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Nov 19 2016, 12:00
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Superlatanium
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Contrary to the OP, stats barely matter for most players as long as you realize that Int is junk for melee (and Str is junk for mage)
Feel free to keep all other stats even-ish. (Or not, but keep their costs within 1/10th of the rest)
Due to the exponential curve, it's not important enough to think about
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Nov 19 2016, 12:02
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(hentaiboya @ Nov 19 2016, 10:56)  How fucked are my stats (IMG:[ jii.moe] https://jii.moe/EygbWzKZM.png) Well, i see you're going with 1H Heavy, first of all keep INT low, at level*0.7 or lower, since it's pretty useless for not Mages. Then keep DEX a little higher, near strenght, since it influences a truckload of stuff. The rest is ok. Edit: By the way, train Deprecating Proficency till 45 so you'll learn Imperil, Silence, Confuse, etc. This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Nov 19 2016, 12:05
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Nov 19 2016, 12:07
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hentaiboya
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I feel that STR is pretty useless with the inclusion of power armour, right now adding str does so little for my attack damage so I just spam it into END. Will put more points into DEX.
BTW I've just cleared like 4 arenas in a row on Nightmare and no token of blood drops, what gives? Do the higher difficulties have a higher drop rate? It's fucking impossible to get them.
And is silence important or can I just buy more inventory slots and spam spark of life
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Nov 19 2016, 12:08
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hentaiboya
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 18:02)  Well, i see you're going with 1H Heavy, first of all keep INT low, at level*0.7 or lower, since it's pretty useless for not Mages. Then keep DEX a little higher, near strenght, since it influences a truckload of stuff. The rest is ok.
Edit: By the way, train Deprecating Proficency till 45 so you'll learn Imperil, Silence, Confuse, etc.
Any fast way to train? Assuming I already have the persona set up just spam weaken on crude mobs in IW? Any scripts to recommend?
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Nov 19 2016, 12:18
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SincSoul
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Why does everyone recommend others to get Silence and other spells by increasing Dep. Prof. to 40? Mine is still at 2.10 (mainly because of FSM) and I can finish my Arenas in Nintendo or IWBTH (takes a snicking long time). And my REs are already in PFUDOR, same thing goes for RoB. Is there any other point in having Dep. Prof at +40?
This post has been edited by Chraunzen: Nov 19 2016, 12:19
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Nov 19 2016, 12:20
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(hentaiboya @ Nov 19 2016, 11:07)  I feel that STR is pretty useless with the inclusion of power armour, right now adding str does so little for my attack damage so I just spam it into END. Will put more points into DEX.
BTW I've just cleared like 4 arenas in a row on Nightmare and no token of blood drops, what gives? Do the higher difficulties have a higher drop rate? It's fucking impossible to get them.
And is silence important or can I just buy more inventory slots and spam spark of life
Token of Blood to Chaos Token rate is 20%/80%. In fact till now i got 5 Tokens of Blood and like 30 Chaos Tokens. Silence is important only with Bosses like the FSM, if you want to lessen dmg taken spam Haste too, not only Spark of Life. QUOTE(hentaiboya @ Nov 19 2016, 11:08)  Any fast way to train? Assuming I already have the persona set up just spam weaken on crude mobs in IW? Any scripts to recommend?
If you already have the set up to spam weaken, you're set.
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Nov 19 2016, 12:23
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 19 2016, 11:18)  Why does everyone recommend others to get Silence and other spells by increasing Dep. Prof. to 40? Mine is still at 2.10 (mainly because of FSM) and I can finish my Arenas in Nintendo or IWBTH (takes a snicking long time). And my REs are already in PFUDOR, same thing goes for RoB. Is there any other point in having Dep. Prof at +40?
Silence is for Bosses, like FSM. Then at 100 prof you learn MagNet, that's useful too. Edit: You''ll learn Imperil too at 30. This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Nov 19 2016, 12:25
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Nov 19 2016, 12:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 19 2016, 11:18)  Why does everyone recommend others to get Silence and other spells by increasing Dep. Prof. to 40? Mine is still at 2.10 (mainly because of FSM) and I can finish my Arenas in Nintendo or IWBTH (takes a snicking long time). And my REs are already in PFUDOR, same thing goes for RoB. Is there any other point in having Dep. Prof at +40?
Silence is useful to buy a bit of time. identify mobs with powerful MP/SP attacks and cast silence on them to avoid them to use such attacks on you. it can boost your survival rate. eventually you'll stop using it, but it's still a useful protection layer
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Nov 19 2016, 13:08
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-Shun-
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What would be the usual price for non-slaughter legendary power stuff with high adb roll? I dunno if I'll be overpaying or lowballing
This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 19 2016, 13:21
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Nov 19 2016, 13:51
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Larequirem
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All that talk about 1H shade is bad shit make me question my way of play here my stats and equip
This post has been edited by Larequirem: Nov 19 2016, 13:52
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Nov 19 2016, 13:52
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Larequirem
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Nov 19 2016, 13:57
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Larequirem
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forgot mitigation 
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Nov 19 2016, 14:16
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Rhydin
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QUOTE(Larequirem @ Nov 19 2016, 12:51)  All that talk about 1H shade is bad shit make me question my way of play here my stats and equip
It's not that you can't make 1H Light work, but it's an unreasonable build to say the least. 1H Heavy is already so inherently safe that eventually you can completely focus on more damage output to improve clearspeed (hence the overwhelming demand for Power Slaughter gears). With 1H Shade build you gain a noticeable amount of Evade and Resist, at the cost of lots of ADB (and piercing mit). While that may seem appealing when survival is still an issue, it becomes a major drawback at higher levels: High Evade reduces the amount of your counters, which contribute a significant anount to your damage output and even boost your survival via stuns (No attacks + no Evade/Parry for stunned mobs). Evasion simply is counterproductive for 1H playstyle as it reduces the number of your counterattacks. And by decreasing your ADB compared to Power Armors, you're further prolonging battles for no reason at all.
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Nov 19 2016, 14:17
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Larequirem @ Nov 19 2016, 12:52)  QUOTE(Larequirem @ Nov 19 2016, 12:57)  forgot mitigation  If it helps, i like it quite a bit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nov 19 2016, 14:29
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Cleavs
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personally i note too much Evade, which for 1H is quite bad. and too low Block/ADB, i guess. is it a safe playing at least?
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Nov 19 2016, 14:31
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Nov 19 2016, 13:16)  [...]
don't forget all that speed bonus.
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Nov 19 2016, 14:36
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2016, 13:29)  personally i note too much Evade, which for 1H is quite bad. and too low Block/ADB, i guess. is it a safe playing at least?
Seems pretty safe to me personally (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) 40% evade + 40% block + 40% parry + 60% resist seems pretty tanky to me.
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Nov 19 2016, 14:40
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-Shun-
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Its almost as safe as 1h + heavy to me based on experience (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Its just that I have better luck getting power set over shade set
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Nov 19 2016, 14:40
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-Shun-
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double post
This post has been edited by IshimaruShun: Nov 19 2016, 14:41
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