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post Nov 13 2016, 15:23
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 13 2016, 15:00) *

I can't say for sure this is the one I saw last time, but it definitely works, thanks!
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post Nov 13 2016, 15:44
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 20:20) *

New Wings - 75 Rounds in Hell Mode
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err , feel kinda slow to me especially your t/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

if my memory not wrong , you use 1H , right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

how fast your ping to HV ?

maybe you use too many scripts ?
I only use 2 scripts when still use 1H in the past ~ reloader 1.3.3b plus Boulay HV theme ~ and that more than enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 16:20
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 11:20) *

New Wings - 75 Rounds in Hell Mode
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If I'm not mistaken, in 19 minutes, I can clear Arena 110 (at Hell) with my Plate Set (ADB ~ 5300). From what you've posted before, I think you just need to improve your equipment. With that you can feel some difference.
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post Nov 13 2016, 17:15
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 13 2016, 08:44) *

err , feel kinda slow to me especially your t/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

if my memory not wrong , you use 1H , right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

how fast your ping to HV ?

maybe you use too many scripts ?
I only use 2 scripts when still use 1H in the past ~ reloader 1.3.3b plus Boulay HV theme ~ and that more than enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I use 7 scripts, how do you know your ping?
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:08
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 16:15) *

I use 7 scripts, how do you know your ping?

open windows command prompt and type:
ping hentaiverse.org
(you can do copy/paste if you want).
common consensuous here is that being in Europe, thus near HV servers (which are in Netherlands) usually leads to low pings (for example, i live in Italy and my ping towards HV isn't so different from my ping towards Google) and this is automatically enough to have high t/s, so bear with it.

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post Nov 13 2016, 18:13
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I'm using dualwield + leather. Rapier of Slaughter + Shortsword of Balance for Arenas (50% parry), sometimes Club of Balance for RoB (34% parry).
[imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/Ft22L (the fappy shortsword is an exquisite ethereal balance)
I have cleared all arenas up to my level in Nintendo difficulty and some in PFUDOR. But with constant Spark of Life on and several mana potions per arena, up to several dozen potions with those lv 150+ arenas. I'm feeling the monsters can 1-hit me pretty easily, especially when I'm against 6-7 of them.
I have nearly no difficulty clearing RoB at IWBTH, haven't tried PFUDOR yet 'cos no tokens, but I guess if I can clear IWBTH easily, then PFUDOR shouldn't be too hard. I don't even use health and mana potions in RoB, only draughts and spirit potion in case I get 1-hit during Spark of Life.
So can you guys recommend any build that may make arenas less "expensive" to clear? Most credits earned from arenas and selling drops are spent on mana potions.
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:14
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280 ms
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:15
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 11:13) *

I'm using dualwield + leather. Rapier of Slaughter + Shortsword of Balance for Arenas (50% parry), sometimes Club of Balance for RoB (34% parry).
[imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/Ft22L (the fappy shortsword is an exquisite ethereal balance)
I have cleared all arenas up to my level in Nintendo difficulty and some in PFUDOR. But with constant Spark of Life on and several mana potions per arena, up to several dozen potions with those lv 150+ arenas. I'm feeling the monsters can 1-hit me pretty easily, especially when I'm against 6-7 of them.
I have nearly no difficulty clearing RoB at IWBTH, haven't tried PFUDOR yet 'cos no tokens, but I guess if I can clear IWBTH easily, then PFUDOR shouldn't be too hard. I don't even use health and mana potions in RoB, only draughts and spirit potion in case I get 1-hit during Spark of Life.
So can you guys recommend any build that may make arenas less "expensive" to clear? Most credits earned from arenas and selling drops are spent on mana potions.


Here's a tip from my part, don't use mana potions, use mana draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) and get IA 2 or 3

I am no pro but this is just common sense, if you're struggling in IWBTH, just lower the difficulty to Hell, I can probably complete all my arenas in IWBTH but the time spent would be... A lot, so it's not a good option, try to do this... Play in a way where you can complete Arenas in a decent time, while maintaining high (hard+) difficulty, I personally suggest Nightmare or Hell (for the leg/peer drops).

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post Nov 13 2016, 18:16
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gosh, looking at those comments above produce a strong urge for me to power leveling..

Cuz those Exqs and Sups (which drop more frequently now since I go Nightmare) dropped and at most 2 PAB, now still forced to use lv70+ stuff which gives 4 PAB (pre 0.82), dangit.

Now was thinking whether to invest Better Regen , 5 more mana but only 2 more rounds of duration (and yes, better healing, but seriously, is the points and mana cost worth it?)
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:17
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 17:13) *

I'm using dualwield + leather. Rapier of Slaughter + Shortsword of Balance for Arenas (50% parry), sometimes Club of Balance for RoB (34% parry).
[imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/Ft22L (the fappy shortsword is an exquisite ethereal balance)
I have cleared all arenas up to my level in Nintendo difficulty and some in PFUDOR. But with constant Spark of Life on and several mana potions per arena, up to several dozen potions with those lv 150+ arenas. I'm feeling the monsters can 1-hit me pretty easily, especially when I'm against 6-7 of them.
I have nearly no difficulty clearing RoB at IWBTH, haven't tried PFUDOR yet 'cos no tokens, but I guess if I can clear IWBTH easily, then PFUDOR shouldn't be too hard. I don't even use health and mana potions in RoB, only draughts and spirit potion in case I get 1-hit during Spark of Life.
So can you guys recommend any build that may make arenas less "expensive" to clear? Most credits earned from arenas and selling drops are spent on mana potions.

if you're ready to change style - thus farming prof from zero again among other things - then undoubtly Rapier + Shield + Power armors has the upper hand nowadays.
if you really want to stick with DW for reasons (whatever they are), then either Club of Slaughter/Rapier of Balance or Rapier of Slaughter/Waki of Nimble + Shade armors. if possible Shade of Fleet/Shadowdancer and try to keep overall BUR < 7
either way, all weapons nowadays should have at least a prefix.

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 17:14) *

280 ms

relatively high, i'd say. did you already try Reloader?

QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 17:15) *

Here's a tip from my part, don't use mana potions, use mana draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) and get IA 2 or 3

IA3 isn't mandatory. i mean, if you can afford it, it's a nice investment, but if you have trouble earning those hath, it can wait. IA2 on the other hand is almost a need in this meta.

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post Nov 13 2016, 18:18
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 18:15) *

Here's a tip from my part, don't use mana potions, use mana draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) and get IA 2 or 3

IA?
I'm constantly using all draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They're pretty cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 13 2016, 18:17) *

if you're ready to change style - thus farming prof from zero again among other things - then undoubtly Rapier + Shield + Power armors has the upper hand nowadays.
if you really want to stick with DW for reasons (whatever they are), then either Club of Slaughter/Rapier of Balance or Rapier of Slaughter/Waki of Nimble + Shade armors. if possible Shade of Fleet/Shadowdancer and try to keep overall BUR < 7

lol I'm no Kirito (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it's just when I started playing hv, I thought something like "double the swords, double the damage, thus, half clear time" then it turned out to be different (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but farming prof for both new weapon and armor type seems kinda tedious. can I just spam grindfest until I run out of stamina?

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post Nov 13 2016, 18:23
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 11:18) *

IA?
I'm constantly using all draughts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They're pretty cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I use mana draughts and my MP doesn't go below 70%, unless I mess up and use Heartseeker without waiting for Channeling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I used to use Mana Potions exclusively but I was in the same situation as you are right now, it costed too much, so I changed, I'm much better now.

IA = Innate Arcana (hath perk, costs 50 Hath, 100 Hath, 250 Hath, 500 hath and the last one 1000 hath)

Get the first one, it's cheap

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post Nov 13 2016, 18:23
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 17:18) *

IA?

Innate Arcana perks. they unlock a certain number of slots in which you can place some supportive spells which will be automatically casted at the start of every turn (and with a bit of mana reduction). as i wrote in my previous comment (i edited while you posted, tbh) in this build of the game IA2 is almost a need, but it costs 150 Hath total (including 50 Hath for the first level). IA3 in comparison is "only" very useful, but it's worth another 250 Hath, so it can wait a bit.
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:26
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 17:18) *

lol I'm no Kirito (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it's just when I started playing hv, I thought something like "double the swords, double the damage, thus, half clear time" then it turned out to be different (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but farming prof for both new weapon and armor type seems kinda tedious. can I just spam grindfest until I run out of stamina?

nothing in particular. armors will raise on their own without you having to do anything. as for weapons, they will raise as you use them - but it will require at least 100 prof before you start to see a decent benefit out of 1H style, so worry not if the start isn't so impressive.
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:29
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This has nothing to do with HV but I just dropped my phone and the screen shattered (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) god damn it Physics
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 13 2016, 11:17) *

relatively high, i'd say. did you already try Reloader?


Yes, my internet just sucks. A lot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:34
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 18:23) *

I use mana draughts and my MP doesn't go below 70%, unless I mess up and use Heartseeker without waiting for Channeling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I used to use Mana Potions exclusively but I was in the same situation as you are right now, it costed too much, so I changed, I'm much better now.

IA = Innate Arcana (hath perk, costs 50 Hath, 100 Hath, 250 Hath, 500 hath and the last one 1000 hath)

Get the first one, it's cheap



QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 13 2016, 18:23) *

Innate Arcana perks. they unlock a certain number of slots in which you can place some supportive spells which will be automatically casted at the start of every turn (and with a bit of mana reduction). as i wrote in my previous comment (i edited while you posted, tbh) in this build of the game IA2 is almost a need, but it costs 150 Hath total (including 50 Hath for the first level). IA3 in comparison is "only" very useful, but it's worth another 250 Hath, so it can wait a bit.



QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 13 2016, 18:26) *

nothing in particular. armors will raise on their own without you having to do anything. as for weapons, they will raise as you use them - but it will require at least 100 prof before you start to see a decent benefit out of 1H style, so worry not if the start isn't so impressive.


thanks you guys for the advices. gonna change playstyle to 1h + heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 18:36
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 17:13) *

I'm using dualwield + leather. Rapier of Slaughter + Shortsword of Balance for Arenas (50% parry), sometimes Club of Balance for RoB (34% parry). [...]

As Scremaz already suggested, for smooth clearing 1H + Shield is the way to go. The drawback here is that you'll need to acquire almost an entire new equipment set (though 1H + Light Armor should still be okay while transitioning, until you've managed to get a full set of Power Armor).

If you're looking to improve your DW setup, a couple option spring to mind:
- IW your rapier to 10, making it Hollowforged (Void damage + Void Strike) which will greatly increase your damage output
- replace your rapier with a prefixed one for an additional Elemental Strike (though you'd likeley have to settle for Exquisite then, Mags are pretty rare in your level range)
- switch your offhand Shortsword for a Waki (preferably with Nimble suffix) for much better Parry at the cost of offhand strike chance and some damage
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QUOTE(as013 @ Nov 13 2016, 17:34) *

thanks you guys for the advices. gonna change playstyle to 1h + heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

for the first period you can even use those Leather and that Rapier. just focus on finding a good Shield. then slowly start to build a Power set and find a whatever-prefixed Rapier.
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Nov 13 2016, 17:36) *

- IW your rapier to 10, making it Hollowforged (Void damage + Void Strike) which will greatly increase your damage output
- replace your rapier with a prefixed one for an additional Elemental Strike (though you'd likeley have to settle for Exquisite then, Mags are pretty rare in your level range)

possibly in the opposite order (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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