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EE ~ riddlemaster perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Ahh.. I saw you buying HatH. riddlemaster!

Congradulitizationonal!

I have 21 figures, any advice on getting my orbital cannon to show up? I already tried swapping equipment sets.

Ahh.. I saw you buying HatH. riddlemaster!

Congradulitizationonal!

err , that hath for 10% prof perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



not enough monies to unlock those perk at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I have 21 figures, any advice on getting my orbital cannon to show up? I already tried swapping equipment sets.

you need to wait 1 day for OFC now since 0.84 patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

you need to wait 1 day for OFC now since 0.84 patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Thanks.

err , that hath for 10% prof perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
not enough monies to unlock those perk at this moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Then twice on the Congradulitizationonal! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Edit.. Uh.. oh wait... didn't see the last line until after I hit submit.

ehhh... Congradulitizationonal! still holds till ya get it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by redphil: Oct 16 2016, 23:09

Maybe for you, if I hit monsters at near 4 t/s I'm lucky to gain more than a couple points in 30 minutes. Prof gain is very rare when near the cap.

On the plus side, once I finish up this time I won't ever have to do staff prof again

My staff prof is maxed. After my most resent level up, beating Konata got my to 414.76

Does 85 level really have that big of an effect on prof gain? Or is there some other factor we're missing.
One odd thing I noticed was that I my most recent beating-Konata-with-a-staff was the first one after unlocked Dæmon Duality but its gains were on the high side of the range from before.
Makes me wounder if damage dealt has some kind of effect on prof gain. For reference the attack on my staff set is 3709.

the first one after unlocked Dæmon Duality

you made me remember i unlocked DD just yesterday and no visible changes. i want my 2k Hath back! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

you made me remember i unlocked DD just yesterday and no visible changes. i want my 2k Hath back! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I suggest a visit to an optician since the difference is very visible.

I suggest a visit to an optician since the difference is very visible.

my glasses are alright, i changed them less than a month ago. and with my crappy connection, i can assure you that it's all but visible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i have to try with a 3 t/s line...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 17 2016, 01:20

my glasses are alright, i changed them less than a month ago. and with my crappy connection, i can assure you that it's all but visible

i have to try with a 3 t/s line...

Percentage has nothing to do with connection, the increase is exactly the same (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Anyway, I can assure you that Free-Flowing Dust is pretty visible (exactly none of my times after unlocking it are worse than before, best times are visibley better).

To show it I can post my The Trio and the Tree progression (I save a png every time I manage to improve my times on one of the last six arenas).


Difference is and should be visible, if it isn't there's something wrong.

9:58 -> 9:20 for 2000 hath? I guess I'll save them for a while (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That difference between mage and presumably not-mage.

9:58 -> 9:20 for 2000 hath? I guess I'll save them for a while (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's pretty much 6-7%.
Same difference in DwD, but there Free-Flowing Dust is mixed with imperil.
On the other end DwD times fluctuate a lot less so the difference there (6.5%) is pretty much what I would expect from the perk on a 1H setup.

That difference between mage and presumably not-mage.

Mage vs 1H.
And yes, is pretty brutal.

9:58 -> 9:20 for 2000 hath? I guess I'll save them for a while (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you'd better. surely i didn't hope it could make up for my connection problems, but i wouldn't even expect for it to be so unrelevant.

and sapo, even if we're speaking about 6~7% you do realize it's also 30 seconds out of 10 minutes, right?

The fact is that with a 12m upgrade on equipment (roughly 90 BoS) I get way much more than 6-7% damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Damage perk will became better option after you have reach high ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

That why I prefer forging my ADB first than damage perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If you have something you're certain you'll use for a pretty long time, a rapier or a Slaughter armor, probably better to forge a few levels of those before the damage perk.

But once mild forging is done, the damage perk is probably better, because it's permanent over all styles and equipment sets.

The fact is that with a 12m upgrade on equipment (roughly 90 BoS) I get way much more than 6-7% damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's not 6-7% damage, it's 6-7% clear-speed.
Clear-speed != damage.

And nope, 12M (actually 2k hath are ~11.5M but whatever) upgrade will not get anywhere near 6-7% clearspeed.
Even fully forging a rapier from 5 to 100 (95 BoS)(you can get more damage from power armor, but you need actuators there, so the price is higher) will give significantly less.

Here's the math.
My current damage is 10520 with rapier forged to 75 (2301 damage).
Scaling back the forge to 5 it will decrease the damage to 9822 (1603 from the rapier).
9822 X 1.1 (10% damage perk) = 10804.
9822 + fully forged rapier (2404) = 10623.

With the added bonus that the perk is permanent.

It's not 6-7% damage, it's 6-7% clear-speed.
Clear-speed != damage.

And nope, 12M (actually 2k hath are ~11.5M but whatever) upgrade will not get anywhere near 6-7% clearspeed.
Even fully forging a rapier from 5 to 100 (95 BoS)(you can get more damage from power armor, but you need actuators there, so the price is higher) will give significantly less.

Here's the math.
My current damage is 10520 with rapier forged to 75 (2301 damage).
Scaling back the forge to 5 it will decrease the damage to 9822 (1603 from the rapier).
9822 X 1.1 (10% damage perk) = 10804.
9822 + fully forged rapier (2404) = 10623.

With the added bonus that the perk is permanent.

If you forge just one equip, that's what happens. But a player will probably forge more evenly across all Power Slaughters + rapier, which means significantly greater damage for that (2k-hath-equivalent) spent.

What proportion of ADB is added by equipment for 1h heavy, anyone know? If equipment accounts for half of total ADB, then by forging all equips to 11, your weapons get *1.21 damage, which will give you an overall damage boost of about 10%, same as the perk.

Forging all to 11 costs a bunch of actuators and slaughters, about 1.9m + 4.5m = 6.4m worth, plus a tiny amount from HGM and catalysts, which comes out to significantly less than 2k hath = 11.6m. (Assuming someone forges evenly across all gears, which is not a good idea. rapier > armor > leggings etc.)

So maybe light forging is good, but past the first handful of Slaughters used, I'd prefer the first damage perk instead, for its permanence.