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Oct 6 2011, 12:52
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Randommember
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Oct 6 2011, 01:46)  If anyone cares, the exact formula appears to be (base HP/2)*(1+curative prof/200)*(1+holy EDB/100).
Very nice, thank you. You don't happen to know the formula for Cure II and Regen I and Regen II as well? As well as for how the offensive spells works? And their cast times.....? QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Oct 6 2011, 07:12)  Currently I only have black aura now. I am thinking whether to get the white first, or jump straight to rainbow.
Depends what you wanna get. You can get both the white and black auras and still have 100 hath to spare, for the same price as the rainbow. And white+black will give a higher experience bonus and higher attribute bonuses. The big difference is that B+W gives +10% to mana and health while rainbow gives +50% to health/mana/spirit regen. That regen should be a big thing for longer arenas. but it seems the formula for how regen works isn't really in line with what the EHwiki says (Every point of Wisdom raises your magic regen by 0.04/minute). I got the gold aura, which also increases regen with +50%, but I never really got a chance to compare before and after, and it just seems that I didn't get a +50% increase in regen, but a smaller one. But I really can't get neither health nor mana regen to match with the stated formulas. Actually, doing a bit of playing with the calculator, and it seems the formulas on the stat pages are wrong. Health and mana regen starts at 20 and 5, respectively, and then you get a bonus on that base regen based on your stats (0.2 per endurance point for health regen and 0.04 per wisdom point for mana regen) and this stat-affected regen gets the gold aura bonus. And presumably also the rainbow aura bonus then. So keep that in mind when you are licking your lips about the mana regen bonus. Edit: And someone should probably edit the EHwiki to give the correct formulas. This post has been edited by Randommember: Oct 6 2011, 13:03
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Oct 6 2011, 13:43
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hzqr
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Cure II doubles the effect of Cure I. I don't have Cure III but I assume it triples the amount or something. The formula for Regen I and Regen II has already been found and implemented in the EH Calculator. It involves base HP and Curative Prof. Damage of offensive spells is determined by the matching proficiency and EDB. AFAIK, it should look something like this: CODE Damage = (base magic damage and something else) * (1 + prof/200) * (1 + EDB/100)
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Oct 7 2011, 03:46
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Loli connnnn
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(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) A small question: I do not gain trophies for those legendary-class monster (Mikuru, Asakura, Yuki, Konata) at "End of Days" (lv 220) arena at round 50-99? This post has been edited by Loli connnnn: Oct 7 2011, 03:47
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Oct 7 2011, 03:50
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MidNightPass
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Oct 7 2011, 09:46)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) A small question: I do not gain trophies for those legendary-class monster (Mikuru, Asakura, Yuki, Konata) at "End of Days" (lv 220) arena at round 50-99? You only get trophies for sure at the final round only, otherwise it is by chance.
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Oct 7 2011, 04:06
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Loli connnnn
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Oct 7 2011, 09:50)  You only get trophies for sure at the final round only, otherwise it is by chance.
Hahaha, that's sad, I just thought after I rush to lv220, I will have 50+ legendary trophies everyday (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Thanks for answering, you result some karma (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Loli connnnn: Oct 7 2011, 04:06
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Oct 7 2011, 10:18
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Rootzor
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The equipment link ID is -- 3797063&key=460f5e3457 --
First post prohibits direct links, unfortunately.
Came across this earlier tonight. Was a little amazed to find that, for defensive purposes, this "average" tower shield seemed to be far better than many I've found in the Fine and even Superior range. Relative to its level, of course.
Am I missing something, here, with regards to what seem to be unusually strong stats for a low-grade piece of equipment? Minding my intent for a high-mitigation, high-avoidance build, of course.
Edit: Figured it'd be easier to just post the stats as well.
Physical Absorption + 0.95 Physical Mitigation + 1.63 % Magical Absorption + 0.94 Magical Mitigation + 1.77 % Block Chance + 30.06 % Burden + 11.53 Interference + 15.35 Primary Attribute Bonuses Strength + 1.07 Endurance + 1.07 Level 32 / Slot: Offhand / Type: Shield
This post has been edited by Rootzor: Oct 7 2011, 10:27
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Oct 7 2011, 11:06
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MidNightPass
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QUOTE(Rootzor @ Oct 7 2011, 16:18)  Came across this earlier tonight. Was a little amazed to find that, for defensive purposes, this "average" tower shield seemed to be far better than many I've found in the Fine and even Superior range. Relative to its level, of course.
You will find this to be true at many occasions in the future. Although the quality can give you a general idea how good the equipment is, but it still depends on the stats roll on each important feature.
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Oct 7 2011, 11:14
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mkonji
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As far as I know basically Snowflake looks at all the stats generated by the equipment, sums them up, and appraises the quality of the equipment based on that. Since it uses the sum of all stats (weighted somewhat), it's entirely possible (and, in fact, common) to find a low-quality piece with one key stat which is max or near-max making it highly desirable since it's the one stat you care about.
For qualities Exquisite and above you actually get a bonus on top of the rolled stats meaning the absolute best Magnificent and Legendary pieces will be a substantial amount better than the best Superior piece, but for Superior and bellow the quality bonus is very low so the best Average piece will only be a miniscule amount worse than the best Superior piece. It's also worth noting that since there are so few Magnificents and Legendaries generated that you shouldn't expect "the absolute best Magnificent/Legendary piece" to ever actually happen.
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Oct 7 2011, 11:44
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Rootzor
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Good to know.
Seems like, as far as Tower Shields go, the only attribute that actually varies noticeably is the Block value; mitigation/absorption/stat bonuses all tend to be relatively similar between all shields, so I guess it's a good find after all. Thanks!
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Oct 7 2011, 12:13
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buktore
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Anyone else try eth estoc recently? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Now that I starting to get the feeling that the girl's defense is pretty solid (@240), so I tested an eth estoc VS girls marathon a few hour ago... It was pretty good, actually. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Still not as good as eth mace. However ... - Slower than mace, but I still actually quite impressed with the speed TBH. Estoc still do less damage per hit. Not by much, though, and this might be due to my estoc setup has about 50 lower base damage though it has a bit more crit. ... However, once you proc PA, it will pretty much not going to expired until the girl die. This mean that, unlike mace, there's no damage wasted in between the turns stun expired and until stun proc again like mace do. This actually make the fight against non-konata girls almost as fast, if not the same, as eth mace. - Speed aside... everything else were, as expected, inferior than eth mace. It use much more mana and I had to cast regen a lot. My spirit shield drains quite a lot of SP, too. Still very easy since it was just a 1-1 fight anyway. - Estoc sucks in combination with nerf... Again, as expected. This may change in the future though. Eth estoc is so underestimated nowadays and I saw it on sale in WTS. So if you have problems with girls arena and have some credits, give this a try. I wonder if DW, with meh gear, would work..? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) It probably will, but it would be annoying as fuck to play... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) PS. This post is fueled by 100% boredom! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by buktore: Oct 7 2011, 12:18
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Oct 7 2011, 16:59
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skillchip
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Dual Wield is fun, but it took me slightly longer to do the 50 rounds of girls with my eth club and decent rapier in comparison to my non eth mace, i wish i had an eth mace for it lol
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Oct 7 2011, 17:51
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buktore
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Oct 7 2011, 21:59)  Dual Wield is fun, but it took me slightly longer to do the 50 rounds of girls with my eth club and decent rapier in comparison to my non eth mace, i wish i had an eth mace for it lol
Could you elaborate on this? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I'm kinda suspect that DW might take longer overall (and more cumbersome to play) than 2H mainly because you had to hit all the shit mobs first... I didn't think that an eth club would take longer than vanilla mace though, so I'm kinda surprise and curious. I wanna try it myself for quite some time, but I lack the equipment to do it... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So any input about this is appreciated. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 7 2011, 18:18
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114,102,102,97,88,88 for a heavy armor TH warrior. Is that ok?
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Oct 7 2011, 19:11
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watisit
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[ imageshack.us] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/85974435.jpg/Main strategy: Block with the shield. Kill most enemies with counter-strikes. Equipment Weapon: Average axe of slaughter (Any suggestions to a change of the type of weapon?) Shield: Tower shield (focusing solely on block %) Other armor: Any tips on what to look for? Also, how do people get their equipment all the way to level 100+? Did they really go through item world or they just had a very high level in Luck Of The Draw? This post has been edited by watisit: Oct 7 2011, 19:13
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Oct 7 2011, 19:24
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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At long flippin' last, the Rainbow aura. /happiness. Went from 20,7 to 26,1 MP regen
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Oct 7 2011, 19:36
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HaliZorat
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QUOTE(watisit @ Oct 7 2011, 13:11)  [ imageshack.us] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/85974435.jpg/Main strategy: Block with the shield. Kill most enemies with counter-strikes. Equipment Weapon: Average axe of slaughter (Any suggestions to a change of the type of weapon?) Shield: Tower shield (focusing solely on block %) Other armor: Any tips on what to look for? Also, how do people get their equipment all the way to level 100+? Did they really go through item world or they just had a very high level in Luck Of The Draw? Equipment that you get is around your level. So Level 100+ equipment comes from players around those levels, who can sell them to others, which is why there can be level 50s with level 250+ equipment. I would say very rarely is there a high level piece of equipment that's actually been leveled up all that way through Item World.
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Oct 8 2011, 00:32
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CrazyFlame
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Oct 7 2011, 10:36)  I would say very rarely is there a high level piece of equipment that's actually been leveled up all that way through Item World.
Truly a rarity indeed. The only person I've seen actually do that was Hito and his Legendary staff. Though it makes perfect sense in that case.
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Oct 8 2011, 02:38
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coykili
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If i had the time i might try to level up one or 2 pieces, it just takes too long to seriously consider
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