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post Oct 21 2016, 11:01
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Oh.
I was actually hoping there would be a way to do away with potions and just use draughts.
Then do mages use more potion than they drop or vice versa?

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post Oct 21 2016, 11:09
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For me , yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

since I'm dark mage & with 85% mana cost mod ( around 76% with aether shard ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but not that much different from daily drop and regular use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 21 2016, 11:15
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 21 2016, 17:09) *

For me , yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

since I'm dark mage & with 85% mana cost mod ( around 76% with aether shard ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but not that much different from daily drop and regular use (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Oh that's a relieve. Then I guess that's fine then.
Since I mainly just hate potion shopping.
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:17
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Oct 21 2016, 09:41) *

By exponentially harder I meant that because every level is harder to attain, it will eventually come to a point where it takes a Hell of a long time to achieve a stat.

Either way, there is a cap. Even if you invested all your exp into one stat, there would still be a cap. That's my deal breaker; not something I can really work around, unless they decide to change it in future patches (which, admittedly, I can't see them doing for good reasons, such as trying to balance based on a new system).

It's a pity for me, because I REALLY like Hverse, but I absolutely see from others' point of view. Most people like the sense of eventual 'completion' rather than a game that goes on forever, albeit one with constant progression.

i don't see your point. lv500 is quite far away, why worrying now to what will happen in that case?

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Oh.
I was actually hoping there would be a way to do away with potions and just use draughts.
Then do mages use more potion than they drop or vice versa?

personally i don't play as mage so much because when i do my player chunks so many potions that i'm afraid it could turn into an addicted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:29
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2016, 17:17) *

personally i don't play as mage so much because when i do my player chunks so many potions that i'm afraid it could turn into an addicted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Gah, that sounds less reassuring now.
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:29
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So, couple of questions:

Should I enter grindfest at my level? I'd like to get a few monster slots.

How bad is being defeated in general? I've been avoiding it hard core, mostly out of fear of item damage. Silly?

Are there any penalties for using flee?

Do your improved spell abilities improve weapon damage when you infuse them with the equivalent elemental infusions?

If not, are there any techniques to stack extra damage with the elemental infusions?

Ring of blood, how hard is it? I've had one token for a while, and not sure if I should use it at my low level...

How hard is it to get repurposed actuator? I've had a few power armor items drop, but given how expensive they are in the WTS shops, I assume I should not plan on power armor upgrades for a loooong time.

What's the best strategy for item word? Many low difficulty trips, or one high level?

Does the amount of Primary Attribute points scale differently on higher difficulty levels, or does it just seem to, based on the increased experience at higher difficulties? I've seen a few ability screenshots that the scores just seem to be much higher than I could get at similar level...

THANKS for helping newbies out with your experience!
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:38
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QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
Should I enter grindfest at my level? I'd like to get a few monster slots.
No, you don't have the crystal perks nor training, profit will be next to nothing.
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
How bad is being defeated in general? I've been avoiding it hard core, mostly out of fear of item damage. Silly?
It's a bit annoying if you're poor due to repair costs. But at your level you should be replacing gears every few levels anyway, so it's almost irrelevant.
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
Are there any penalties for using flee?
No
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
Do your improved spell abilities improve weapon damage when you infuse them with the equivalent elemental infusions?
No
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
If not, are there any techniques to stack extra damage with the elemental infusions?
Not exactly, just use the maximum number of infusions whenever playing
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
Ring of blood, how hard is it? I've had one token for a while, and not sure if I should use it at my low level...
Easy on medium difficulty, though you probably don't have to care about playing on higher than Normal, since clear bonus is almost always trash regardless. Just clear it once to get First Clear Bonus, then save all blood tokens for FSM once you've leveled up more.
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
How hard is it to get repurposed actuator? I've had a few power armor items drop, but given how expensive they are in the WTS shops, I assume I should not plan on power armor upgrades for a loooong time.
SmartSearch to figure out prices
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
What's the best strategy for item word? Many low difficulty trips, or one high level?
Always play on IWBTH. If you can't play on IWBTH, you probably shouldn't be IWing in the first place, since it'll take too long.
QUOTE(sogeth @ Oct 21 2016, 09:29) *
Does the amount of Primary Attribute points scale differently on higher difficulty levels, or does it just seem to, based on the increased experience at higher difficulties? I've seen a few ability screenshots that the scores just seem to be much higher than I could get at similar level...
The scale is the same - exponential. My next Intelligence upgrade costs exactly 73,881,154,439 XP
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:39
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 21 2016, 17:15) *

Oh that's a relieve. Then I guess that's fine then.
Since I mainly just hate potion shopping.

well , you can ask super , nec , sssss2 that use elemental mage how much they use mana pot on daily basis (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

since elemental have lower mana cost compare with holy/dark mage & you want to become ice mage from 1H mage , so better just wait for them to answer this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

coz sapo and me is not elemental mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2016, 17:17) *

i don't see your point. lv500 is quite far away, why worrying now to what will happen in that case?
personally i don't play as mage so much because when i do my player chunks so many potions that i'm afraid it could turn into an addicted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yup , that why I tell him not to worry about it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

even at my current lvl now , I feel lvl 500 is still a long way to reach (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Higher damage/faster clear mean less mana pot cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 21 2016, 11:48
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 21 2016, 09:01) *
Oh.
I was actually hoping there would be a way to do away with potions and just use draughts.
Then do mages use more potion than they drop or vice versa?
Some reference: with my meh Elec gears (I use Imperil), in the past 16082 rounds, I've lost a net 781 mana potions (maybe I found 100-200 as drops = ~950 used?), and I've found a net 37 mana elixirs (maybe found 45, used a few). (Source: Income Summary)

I have no Economizer, and I use Aether Shards when in Grindfest (which I do occasionally), but not during other battle series.

I think I've only shopped for mana potions two or three times since 0.82 came out
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:58
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 21 2016, 17:48) *

Accidentally closed this tab instead of posting with the other reply
Some reference: with my meh Elec gears (I use Imperil), in the past 16082 rounds, I've lost a net 781 mana potions (maybe I found 100-200 as drops = ~950 used?), and I've found a net 37 mana elixirs (maybe found 45, used a few). (Source: Income Summary)

I have no Economizer, and I use Aether Shards when in Grindfest (which I do occasionally), but not during other battle series.

I think I've only shopped for mana potions two or three times since 0.82 came out


Mmm...that's not too bad.
Considering I typically do ~845 rounds of arena and 125 rounds of DwD, a conservative estimate means I'll use 781/15 = 52 potions per day.
Given that I buy 10k potions at a time, I'll probably only have to go potions shopping every 8 months.
That's good enough I guess.
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:14
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 21 2016, 18:15) *

Oh that's a relieve. Then I guess that's fine then.
Since I mainly just hate potion shopping.


clear pfest (use aether and featherweight)
4 eco: 65~75 mana potions
0 eco: 100~110 mana potions

In my case, 4 eco does not need buy mana potion or rarely buy it


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post Oct 21 2016, 12:17
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clear pfest (use aether and featherweight)
4 eco: 65~75 mana potions
0 eco: 100~100 mana potions

In my case, 4 eco does not need buy mana potion or rarely buy it

err , 100 ~ 100 ? , hansvar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:19
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 21 2016, 11:29) *

Gah, that sounds less reassuring now.

well, consider that i have 4 Eco but prof isn't maxed and i use only Phase and try to hit only targets with coalesced mana on. maybe situation will change a bit later on, but for now i have to use T1 only if i don't want to trigger elixirs since draughts are already in use.
maybe there's something that i'm doing horribly wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:20
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 21 2016, 17:38) *

Always play on IWBTH. If you can't play on IWBTH, you probably shouldn't be IWing in the first place, since it'll take too long.


Not even Nintendo? D: So that means I should really have my endgame set acquired and maybe even upgraded by the time I start IW then. And if I were to test if I'm ready, I should be able to handle IWfest up to around 250 rounds right? Still got 50-ish levels to grind, hopefully have enough creds for most of the gears too
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:30
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Not even Nintendo? D: So that means I should really have my endgame set acquired and maybe even upgraded by the time I start IW then. And if I were to test if I'm ready, I should be able to handle IWfest up to around 250 rounds right? Still got 50-ish levels to grind, hopefully have enough creds for most of the gears too

well, PXP modifier for Nintendo is almost half of IWTBH's: this mean it will require double amount of runs to complete IW. check.
if yoou only want to add a couple of potencies or two it should be fine anyways, otherwise... uh... just do a couple of runs and check by yourself. but keep in mind that the last level will usually require 4 runs by itself at IWTBH, so 6 on Nintendo should be expected. just saying.
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:48
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With 100% spell cost and elemental i have:

Hellfest - increasing amount of mp pots
Pffest - slightly decreasing amount
Pf Arena - decent decreasing (i think around 7 per 100 rounds, so with 10k stocking its quite long time)

I dont mind that much, because pots are quite cheap. Any mp price reduction (besides shards) ll lead to damage reduction. In some cases maybe its also good for profit/time, but its not like i need more credits. So i pick all about damage.

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post Oct 21 2016, 19:27
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Just hit lv250, is there anything I should know before I start: A Dance with Dragons / Triple Trio & the Tree?

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Just hit lv250, is there anything I should know before I start: A Dance with Dragons / Triple Trio & the Tree?

1) Dovahkiin title is almost useless, don't try IWBTH DwD only to get it, the useful thing to do is PFUDOR DwD for the Mag+ Clear Bonus, and for it you need good gear and time if you have "normal" gear (it can take you hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )
2) TTT&T is wasteful for tokens, clear it once on Normal to get the first Clear Bonus then do only FSM.
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post Oct 21 2016, 20:23
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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Oct 21 2016, 19:27) *

Just hit lv250, is there anything I should know before I start Triple Trio & the Tree?

keep all your buffs active. kill the tree first. goddesses last. silence FSM every now and then.
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 21 2016, 20:23) *

keep all your buffs active. kill the tree first. goddesses last. silence FSM every now and then.


Oh about that... I noticed I don't have the skill silence, it's not in my skillbook and its nowhere to be found.

By the way, FSM is in there as well!? Oh damn, who else is in there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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