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Nov 20 2016, 18:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 20 2016, 17:04)  Just as a question, my future shield will be the Buckler i have in my signature, what materials will i need to upgrade it to higher than lv 5 Block? HG Wood and? Maybe Bindings of the Barrier?
yes. and a quantity of variable-quality catalysts
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Nov 20 2016, 18:09
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 17:05)  yes. and a quantity of variable-quality catalysts
QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 20 2016, 17:05)  Not maybe, every shield need Bindings of the Barrier for upgrade (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) To my defense, i never upgraded something over lv 5 forging until now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:11
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 20 2016, 17:09)  To my defense, i never upgraded something over lv 5 forging until now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) The only difference is that Force needs DMM too, from lv 1. The other shields don't.
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Nov 20 2016, 18:12
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 23:04)  61% here at lv25. i don't think i'll ever go much again. my shield was originally a L-1, so i guess to end at 64.5~65 is what i can do at best. and every further level upgrade will cost me something like 80k or so. thanks but no thanks. nah. reach lv25 and quit it when it starts asking for Coruscatings, it's already a very good improvement.
very high block is useful for GF especially at PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) if you just playing arenas only on daily basis , 60% is more than enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 20 2016, 23:04)  Just as a question, my future shield will be the Buckler i have in my signature, what materials will i need to upgrade it to higher than lv 5 Block? HG Wood and? Maybe Bindings of the Barrier?
only binding of barrier and hg wood , you don't need DMM (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) actually , I'm kinda disappointed to use force shield ~ buckler of barrier is better for me in term of repair , mana and upgrade cost (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) especially repair and mana (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:13
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-Shun-
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I'll need to buy a legendary shield first before I can think about materials (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think the good ones at the auctions go for 1 mil or so right? D:
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Nov 20 2016, 18:15
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 20 2016, 17:13)  I'll need to buy a legendary shield first before I can think about materials (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think the good ones at the auctions go for 1 mil or so right? D: Yup. A LMax or so Shield with DEA goes for 1 million or more usually (paid 1.05m for mine, and some guy paid 3.9 for his (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) A 37-37.5 SDE one goes for the same amount. Both LMax and SDE can go for 10M+, sometimes even 30+ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by ppp82p: Nov 20 2016, 18:16
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Nov 20 2016, 18:23
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-Shun-
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 21 2016, 00:15)  Yup. A LMax or so Shield with DEA goes for 1 million or more usually (paid 1.05m for mine, and some guy paid 3.9 for his (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) A 37-37.5 SDE one goes for the same amount. Both LMax and SDE can go for 10M+, sometimes even 30+ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'll just hope I can get one for around 1 mil (or hopefully less) then x_x Guess SDE on shield is not an option for me :< This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 20 2016, 18:23
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Nov 20 2016, 18:29
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 20 2016, 17:23)  I'll just hope I can get one for around 1 mil (or hopefully less) then x_x Guess SDE on shield is not an option for me :<
If you want a cheap SDE (50-150k) you should go for 36-36.5 (quite low), and mid-high level (400-450) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:29
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 20 2016, 17:09)  To my defense, i never upgraded something over lv 5 forging until now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) nobody no one blamed you for anything, as far as i can read. why defending yourself? QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 20 2016, 17:12)  very high block is useful for GF especially at PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) if you just playing arenas only on daily basis , 60% is more than enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) i appreciate your concern sir, but speaking about PFfest with me is as useless as speking about PFfest with mid-levels (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 20 2016, 17:12)  only binding of barrier and hg wood , you don't need DMM (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) actually , I'm kinda disappointed to use force shield ~ buckler of barrier is better for me in term of repair , mana and upgrade cost (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) especially repair and mana (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) i thought about switching to bucklers of barrier too. but i invested too much in this shield to come back. and it has a certain affective value as well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 20 2016, 17:13)  I do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) especially if I want to sell it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) with the current market, depreciation etc etc, i'd be happier to find a cheap DEA P-level block shield to soulfuse and use now rather than a decent SDE whatever shield that i may or may not sell in the future. also, i'm pretty positive that at your level 1 STR = 1 ADB, so you can still live without. most likely you'll be damaged more by the presence of AGI roll rather than the lack of STR
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Nov 20 2016, 18:32
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 20 2016, 17:23)  I'll just hope I can get one for around 1 mil (or hopefully less) then x_x Guess SDE on shield is not an option for me :<
if you ask me, SDE are tremeneduously overvalued. first thing to look in a shield is block. then comes PABs and levels. but if it's a temporary item just to buy time while looking for an endgame one, then just pick whatever comes with a decent block. QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 20 2016, 17:29)  If you want a cheap SDE (50-150k) you should go for 36-36.5 (quite low), and mid-high level (400-450) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) which is like saying that what you don't spend in shields, you'll waste it in fragments (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:34
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 17:32)  then just pick whatever comes with a decent block
Not exactly whatever, a shield without both DEX and END is horrible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:34
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 17:29) 
nobody no one blamed you for anything, as far as i can read. why defending yourself?
Just explaining why i didn't know the need for bindings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:36
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 23:29)  nobody no one blamed you for anything, as far as i can read. why defending yourself? i appreciate your concern sir, but speaking about PFfest with me is as useless as speking about PFfest with mid-levels (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i thought about switching to bucklers of barrier too. but i invested too much in this shield to come back. and it has a certain affective value as well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) with the current market, depreciation etc etc, i'd be happier to find a cheap DEA P-level block shield to soulfuse and use now rather than a decent SDE whatever shield that i may or may not sell in the future. also, i'm pretty positive that at your level 1 STR = 1 ADB, so you can still live without. most likely you'll be damaged more by the presence of AGI roll rather than the lack of STR yup , 1 STR = 1 ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) well , I'm not 1H anymore now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 20 2016, 18:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 20 2016, 17:34)  Not exactly whatever, a shield without both DEX and END is horrible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) well, if it comes with really high block and other rolls, pretty close to my level and for cheap i can trade END for that. to trade DEX it has to be a Peerless coming from bazaar or so. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 20 2016, 17:36)  yup , 1 STR = 1 ADB
uhu. my math is right then
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Nov 20 2016, 18:44
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 20 2016, 17:23)  I'll just hope I can get one for around 1 mil (or hopefully less) then x_x Guess SDE on shield is not an option for me :<
Just saying, but Unindex proposed in my WTB first page a pretty good already quite forged Leg Force Shield of Protection with SDE pabs, level 285. Now, i don't know how much he wanted for it, maybe too much even for you, but you could try asking him.
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Nov 20 2016, 18:47
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 20 2016, 17:44)  Just saying, but Unindex proposed in my WTB first page a pretty good already quite forged Leg Force Shield of Protection with SDE pabs, level 285. Now, i don't know how much he wanted for it, maybe too much even for you, but you could try asking him.
is it the one that he said he bought at the auction?
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Nov 20 2016, 18:48
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2016, 17:47)  is it the one that he said he bought at the auction?
Exactly that one.
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Nov 20 2016, 18:48
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Rhydin
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 20 2016, 17:34)  Not exactly whatever, a shield without both DEX and END is horrible (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well, considering that Leg Shields always come with 3 PABs, your objection comes down to Mag Shields only, that are likely to offer non-optimal block to begin with. After level 300 or so, there's really no reason not to go with a Leg shield, unless you're on an absolutely tight budget and have no Soul Fragments at all. On a side note, I'm still looking to sell this shield - good enough for temporary use and way cheaper than 1m or whatever sum came up throughout this discussion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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