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Oct 11 2011, 08:00
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ki1ler7
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You have imbued HaliZorat with 154 points of karma.
Your Karma Influence Power has been drained, and is now 1.
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Oct 11 2011, 08:01
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MidNightPass
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Oct 11 2011, 13:58)  Cause maintaining Spirit Shield, Haste and Regen seems like a bit much since I go through plenty of Godly Mana Potions on Hard/Heroic as it is through Regen and Cure casts.
If you can semi-permanent stun your opponents, in theory you don't need regen all the time. Personally I always keep haste and spirit shield on.
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Oct 11 2011, 08:06
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HaliZorat
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Well... I Dual-Wield, so stunning a ton of monsters at once with a Mace isn't exactly an option for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) This post has been edited by HaliZorat: Oct 11 2011, 08:06
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Oct 11 2011, 08:40
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Ballistic9
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 11 2011, 12:48)  Sounds like it doesn't meet the requirements to be "recast" according to how innate arcana works
Great, forgot about that. So many caveats X(
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Oct 11 2011, 08:41
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Drksrpnt
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@HaliZorat: You should get Innate Arcana I just for Spirit Shield, honestly. Yeah, it's that good. And the amount of magic used to keep it up is pretty much negligible.
And I have Spirit Shield and Haste as my IA spells. Yeah, Haste is really, really good, especially at higher difficulties. Having a higher action speed essentially means everything else has a LOWER action speed. So, you won't get hit as often, and your procs will last longer, allowing you to do more damage to everything while lowering the amount of damage you take by a fairly significant amount.
Ah, and for your first question, I have 43.6 Interference and 27.9 Burden. I'd have less of both if I had at least one Ethereal, but...
This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Oct 11 2011, 08:47
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Oct 11 2011, 08:57
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mkonji
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Oct 11 2011, 07:58)  And as for Haste, having used it several times, I can see why it's good, but I've never really gotten into the habit of keeping it up since it just costs so much and is probably one of my most short lived spells (Yes, I have 5 AP in it). Should I get into the habit of keeping it up once I hit level 200 because of the absurdly overpowered monsters? Cause maintaining Spirit Shield, Haste and Regen seems like a bit much since I go through plenty of Godly Mana Potions on Hard/Heroic as it is through Regen and Cure casts.
No idea. I've been using haste all the time ever since I was lvl 100 or so and I've built my stats around Haste always being on, so I have no idea when (if ever) it becomes necessary. You can probably get by without it, but for me it pretty much means taking 44% less damage per turn on average on top of increasing stun uptime.
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Oct 11 2011, 09:39
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altereggo
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If you manage the channeling you get from casting right, you can keep up Shadow Veil and Protection for very little MP. I find I'm keeping them and regen up for virtually nothing, what with all the AoE I cast.
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Oct 11 2011, 10:54
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Oct 11 2011, 08:22)  Sell it to me! NAO!~
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Oct 11 2011, 11:26
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Bunker Buster
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Oct 11 2011, 08:06)  Well... I Dual-Wield, so stunning a ton of monsters at once with a Mace isn't exactly an option for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Do not dual wield in arenas. ever. In fact dual wield turns out to be really, really bad at anything other than ring of blood fights not to mention that the proc damages are mediocre at best and it takes forever to kill things. Niten Ichiryu isn't much better because it lacks the bonus attack radius from regular 2H. (Honestly, if DW could be made competitive, critical hit damage needs to be way higher, attack speed should be INCREDIBLY fast, or offhand proc chance has to be up to 2H's level. On top of that, same-proc weapon procs should be a combined effectiveness of 1.5x, not a weighted average.) Have a 2H equipment setup and train the fuck out of it (preferably something high-bleed like scythe (high crit balance preferably) or high hit like katana (slaughter preferred.)) It's very worth it and you will clear rounds almost as fast as mages. http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=100184a4a9I try to keep points evenly spent among STR, DEX (most important), AGI, END (second most important), and WIS, and only spend INT for the tiny mana boosts when it's really, really cheap relatively speaking and support spells don't get boosted by it anymore. I also go the Spirit / Overcharge upgrade line before anything else, as every 5 points of Overcharge is a +3.3% damage bonus to your melee attacks. You're also going to want to get into the habit of putting just about every non-element-shield support spell on your bar plus silence and regen2. (Yes, you're going to have to spellcast a lot as a melee user. Deal with it.) Haste lasting more than 30 turns is a must, and Protection and Shadow Veil stretches out the margin of error you can go without having Regen. It's not an absolute necessity to use Godly Mana potions, you can do just fine with the lower three tiers of potions which are much cheaper since you (should) have a lower mana pool and Channeling for your Regen II doesn't activate too infrequently. Also when you get Heartseeker fights will go about twice as fast with 2H. This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Oct 11 2011, 11:43
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Oct 11 2011, 13:10
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DragonRanger
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I currently have 46.4 Interference and 34.8 Burden, but with a new Mace I'm hoping to get, I should have 40 Interference and 33.3 Burden (this is without any Ethereal/Shadowdancer equipment). When browsing for Equipment, I generally look at Compromise before any other stats, and it's been surprisingly easy to find equips with relatively low Compromise and high stats.
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Oct 11 2011, 13:24
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MidNightPass
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Oct 11 2011, 16:54)  Sell it to me! NAO!~
I believe you already got one?
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Oct 11 2011, 13:58
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mkonji
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Personally I'm liking Dual Wield for my schoolgirls run. An Ethereal Shortsword in my main hand (because it's the only non-crap one-handed ethereal I have) and Club of Slaughter in my offhand.
With the combination of higher base damage, offhand hits, and double procs (not the best bleed, but ~1k per turn), I'm killing them in 40 turns instead of 70.
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Oct 11 2011, 14:45
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HaliZorat
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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Oct 11 2011, 05:26)  Do not dual wield in arenas. ever. In fact dual wield turns out to be really, really bad at anything other than ring of blood fights not to mention that the proc damages are mediocre at best and it takes forever to kill things. Niten Ichiryu isn't much better because it lacks the bonus attack radius from regular 2H.
I acknowledge that DW is is many ways (or perhaps completely) inferior to 2H, but I really do prefer just sticking with what I like, which is DW. Otherwise, I would have switched to maging a long time ago simply for the raw power. QUOTE Have a 2H equipment setup and train the fuck out of it (preferably something high-bleed like scythe (high crit balance preferably) or high hit like katana (slaughter preferred.)) It's very worth it and you will clear rounds almost as fast as mages. Again, already acknowledged. I may do this later on when I have little else to do (aka, when I reach level 250 and train stuff to the point where it becomes almost impossible for me to afford the next level), but for now, no plans. Trying to afford good Shade equipment is expensive enough as it is without trying to get a good 2H weapon. QUOTE You're also going to want to get into the habit of putting just about every non-element-shield support spell on your bar plus silence and regen2. (Yes, you're going to have to spellcast a lot as a melee user. Deal with it.) Haste lasting more than 30 turns is a must, and Protection and Shadow Veil stretches out the margin of error you can go without having Regen. It's not an absolute necessity to use Godly Mana potions, you can do just fine with the lower three tiers of potions which are much cheaper since you (should) have a lower mana pool and Channeling for your Regen II doesn't activate too infrequently.
Also when you get Heartseeker fights will go about twice as fast with 2H. 1. Already have Heartseeker, so I know how great it is, and can only imagine how great it is when you can potentially hit every enemy for a whole lot more damage. 2. I personally use Channeling for Heartseeker, while constantly maintaining Regen, since more casts of Regen = more chances of Channeling, which then leads to casting Regen II. Thus far, other supportive spells are only cast when I feel it's necessary (mostly at the latter rounds of arenas). Anyways, I suppose I'll get IA for Spirit Shield once I get there. Still a few hath short of it though, so I'll just have to hope my luck is good enough with what few artifacts I get.
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Oct 11 2011, 15:26
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skillchip
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Oct 11 2011, 11:24)  I believe you already got one?
I'd take it off your hands then
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Oct 11 2011, 15:43
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MidNightPass
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QUOTE(mkonji @ Oct 11 2011, 19:58)  Personally I'm liking Dual Wield for my schoolgirls run. An Ethereal Shortsword in my main hand (because it's the only non-crap one-handed ethereal I have) and Club of Slaughter in my offhand.
With the combination of higher base damage, offhand hits, and double procs (not the best bleed, but ~1k per turn), I'm killing them in 40 turns instead of 70.
[L253] Superior Ethereal Axe of SlaughterHmm... QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 11 2011, 21:26)  I'd take it off your hands then
Nah...this is the only one I have.
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Oct 11 2011, 16:41
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hzqr
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Any mage playing on Nintendo or higher? What's your average mana consumption? I find myself using a pot every 8-9 turns, which I suspect is kind of high.
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Oct 11 2011, 17:02
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Ballistic9
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1 Godly Mana pot around round 20, then once every 10 rounds. Pot usage is roughly the same whether it's on Hell or Battletoads. Recasting Spark too often or not getting a channelled AF up quickly enough can drain MP fast. Energy Drinks help a lot, I use less mana on BT + great status than I do on Nintendo + normal status.
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Oct 11 2011, 17:04
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buktore
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 11 2011, 00:12)  Does that answer all you were asking Buktore?
It did. Thanks a lot! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I also tried DW before I took a break from HV a few days ago. Even with meh weapons, it was surprisingly good; in fact if you talking only about the round VS non-konata girls, its faster than my eth mace! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) But, as expected, its way more tedious and cumbersome to play... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Still, if I have your eth club, I will switch to DW against girls marathon in a heartbeat! PS. Common, snowflake... give something nice to me already! Everyone got so good gear its made me cry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Oct 11 2011, 17:44
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skillchip
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Oct 11 2011, 18:39
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Oct 11 2011, 14:24)  I believe you already got one?
Mine is worse.
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