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post Nov 12 2016, 22:36
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QUOTE(Falcolight @ Nov 12 2016, 20:29) *
Hello guys!

I'm coming to you because I feel like I'm stuck in the game.

At the level 200, I was able to clean "Exile" in Nightmare mode. Now, I can't even clean Killzone in "Hell" mode (I lost 5 successive days).

So I guess it's about my equipment. When I asked you what was better at level 100, you said leather + two handed was the best but I should switch to one-handed at around lvl 200 ... So what should I do?

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Always use Spark of Life if there's even a chance of dying. That way, combined with sufficient potions, should at least keep you alive, even though some battle series might be tediously long and difficult if you pick too high a difficulty.

But yes, you will definitely find it much easier if you switch to 1h. 2h is way too suicidal past the upper 100s, because monster power starts growing exponentially while your relative firepower stays somewhat constant. Look for a prefixed Rapier of Slaughter/Balance/Nimble and soulfuse it, possibly after IW10 if you have spare funds.

Armor is fine. You'll want to switch out for Power eventually, but you don't want to do that before your 1h proficiency is high enough, else you'll feel too fragile.
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post Nov 12 2016, 23:11
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QUOTE(Falcolight @ Nov 12 2016, 21:29) *

Hello guys!

I'm coming to you because I feel like I'm stuck in the game.

At the level 200, I was able to clean almost all the first page in Hell mode. Now, I can't even clean Killzone in "Hell" mode (I lost 5 successive days).

So I guess it's about my equipment. When I asked you what was better at level 100, you said leather + two handed was the best but I should switch to one-handed at around lvl 200 ... So what should I do?

screenshots:

[imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/ZSi2k

You're doing something wrong, i'm able to do everything at least at Hell difficulty.
First thing, switch from 2H to 1H with a decent Shield, right now your defense is basically paper.
If you can find it, get a better helmet, maybe.
Get your buffs up always in fights (Protection, Regen, Spark of Life [if you feel in danger], Haste [if you feel in danger], Heartseeker [if you get channeling]), and use mana draught and health draughts.
Use Spirit Mode and/or the Weapon Skills when you can.
And assign Abilities well.
That's about all, at this level. At least i think.

Edit:
Ah, yeah, if you can find one use an Ethereal weapon, Void damage is the best. Or get an Elemental one and IW10 it.
By the way, if you can't find a good Rapier (like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)), get a Club, at least the Stun is going to help your defense.

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post Nov 12 2016, 23:48
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 12 2016, 22:27) *

nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 01:03
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QUOTE(issary @ Nov 12 2016, 22:48) *

Are you sure that he hasn't that perk? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Maybe the two you know aren't him, but can you assure me that he doesn't? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:05
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 13 2016, 07:03) *

Are you sure that he hasn't that perk? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Maybe the two you know aren't him, but can you assure me that he doesn't? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I mean the two I know aren't him,I thought you are guessing the two (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:14
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 12 2016, 22:11) *

By the way, if you can't find a good Rapier (like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)), get a Club, at least the Stun is going to help your defense.

Stun is not really that good for 1H.
The parry from shortsword is probably similarly effective for defense (and you're also getting more damage).
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:33
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:14) *

Stun is not really that good for 1H.
The parry from shortsword is probably similarly effective for defense (and you're also getting more damage).

More Stuns get pretty useful for me in choosing the target of Vital Strike.
Now, questions:
Clubs have higher base damage than Shortswords, can the damage from Bleeding wound close the gap?
Is a 20% parry that good for defense? How much would my defense increase?

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post Nov 13 2016, 02:34
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:33) *

More Stuns get pretty useful for me in choosing the target of Vital Theft.

Vital WHAT?
Get a rapier.
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:40
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 13 2016, 01:34) *

Vital WHAT?
Get a rapier.

Got mixed up with another thing, corrected (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'd get a rapier, if only they wouldn't cost 1M each or more, every time i see one.
I don't have that kind of money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
If i drop a good one, i'll use it.
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:45
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 00:33) *
More Stuns get pretty useful for me in choosing the target of Vital Theft.
Vital Theft is pretty useless. Better to Cure or Fullcure or Regen or health gem/potion/elixir - plus with Vital Theft you have to target a monster and then deliberately keep it alive for a while for it to do any good.

Not worth the tedium. In HV, unlike some other games, there are quite a few game mechanics that are hands-down always inefficient. "Balance" isn't so much of a thing here.
QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 00:33) *
Now, questions:
Clubs have higher base damage than Shortswords, can the damage from Bleeding wound close the gap?
Is a 20% parry that good for defense? How much would my defense increase?
BW isn't that useful because almost all the time you're hovering on a single monster until it dies, which doesn't take more than 5-6 hits usually, so BW doesn't actually result in much more effective damage done. BW is slightly more effective for lower level players than for higher level players, but a rapier's PA is still so much better than both BW and stun.

Given 1h's built-in counterattack-stun ability, I think a club on top of that isn't a good idea. If a rapier isn't an option, then a shortsword is OK. The parry does help.
QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 00:40) *
I'd get a rapier, if only they wouldn't cost 1M each or more, every time i see one.
I don't have that kind of money (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
If i drop a good one, i'll use it.
All you need is Superior+ prefixed Rapier of Slaughter/Nimble/Balance. Those don't cost an arm and a leg.
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:48
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:33) *

More Stuns get pretty useful for me in choosing the target of Vital Strike.

Never used vital strike.
It's useful only in RoB or SGs arena, and before level 300 you will get OFC and stop using 1H skills forever.

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:33) *

Clubs have higher base damage than Shortswords, can the damage from Bleeding wound close the gap?

Pretty much, but also consider that shortswords have better accuracy and dexterity (and agility, but that does not increase damage).
And more parries = more counter-attacks = more damage + more OC

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:33) *
Is a 20% parry that good for defense? How much would my defense increase?

In theory ~16% less damage taken.

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 13 2016, 01:45) *

BW isn't that useful because almost all the time you're hovering on a single monster until it dies, which doesn't take more than 5-6 hits usually, so BW doesn't actually result in much more effective damage done.

If you have a weapon with BW you should really switch target 1hit before death and let it be killed by BW or counter-attacks, otherwise you're really not using the weapon effectively.

Also my opinion is that with 1H (better to wait after level 300 or 350 for this) you should always try to keep the monster alive so that you can counter its attack.
Killing it one by one works best only on deep PFUDORfest or deep PFUDOR IW.

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post Nov 13 2016, 02:50
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 13 2016, 01:45) *

Vital Theft is pretty useless. Better to Cure or Fullcure or Regen or health gem/potion/elixir - plus with Vital Theft you have to target a monster and then deliberately keep it alive for a while for it to do any good.

Not worth the tedium. In HV, unlike some other games, there are quite a few game mechanics that are hands-down always inefficient. "Balance" isn't so much of a thing here.

Meant Vital Strike, the weapon skill. Sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 13 2016, 01:45) *

All you need is Superior+ prefixed Rapier of Slaughter/Nimble/Balance. Those don't cost an arm and a leg.

I got this thing:
Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Would a Superior *** Rapier really be better?
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:56
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QUOTE(Falcolight @ Nov 12 2016, 21:29) *

Hello guys!

I'm coming to you because I feel like I'm stuck in the game.

At the level 200, I was able to clean almost all the first page in Hell mode. Now, I can't even clean Killzone in "Hell" mode (I lost 5 successive days).

So I guess it's about my equipment. When I asked you what was better at level 100, you said leather + two handed was the best but I should switch to one-handed at around lvl 200 ... So what should I do?

screenshots:

[imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/ZSi2k

repair your gears, if this hasn't already been pointed out. also, i hope you forged at least the first 5 levels of ADB and STR/DEX on you mace and evade/END on your armors.

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:14) *

Stun is not really that good for 1H.
The parry from shortsword is probably similarly effective for defense (and you're also getting more damage).

for a 1H starter, i think a club *may* be good to make up for the lack of counterstuns. once he has a decent prof and a rapier hasn't been found yet, then maybe a shortsword may be an option. but i don't see anything wrong in starting with a club.

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:33) *

Is a 20% parry that good for defense? How much would my defense increase?

yes. and uh, it depends on how much your current roll is. but the best thing is that Parry in 1H style increases both defense and attack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:50) *

I got this thing:
Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Would a Superior *** Rapier really be better?

yes, for how strange it may sound. expecially since it's only one quality roll difference.

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post Nov 13 2016, 02:57
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 13 2016, 01:50) *

I got this thing:
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Would a Superior *** Rapier really be better?

A lot.
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post Nov 13 2016, 03:27
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I feel like I'm lacking in clear speed, Hell Arenas are taking too long (or maybe not?).
Is there anything wrong/bad/crappy about my stats?
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post Nov 13 2016, 03:29
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 01:27) *
I feel like I'm lacking in clear speed, Hell Arenas are taking too long (or maybe not?).
Is there anything wrong/bad/crappy about my stats?
[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/d0uOCfB.png
Looks just fine. My stats were much much worse at your level, and still slightly worse than yours when I was at 400.

The quality of individual gears is easier to talk about, though

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post Nov 13 2016, 03:31
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 02:27) *

I feel like I'm lacking in clear speed, Hell Arenas are taking too long (or maybe not?).
Is there anything wrong/bad/crappy about my stats?
[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/d0uOCfB.png

seems good. block in particular seems quite nice for your level. may we see your weapon?
also, consider that it may be due to your line. if that's the case, you're doomed. how do you play?
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post Nov 13 2016, 03:32
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 13 2016, 02:29) *

Looks just fine. My stats were much much worse at your level, and still slightly worse than yours when I was at 400.

yep. he has basically my same block chance. only 1.5 difference, but i have ~100 prof and level scaling more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 13 2016, 03:36
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Nov 13 2016, 02:27) *

I feel like I'm lacking in clear speed, Hell Arenas are taking too long (or maybe not?).
Is there anything wrong/bad/crappy about my stats?
[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/d0uOCfB.png

Too much plate maybe?
At 312 you should have all power armor, and your crit chance seems a bit too low for all power.
But without looking at the equipment it's not easy to tell.

Anyway you should lower agility and wisdom, for 1H they are a bit too high.
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post Nov 13 2016, 03:41
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I have an almost complete set of Magnificent Savage Power of Protection (I'm missing the boots so if anyone has a pair~ you interested in selling it?), but I can't use them since they're level 350-450, I'll have to soulfuse them and it'll cost me a lot of fragments.


On another note, anyone interested in buying x10 artifacts? I have more but I just need some credits, fast, to buy VV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'm not patient...

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