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post Nov 19 2016, 01:29
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 00:22) *

Yeah, i'll unlock unlock Silence and while i'm at it Confuse too.

well, if you think like doing so... but mind you, Confuse isn't that useful of a spell, and on top of that there's still a 20% chance a target can break your spell, even with maxed ability. but if you're already using Sleep, they share the same ability, so, uh... at least you won't lose anything. do your tests, maybe it will work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 00:22) *

On my whole set of 7 pieces, only 2 pieces don't have DEX.

ah. i thought more...
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post Nov 19 2016, 01:49
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 18 2016, 13:44) *

it's a close-to-perfect Radiant of Heimdall, and the bidder is one of the biggest hath barons around.

Jeepers, I wish I were Phreeman.
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post Nov 19 2016, 01:55
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 19 2016, 00:49) *

Jeepers, I wish I were Phreeman.

The questions is, who doesn't (apart from Jenga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))?
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:07
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 00:55) *

The questions is, who doesn't (apart from Jenga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))?

Me. I want peerless, but peerless is a lie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:12
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 19 2016, 00:49) *

Jeepers, I wish I were Phreeman.

and i would've preferred for those credits to go to someone a bit poorer than phreeman (nothing against him), but HV is neither fair nor balanced.

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 00:55) *

The questions is, who doesn't (apart from Jenga (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))?

interesting. do you really think he bidded his last credits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2016, 01:12) *

and i would've preferred for those credits to go to someone a bit poorer than phreeman (nothing against him), but HV is neither fair nor balanced.
interesting. do you really think he bidded his last credits? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Noope, you didn't understand, i was saying everyone wants to be Phreeman right now, apart from Jenga, after all Jenga could buy all of us if he wanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:19
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 19 2016, 01:15) *

Noope, you didn't understand, i was saying everyone wants to be Phreeman right now, apart from Jenga, after all Jenga could buy all of us if he wanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

ah. yep, i definitely misunderstood. my bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

however such exploits are always useful, they help you realize those you shouldn't mess with (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 02:52
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still below amiya 150M PERS and kino 178M leg radiant phase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Nov 19 2016, 03:01
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 19 2016, 01:52) *

still below amiya 150M PERS and kino 178M leg radiant phase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

oh, there's still time. chronokorea is quite high on H@H toplist, i guess he may still place another bid. we *may* still see 160M, but i doubt it will go higher than that.
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post Nov 19 2016, 03:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2016, 09:01) *

oh, there's still time. chronokorea is quite high on H@H toplist, i guess he may still place another bid. we *may* still see 160M, but i doubt it will go higher than that.

well , I hope so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

btw , if Kino isn't retired , we may see him join this war (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

His WTB alone already explain how much monies in his pockets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


err , after see jenga bid in bunch of auctions , I wonder how much stony have since he is the top of H@H all time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 19 2016, 03:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 19 2016, 08:44) *

it's a close-to-perfect Radiant of Heimdall

I don't think its close to perfect, your losing 20 (or 30%~) magic damaged gained via the low PABs.
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post Nov 19 2016, 04:20
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 18 2016, 18:34) *
Just stopped using 1h + light after reaching 300 prof on light armour. The biggest problems for me were the magic and sp attacks that somehow manage to hit me.
This is why I think light armor is a bit better than plate/power for low-level players, at least before 250 or so. With heavy armor, Sprites and Celestials with SP attacks can oneshot you before level 200, which is a serious problem even with Spark to save you. After level 200, you can start using Spirit Shield so you don't take so much health damage, but those attacks will still hurt a lot and be difficult to manage. Light armor is better at resisting those attacks, because resist.

Heavy armor is somewhat better at defending against physical attacks, but so much worse against magic. (and also heavy armor decreases your damage output if you have more than 70 burden, which is quite likely at lower levels before players are using mostly Power) But it's better to take constant moderate damage than to sometimes take slightly smaller-than-moderate damage and sometimes take huge damage due to magic attacks.

The other thing is that the main benefit of heavy armor, which is the ability to use Power, only becomes a significant concern after 250 or so, when decent quality equipments start to become available, or at least seen on the horizon.
QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 18 2016, 21:40) *
This is happening at Super's auction

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Has this been done before or is this a new highest ever?
[Clo01] Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall (472, EDB 92%) (seller: Superlatanium) KINOSHITAMIKOTO 173.8m #264 Extend to 14:50
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Nov 19 2016, 01:27) *
I don't think its close to perfect, your losing 20 (or 30%~) magic damaged gained via the low PABs.
Lmin int/wis: 7.14
Lmax int/wis: 8.43
Currently, scaled int/wis is around 105 from base ~7.3; close to Lmin. Were int/wis Lmax, the scaled stats would be around 121.

Int +16: maybe +20 mdb
Wis +16: maybe +10 mdb
+~30 MDB, plus very slightly better crit

Were Int/Wis average instead, it'd be +~15 MDB (plus very slightly better crit)

Scaled MDB of this Radiant: 97

You're right. In the population of Radiant equips with near-perfect EDB, this one is on the lower end, and it's taking a bit of the edge off this being a Radiant.

(but honestly, "the population of Radiant equips with near-perfect EDB" is so good already)
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post Nov 19 2016, 04:59
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Finally got around to unlocking Silence from 0.2 depreciating proficiency after reading these posts, thank goodness for SpellSpam (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I know it's good for bosses, but what about for general use? I can do IWBTH arenas just fine without it (up to trio at least; I'll challenge end of days today), but the jump to PFUDOR is pretty harsh. I can do PFUDOR RE's without worrying about failing, but I need to use Last Elixirs as a crutch during PFUDOR arenas (highest I've gone PFUDOR is Dark Skies).

Do you just cast it on everything in PFUDOR? The 10-turn duration seems a little limiting at minimum proficiency, so I'm thinking just keep a group silenced and kill everything else first?

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 18 2016, 19:20) *

This is why I think light armor is a bit better than plate/power for low-level players, at least before 250 or so. With heavy armor, Sprites and Celestials with SP attacks can oneshot you before level 200, which is a serious problem even with Spark to save you. After level 200, you can start using Spirit Shield so you don't take so much health damage, but those attacks will still hurt a lot and be difficult to manage. Light armor is better at resisting those attacks, because resist.


That's kind of why I've stuck with light so far. I spark fairly infrequently in leather in IWBTH so my spirit draught/potions can keep up with it, but I'm flying by the seat of my pants in my (albeit mediocre) power set where I cut it close even with elixirs. I tried a PFUDOR RE in my power set and I just barely scraped by; I burned through my potions+elixirs+last elixir with little progress and would have failed for sure without OFC bailing me out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I'll try power armor again at 240 with the next tier of spirit shield, but at the moment it feels a little too squishy for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 05:04
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QUOTE(faperu @ Nov 19 2016, 02:59) *
I know it's good for bosses, but what about for general use? I can do IWBTH arenas just fine without it (up to trio at least; I'll challenge end of days today), but the jump to PFUDOR is pretty harsh. I can do PFUDOR RE's without worrying about failing, but I need to use Last Elixirs as a crutch during PFUDOR arenas (highest I've gone PFUDOR is Dark Skies).

Do you just cast it on everything in PFUDOR? The 10-turn duration seems a little limiting at minimum proficiency, so I'm thinking just keep a group silenced and kill everything else first?
Don't bother with SG arenas except on Normal or Hard or so, they take ages and give little in return except for trophies.

Silence takes (real) time to cast, if you're playing efficiently, you should only be using it when absolutely necessary - like in Ring of Blood. In other cases, standard monsters die too quickly for it to be of much use.
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post Nov 19 2016, 05:09
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 19 2016, 03:20) *

Int +16: maybe +20 mdb
Wis +16: maybe +10 mdb
+~30 MDB, plus very slightly better crit

Less than that.
I removed 10 int from my mage persona, damage lowered by 10.
Since it is logarithmic the more int you have the less bonus you get.
For jenga or other top players is should be something like:
+14 mdb
+7 mdb
or something like that.
So the net loss is probably more like ~11 mdb+ sligthly less crit and mp.

Still worth a crapton of credits.
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post Nov 19 2016, 06:23
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 19 2016, 12:09) *

Less than that.
I removed 10 int from my mage persona, damage lowered by 10.
Since it is logarithmic the more int you have the less bonus you get.
For jenga or other top players is should be something like:
+14 mdb
+7 mdb
or something like that.
So the net loss is probably more like ~11 mdb+ sligthly less crit and mp.

Still worth a crapton of credits.



In my calculation, 30 is very close number IF your level is 500 and all gears are forged heavily.


Now I wear Peerless Phase Robe and current mdb is 4936.68.

INT / 8.43 / 169.94
WIS / 8.43 / 169.94
MD / 4936.687457


If that radiant robe

INT / 7.27 / 146.34
WIS / 7.33 / 147.48
MD / 4906.402701 + md from Radiant

* Its base md was 4.41 too.
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post Nov 19 2016, 07:58
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Is it possible to change your username? I wanna shorten mine
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post Nov 19 2016, 08:01
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 19 2016, 05:58) *
Is it possible to change your username? I wanna shorten mine
Only with gold star
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post Nov 19 2016, 08:36
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 19 2016, 14:01) *

Only with gold star

Guess thats one more reason to aim for GS.... maybe a year from now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Nov 19 2016, 11:01
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Nov 19 2016, 14:36) *

Guess thats one more reason to aim for GS.... maybe a year from now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

After you can clear pufdor arena,you can get about 300k-400k income every day(with SG,crystal perk V but it only affect about 50k per day,full drop training it will be 500k).
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