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post Oct 12 2016, 22:13
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The only thing I can think about is: you were using either a staff of focus as a weapon or a frugal phase as an armor, and it dropped from 50% to 49% condition, losing stats.

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post Oct 12 2016, 23:03
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Oct 12 2016, 22:06) *

Maybe you changed your equipment within that level and your older weap/armour gave you more mana conservation bonus or something which means you had less mana cost until you decided to equip a new gear which doesn't/has less mana conservation bonus/etc.

There's this mana cost modifier on the stat page under Magical Attack so observe that from time to time to see the changes in your spell costs


Right now my Mana Cost Modifier is 122.7%. With old equipment it was around 118% (max 4% difference).
I did change a piece of equipment after the change happened. It did increase burden and interference as it was a leather gauntlet.
I change equipment very rarely (cos my new items suck).
-The first time the MP Cost changed mid-fight must have been due to me advancing a level, so I really did my research. But now it was a strange situation, so that is why I post.

To ppp82p
I never used STAFF ever. Frugal armour? Never heard of it. I did use a piece of a heavy armor like 20levels ago. My conditions never got below 60%. Once I had to repair a dropped weapon. Once (like 25levels ago). It also shows on the left side of the screen under basic stats and titles that one has low durability of equipment. Shameful as it is, I only learned how to properly use focus just a while ago (I swear, it did not regenerate MP 6years ago), so I still only use it for mp regen.

Querry:
Are you people sure that this is not just some monster's skill or bugged debuff that does permanent changes in stead of temporary (never remember gatting debuffed in this game btw)? Maybe the equipment durability fault (never below 90% btw) or weapon/armor level difference that causes theis rapid mp cost change thingie?
Wiki says that it is not Difficulty level. Right?
Or is there a hidden stat?

Hipotesis:
My account is like 6yo so the HV changed a lot since then (I did not play it at all for 5years), so maybe there are some OLD "redundant" stats that cause these interference? And now HV is simply BALANCING the old settings into the current algorithms and databases?
It would make sense as the change was "quite rapid" like: I was using the skill and next battle/wave the skill took much more MP, so I noticed (but definitely no LV UP then (I need 15K exp to increase a level)). There was like 1minute between me using the skill, so I noticed.

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post Oct 12 2016, 23:52
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QUOTE(happybro23 @ Oct 12 2016, 23:03) *

Querry:
Are you people sure that this is not just some monster's skill or bugged debuff that does permanent changes in stead of temporary (never remember gatting debuffed in this game btw)? Maybe the equipment durability fault (never below 90% btw) or weapon/armor level difference that causes theis rapid mp cost change thingie?
Wiki says that it is not Difficulty level. Right?
Or is there a hidden stat?

yes, we are. what changes mana cost are ITR (which shouldn't be affected by condition since it's a negative stat) and Mana Conservation stat (Battlecaster/Focus weapons and Frugal armors). and while on battle, Spirit Stance.

QUOTE(happybro23 @ Oct 12 2016, 23:03) *

Hipotesis:
My account is like 6yo so the HV changed a lot since then (I did not play it at all for 5years), so maybe there are some OLD "redundant" stats that cause these interference? And now HV is simply BALANCING the old settings into the current algorithms and databases?
It would make sense as the change was "quite rapid" like: I was using the skill and next battle/wave the skill took much more MP, so I noticed (but definitely no LV UP then (I need 15K exp to increase a level)). There was like 1minute between me using the skill, so I noticed.

i don't think. surely there have been many changes in 6 years, but they all summed up for you. and admin made so redundant things were deleted/replaced every now and then.
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post Oct 13 2016, 00:01
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QUOTE(happybro23 @ Oct 12 2016, 21:03) *
Right now my Mana Cost Modifier is 122.7%. With old equipment it was around 118% (max 4% difference).
I did change a piece of equipment after the change happened. It did increase burden and interference as it was a leather gauntlet.
It was very likely just a misread pane or something, it's not something to worry about. I think most players would get along just fine just looking at how full their MP bar is, and using draughts/potions accordingly.
QUOTE(happybro23 @ Oct 12 2016, 21:03) *
Querry:
Are you people sure that this is not just some monster's skill or bugged debuff that does permanent changes in stead of temporary (never remember gatting debuffed in this game btw)?
Definitely impossible. There aren't even any player-targeted debuffs anyway.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure this is just a result of misreading something, I wouldn't bother looking into it.

At any given time, you should be able to calculate mana costs exactly, given your level and amount of interference. If that doesn't match the value displayed in battle, there's a problem - so if you think something's off you can double check the numbers.
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post Oct 13 2016, 06:22
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anyone have ninfest data for 1.0 prof factor and 0.7~0.8 prof factor with non imperil style ???

for hellfest , djack data is showing that there very little different between 1.0 ( 3+2 ) and 0.73 ( 4+1 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 13 2016, 07:19
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man i need to stop training and buying hath perks so i can afford to buy some of the more expensive gear. it is blowing my mind how people 20-60 levels below me are throw 5mill + on on all this slaughter gear.
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post Oct 13 2016, 07:55
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not really , power slaughter is cheaper now compare when you need @10~25m for good ADB power slaughter in 2015 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 13 2016, 08:22
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 12 2016, 23:55) *

not really , power slaughter is cheaper now compare when you need @10~25m for good ADB power slaughter in 2015 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


what i was getting at is that my funds blow compared to a lot of players 20-60 levels below me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


i know i could probably make more profit doing PF arenas, but i can only handle around 200 rounds of it before i want to slam my face into the keyboard. eventually i just go back to doing hellfest/ninfest cause i can watch tv while i'm doing it. it also doesnt help that i have already funneled creds into arch 7 and crys 3. prob should have waited a bit longer and got some better gear first.
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post Oct 13 2016, 08:39
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 13 2016, 04:22) *
anyone have ninfest data for 1.0 prof factor and 0.7~0.8 prof factor with non imperil style ???

for hellfest , djack data is showing that there very little different between 1.0 ( 3+2 ) and 0.73 ( 4+1 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
For elemental or holy/dark?

Hopefully holy/dark - in which case I'd prefer 3 + 2 (partially due to the cheaper forging).
Yeah... hath perks are usually pretty good because they're permanent, but getting a decent full set in the first place is more important.

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post Oct 13 2016, 08:57
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 13 2016, 13:22) *

what i was getting at is that my funds blow compared to a lot of players 20-60 levels below me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
i know i could probably make more profit doing PF arenas, but i can only handle around 200 rounds of it before i want to slam my face into the keyboard. eventually i just go back to doing hellfest/ninfest cause i can watch tv while i'm doing it. it also doesnt help that i have already funneled creds into arch 7 and crys 3. prob should have waited a bit longer and got some better gear first.


err , lvl doesn't represent somebody rich or not in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

alot of higher lvl players is poorer compare to atomicpuppy who doesn't even reach lvl 100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

just for example (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)



with high lvl and great gear plus enough forging , you can even playing IWBTHfest with just a little cure using 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

last time I try IWBTHfest with my 1H set , I can reach rounds 700 without single cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just make sure that your block and damage stats is high enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 13 2016, 13:39) *

For elemental or holy/dark?

Hopefully holy/dark - in which case I'd prefer 3 + 2 (partially due to the cheaper forging).
Yeah... hath perks are usually pretty good because they're permanent, but getting a decent full set in the first place is more important.


for holy/dark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

well , djack data show that only 30+ turns different for him to clear hellfest with 3+2 ( 4194 turns ~ 1.0 prof ) and 4+1 ( 4231 turns ~ 0.73 prof ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 13 2016, 09:36
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Kinda stoked, just got this to drop from RE on PFUDOR:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=84949ac210

Question, first shade piece that I am considering keeping, but I already have these boots. Is it worth the cost of all the shade fragments to upgrade it? Or should I just sell it? And how much would it be worth?

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post Oct 13 2016, 09:51
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QUOTE(guppieman @ Oct 13 2016, 09:36) *

Question, first shade piece that I am considering keeping, but I already have these boots. Is it worth the cost of all the shade fragments to upgrade it? Or should I just sell it? And how much would it be worth?

You're >300 lvl, you should really move away from leather if you want to improve clear speed.
I would honestly keep it, Savage prefix and negation suffix is not that bad.

Surely you can sell it but shades don't usually fetch very high prices, and you can end up with a very small profit.

What style are you playing?
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post Oct 13 2016, 10:01
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quick question: is there a script for staf prof grinding, to record and show how much prof you have gained? I'd like to see when I can stop banging my staff.
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post Oct 13 2016, 10:15
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 13 2016, 17:01) *

quick question: is there a script for staf prof grinding, to record and show how much prof you have gained? I'd like to see when I can stop banging my staff.



HV - Proficiency Gain Sidebar version 1.1
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post Oct 13 2016, 10:20
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QUOTE(hansvar92 @ Oct 13 2016, 10:15) *

thanks!
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post Oct 13 2016, 10:51
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Sybilla dropped [Legendary Frugal Cotton Gloves of Protection]
yay second leg
and it's another mage stuff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

this is HGC right ?

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post Oct 13 2016, 10:53
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QUOTE(Larequirem @ Oct 13 2016, 08:51) *
Sybilla dropped [Legendary Frugal Cotton Gloves of Protection]
yay second leg
and it's another mage stuff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

this is HGC right ?
Yes, Cloth that is not Phase or proficiency suffix is trash.
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post Oct 13 2016, 11:17
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it seem grinding staff prof in crude IW is the best option ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Usually I use RE and RoB to grinding staff prof , but RoB IWBTH is kinda dangerous after 2k turns even with light set or heavy set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

use light armor to grind my staff plus light prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 13 2016, 11:22
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 13 2016, 09:17) *
it seem grinding staff prof in crude IW is the best option ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Usually I use RE and RoB to grinding staff prof , but RoB IWBTH is kinda dangerous after 2k turns even with light set or heavy set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I use light armor to grind my staff plus light prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Yes, crude IW only. You can still get 500 - 1500 turns per round.
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post Oct 13 2016, 11:24
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 13 2016, 16:22) *

Yes, crude IW only. You can still get 500 - 1500 turns per round.

main problem , I don't have any crude equipment left in my inventory (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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