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post Nov 2 2016, 23:07
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Is it generally more profitable credit-wise, including selling drops to people on the forum, to HV on higher or lower difficulties?
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post Nov 2 2016, 23:11
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QUOTE(LordDyhalto @ Nov 2 2016, 22:07) *

Is it generally more profitable credit-wise, including selling drops to people on the forum, to HV on higher or lower difficulties?

higher. the highest difficulty you can manage. except SG arenas, they are barely worth it at Normal-Hard to farm trophies and tokens.
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post Nov 2 2016, 23:24
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QUOTE(LordDyhalto @ Nov 2 2016, 21:07) *

Is it generally more profitable credit-wise, including selling drops to people on the forum, to HV on higher or lower difficulties?


Lower difficulty generally means faster clears, while higher difficulty means better dreams, err... higher equipment drop quality. On higher difficulty you also get more credits as in actual credit drops, but outside the higher tier arenas this hardly makes any difference.
Now if you do... let's say... 250 rounds of GF on hell difficulty in 20 minutes with 2h and the same amount of rounds with 1h/heavy on PF in 45 minutes, you get better lot from the PF clear since you get more crystals, more credit drops, your equip drops start from superior quality forth hence more income from bazaaring them, etc.
Still... on hell difficulty at the same real life time, you have cleared already MORE than 500 rounds, getting overall more drops as number.
So the rest depends on your trainings, real life free time and boredom.
If you have the entire day and you are not bored to play Karate Kid : "Daniel-san... scroll up, scroll down, scroll up, scroll down", then higher difficulty is the way.
If you wanna burn your stamina quickly and get the most out of it, then lower your difficulty.

I had counted 33 days that i was playing ONLY PF on everything and didn't find a single legendary drop. PF doesn't mean that you DO get legendaries 100%. And even if you do, it could always be some bazaar only trash.
On lower difficulty and many many clears, you know that small drops WILL come. Amnesias, scrolls, crystals, potions, elixirs, ARTIFACTS, etc.

Either way has it's advantages. Unless if you are super rich. In that case fully forged mage and "go get them tiger".

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post Nov 2 2016, 23:58
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I wish I could GF 250 rounds on PFUDOR in 45 minutes ^.^;;

Okay, so there's no definitive single way or another. I guess I'll stick with my usual routine. Trio and lower Arenas on Hell, then the last 3 on Hard for SG trophies.
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post Nov 3 2016, 00:09
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QUOTE(LordDyhalto @ Nov 3 2016, 04:58) *

I wish I could GF 250 rounds on PFUDOR in 45 minutes ^.^;;

Okay, so there's no definitive single way or another. I guess I'll stick with my usual routine. Trio and lower Arenas on Hell, then the last 3 on Hard for SG trophies.

well , if you want than you can try PF DwD for testing your luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 3 2016, 00:11
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i try to do pf fest but i hate using imperil when doing grindfest. i often just stick to nintenfest or hellfest for my 1h/s. mage still can only handle normal at the moment. probably going to give up on mage and just keep working on full slaughter.
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post Nov 3 2016, 00:15
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err , you can finish PFfest without imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

just build strong fully forged radiant set & leg/peer holy/dark prof staff + 1 slot shoes prof and max damage perk like frank melody , done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


or just spams vase and gum (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Nov 3 2016, 00:22
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 3 2016, 05:15) *

or just spams vase and gum (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


^this is the easiest way if you can afford vase&gum with prof. factor ~0.7 and mid-forged gears you can go through PFUDOR-fest easily. (and yeah no imperil)
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post Nov 3 2016, 00:39
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 3 2016, 05:22) *

^this is the easiest way if you can afford vase&gum with prof. factor ~0.7 and mid-forged gears you can go through PFUDOR-fest easily. (and yeah no imperil)

well , to do this on daily basis , you need at least cryst4 and high drop training lvl , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Nov 3 2016, 02:51
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Is there a script or something to let you see what materials you can get from salvaging something?
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post Nov 3 2016, 04:47
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Is there a script or something to let you see what materials you can get from salvaging something?

Nope as I know
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post Nov 3 2016, 07:16
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 3 2016, 07:15) *

err , you can finish PFfest without imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

just build strong fully forged radiant set & leg/peer holy/dark prof staff + 1 slot shoes prof and max damage perk like frank melody , done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
or just spams vase and gum (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


they are too expensive and hard to buy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 3 2016, 10:50
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Why do I feel my attack power is so small, I need 60-75min to clear end of days arena in Nintendo difficulty...
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post Nov 3 2016, 11:00
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QUOTE(LordDyhalto @ Nov 2 2016, 21:58) *
Okay, so there's no definitive single way or another.
There actually is a definitive single way that maximizes your income per time, you just need sufficient data to prove it, which can be gathered most easily by using Income Summary.

For those who don't use all of their stamina, lower difficulty is generally a bit better. For those who do use their stamina, assuming they do arenas, the only other real option is GF (which is only decent in the first place with crystal perks and Archaeologist training): Low difficulty GF isn't a bad option for those who don't have the tankyness to survive high incoming damage, and have Archaeologist (artifact income in GF does not depend on difficulty; it's a constant 8.3 artifacts per fest, on average). High difficulty GF is good if the player also has many crystal perks (on IWBTH and PF, crystals account for more than 40% of revenue; the higher difficulty, the lower proportion of revenue is from artifacts).
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Why do I feel my attack power is so small, I need 60-75min to clear end of days arena in Nintendo difficulty...
You're trying to play high difficulty SG arena with low level gear, that's the problem. It's a waste of time; either play ordinary arenas (on high difficulty, usually, for income), or SG arenas (on low difficulty), but don't play SG arenas on high difficulty. It takes too long, and the average reward of ~150c per very tough schoolgirl isn't worth it.
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post Nov 3 2016, 11:17
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 3 2016, 16:00) *

You're trying to play high difficulty SG arena with low level gear, that's the problem. It's a waste of time; either play ordinary arenas (on high difficulty, usually, for income), or SG arenas (on low difficulty), but don't play SG arenas on high difficulty. It takes too long, and the average reward of ~150c per very tough schoolgirl isn't worth it.


I thought it was the fastest way to level up. Is there any faster way to level up? I cant play this game regularly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 3 2016, 11:36
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Just got my first Magnificent drop, feels good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm left wondering if it's worth using over my current weapon or if I should try to sell it. It looks pretty great, but dunno how it'd work in my 1hand build.

Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter (Soulbound)

Magnificent Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Hard to beat void damage, especially with no burden, but I'd be missing out on a lot of parry from not being a rapier. Tough choice, but hard not to see that club as being soulbound worthy. Missing out on penetrate armor isn't a big deal since it does void damage, right?

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post Nov 3 2016, 11:41
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Nov 3 2016, 09:17) *
I thought it was the fastest way to level up.
Not in the slightest, SG arenas are quite crappy for XP per time. The schoolgirls give next to no XP, and they're incredibly time consuming; the XP multiplier doesn't make up for it. IIRC, the first two SG arenas give less XP than Trio and Tree (which takes, what, 1/3 as long?)

DwD might be OK for XP/time, maybe, but the first two SG arenas don't have enough monsters per round for it to be worth playing.
QUOTE(forneus_zero @ Nov 3 2016, 09:17) *
Is there any faster way to level up? I cant play this game regularly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
(1) Standard arenas on high difficulty
(2) Toplist (and train AL)
QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Nov 3 2016, 09:36) *
Just got my first Magnificent drop, feels good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm left wondering if it's worth using over my current weapon or if I should try to sell it. It looks pretty great, but dunno how it'd work in my 1hand build.

Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter (Soulbound)

Magnificent Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Hard to beat void damage, especially with no burden, but I'd be missing out on a lot of parry from not being a rapier. Tough choice.
Pretty easy choice, rapier is better by far, because Penetrated Armor is much much better than any of the other procs. (especially on SGs and FSM and giants etc) Parry isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to the benefit of rapier's PA.

Elemental prefix usually doesn't mean a whole lot because players can IW to 10 and get void damage anyway. (though if you soulbound before having someone else IW it, it could be difficult to do it yourself...)
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:08
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i'm now starting to IW things by myself.

and i wanna to get jugg4/5 for my whole set of cloth.

when should i reforge and when i shouldn't?

i now have ~100 ammesia shard and i guess it's enough for a few piece at least?


edit : just finish an IW run for a piece of cloth, Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir
11 11 Unlocked innate potential: Capacitor Level 1
11 10 Unlocked innate potential: Holyproof Level 1
11 9 The equipment's potential has increased by 1360 points!

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post Nov 3 2016, 12:12
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 3 2016, 10:41) *

Not in the slightest, SG arenas are quite crappy for XP per time. The schoolgirls give next to no XP, and they're incredibly time consuming; the XP multiplier doesn't make up for it. IIRC, the first two SG arenas give less XP than Trio and Tree (which takes, what, 1/3 as long?)

Mages and melee cannot really be compared.

From my experience.

Best time melee
The Trio and the Tree
8m2s
End of Days
11m3s
Eternal Darkness
16m48s (but I usually skipped it so the time is probably crappier than the other)
A Dance with Dragons
25m50s

Best time mage (holy)
The Trio and the Tree
3m18s
End of Days
6m28s
Eternal Darkness
9m28s
A Dance with Dragons
14m23s

End of Days is actually not bad for melee as long as you have at least 1 strike holy/dark and OFC.
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:17
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QUOTE(yukikiss @ Nov 3 2016, 17:08) *

i'm now starting to IW things by myself.

and i wanna to get jugg4/5 for my whole set of cloth.

when should i reforge and when i shouldn't?

i now have ~100 ammesia shard and i guess it's enough for a few piece at least?
edit : just finish an IW run for a piece of cloth, Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir
11 11 Unlocked innate potential: Capacitor Level 1
11 10 Unlocked innate potential: Holyproof Level 1
11 9 The equipment's potential has increased by 1360 points!


if your first run on IWBTH , jug isn't pop up/appear ~ reset (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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