencies to raise stats you need to slot in the corresponding ability in the abilities page.

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post Nov 27 2016, 03:54
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I highly recommend not trying to gain proficiency just for the sake of it - it's so time consuming. Better to start upping prof only soon before you're going to switch to a style that requires the proficiency, otherwise the time spent on prof grinding is mostly wasted. (the greater the difference between your level and your prof amount, the faster your prof rises; therefore, better to grind for prof later than earlier)
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:59
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 26 2016, 19:46) *

Ah yeah, now i understood.
Cloth armor raises MP and mage related stuff, check here for what the proficiencies raise: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies

By the way, for proficiencies to raise stats you need to slot in the corresponding ability in the abilities page.


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2016, 19:43) *

Cloth abilities don't raise HP. it's a normal thing.

just fyi, Cloth abilities boost only strictly mage-related things, like MP tank and spell ACC/Crit/Speed. check here


Okay, that part I have to the maximum, well as far as I go in my level, but when I went up the equipment proficiency in the section of cloth I increased a little in health points, but when I reach the 232 nothing else I do not rose nothing

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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2016, 19:54) *

I highly recommend not trying to gain proficiency just for the sake of it - it's so time consuming. Better to start upping prof only soon before you're going to switch to a style that requires the proficiency, otherwise the time spent on prof grinding is mostly wasted. (the greater the difference between your level and your prof amount, the faster your prof rises; therefore, better to grind for prof later than earlier)


But still no big difference, almost all have the same level and it has not cost me much to adapt to different styles and armor, I decided to do it now before I end up getting used to a single style, however many thanks for the recommendation Which will most likely be taking into account

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post Nov 27 2016, 04:05
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2016, 17:23) *

It's easier to think of it the other way around - Savage is obviously useful because it directly increases clear speed (via more crit damage), while the benefits of Agile are much more nebulous. More attack speed does little. You'll take a tiny bit less damage per turn on average, but you'll also regen and draught-regen (hp/mp/sp) less per turn. You'll also recast buffs slightly more rarely.

Agile isn't bad (except for well-equipped 1h), but Savage's directly increased clear speed is so much better.


I'm hearing Crit is what I'm after where speed not a big plus.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2016, 17:26) *

DW Shade relies on crits, so boosting Crit damage is always good. gain is simply added to the total pot. on the other hand, Speed is added multiplicatively, so its efficiency is quite mitigated. or so i guess. we should ask to people who has both sets.
but at least on the paper, Savage directly boost damage, so why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Hearing again -> Crit is what I'm after where speed is not a big plus.

And come to think of it, we all agree that swift strike suxoreds, so it all fits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks to you both! Now I get it.
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post Nov 27 2016, 10:34
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What's the best DW weapons, especially for beginners?
Rapier + Waki?
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post Nov 27 2016, 10:36
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you can try club & rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 27 2016, 10:39
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QUOTE(ArbiterErii @ Nov 27 2016, 16:34) *

What's the best DW weapons, especially for beginners?
Rapier + Waki?
Erii's Corner has been receiving many requests for DW start-up packs, which I don't know for sure what to send (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Axe of Slaughter + Rapier of balance as I know,but my knowledge of melee is really old.
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post Nov 27 2016, 11:40
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QUOTE(ArbiterErii @ Nov 27 2016, 09:34) *

What's the best DW weapons, especially for beginners?
Rapier + Waki?
Erii's Corner has been receiving many requests for DW start-up packs, which I don't know for sure what to send (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

you may even thinking about list all of the weapons for DW packs and let people choose how to assemble their own DW set. i mean, nowadays for a DW starter having a bit of ADB and a bit of Parry should be enough to try the style, at least at mid difficulties. there are so many combos that may work at the start: Club/Rapier, Rapier/Waki, Shortsword/Rapier, Axe/Rapier, Axe/Club... and when mobs aren't tanky enough, you don't even need the Rapier. plus this is a game, so if one wants to go for Demon Banshee, why not? when it won't be enough anymore, he'll simply come here to ask.
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post Nov 27 2016, 12:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 27 2016, 09:40) *

you may even thinking about list all of the weapons for DW packs and let people choose how to assemble their own DW set. i mean, nowadays for a DW starter having a bit of ADB and a bit of Parry should be enough to try the style, at least at mid difficulties. there are so many combos that may work at the start: Club/Rapier, Rapier/Waki, Shortsword/Rapier, Axe/Rapier, Axe/Club... and when mobs aren't tanky enough, you don't even need the Rapier. plus this is a game, so if one wants to go for Demon Banshee, why not? when it won't be enough anymore, he'll simply come here to ask.


Yeah you have a good point. In fact I myself enjoy trying new way of playing and collecting items~
The problem is I have to make the best use of my inventory……It has been "almost full“ since I started the project……I want to offer every possibilities and accept all kinds of donation, but I can't hold them……
Actually if there isn't a certain answer, I may just stay compatible with 1h, which is Main Axe Off Rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 27 2016, 12:35
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QUOTE(ArbiterErii @ Nov 27 2016, 11:27) *

Yeah you have a good point. In fact I myself enjoy trying new way of playing and collecting items~
The problem is I have to make the best use of my inventory……It has been "almost full“ since I started the project……I want to offer every possibilities and accept all kinds of donation, but I can't hold them……
Actually if there isn't a certain answer, I may just stay compatible with 1h, which is Main Axe Off Rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

take them in MM, like auctioneers do and then pick them only when needed. you may need only 50 spare slots in your inventory or so, if you also play meanwhile. i used to go at this pace for many months back then.
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post Nov 27 2016, 14:57
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just curious , how much vase & gum cost to clear PFfest ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 27 2016, 16:25
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 27 2016, 20:57) *

just curious , how much vase & gum cost to clear PFfest ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Not too much,depends on your equipments&upgrade&hathperks,mine is 50-60 for your reference.
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post Nov 27 2016, 17:45
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QUOTE(issary @ Nov 27 2016, 15:25) *

Not too much,depends on your equipments&upgrade&hathperks,mine is 50-60 for your reference.

correct me if i'm wrong, but we're speaking about 400k or so here...
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post Nov 28 2016, 01:40
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Guys, how do you know at which level required Catalyst type is going to change in Forge upgrading?
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post Nov 28 2016, 02:07
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Is there any way to protect myself from void. I keep getting killed with one shot in the Blood Ring by the Pink Unicorn with 5K damage. All my gear is superior now but it has zero defense against void. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't for the fact blood tokens are pretty hard to acquire.

One other thing, what happens when you die. Do I lose exp or items or is it just the shame of dying.

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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 00:40) *

Guys, how do you know at which level required Catalyst type is going to change in Forge upgrading?

first you need quality tier. then, i remember there was an excel spreadsheet done by ssss. if he's positive about it, i think we should include it on wiki
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post Nov 28 2016, 02:11
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QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Nov 28 2016, 01:07) *

Is there any way to protect myself from void. I keep getting killed with one shot in the Blood Ring by the Pink Unicorn with 5K damage. All my gear is superior now but it has zero defense against void. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't for the fact blood tokens are pretty hard to acquire.

Void is specifically meant to have no specific defense against - both for monsters and for player. therefore, there isn't something such as a suffix that may boost Void mitigation.
you can only brace yourself by raising PMI/MMI (depending whether the attack is physical or magical nature) and by using spells that will shift the amount of damage taken to SP bar, such as Spirit Shield or Spark.
if it's only for ROBs you can even cast such spells via scrolls.

QUOTE(Shind Mar @ Nov 28 2016, 01:07) *

One other thing, what happens when you die. Do I lose exp or items or is it just the shame of dying.

first, you aren't awarded EXP. second, all of your items will lose 10% condition at every loss. under 50% condition they will start to lower their stats, to the point of bringing them to 0 when 1% condition is reached.
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post Nov 28 2016, 02:17
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 28 2016, 01:07) *

first you need quality tier. then, i remember there was an excel spreadsheet done by ssss. if he's positive about it, i think we should include it on wiki

Aaaand where do i find this spreadsheet?
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post Nov 28 2016, 02:21
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 28 2016, 00:11) *

first, you aren't awarded EXP. second, all of your items will lose 10% condition at every loss. under 50% condition they will start to lower their stats, to the point of bringing them to 0 when 1% condition is reached.


Thank you

All EXP all or just the last round you lost? Also do you lose stats on all items or the items you are wearing?

Does Absorb work on Void? Does not seem to work

One last thing. What is the countdown for Mana Pots and Scrolls?

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post Nov 28 2016, 02:22
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 28 2016, 01:17) *

Aaaand where do i find this spreadsheet?
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in the cloud iirc. but i don't really remember where
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