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Oct 11 2016, 09:43
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Diddy_
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Oct 11 2016, 03:35)  Non SG arenas should be enough for exp grind. I dont think the exp from SG arenas could justify the time spent on them. That and people already told me they're just for farming SG trophies anyway which is more the job of your drop chance levels instead of difficulty (I think...)
Oh yeah of course, I was only doing that for the clear bonus of 50k credits and to see what it was like, I didn't think Hell would be that much of a hassle. I'm just doing the top 2-3 non-sg arenas on hell every day right now and the levels come quite fast. Thank god for 2 monitors. QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 11 2016, 03:40)  And 2 hath are worth at least 11k, 1k crystal 36k/12 and last elixir 700C. Do the math and you will see that shrining is the better choice in the long run.
Edit: Nevermind, I understand what you mean here. My tried brain didn't process at first that this just meant not every artifact was a loss of 20k, I was only thinking about the net gain of each individual artifact. This post has been edited by Diddy_: Oct 11 2016, 09:59
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Oct 11 2016, 10:06
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 7-December 10

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QUOTE(Diddy_ @ Oct 11 2016, 14:29)  420k hp per schoolgirl was a lot to deal with almost every round for me I'm stuck with a sup rapier of balance right now, two of my armor pieces (helm gauntlet) are normal plate still and the rest is pretty crappy pre.82 unassigned superiors so my ADB is quite low. This new equipment level system makes it really hard for us 200s to find stuff, especially if you don't have thousands of soul fragments to spare (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Gotta grind exp hard so I can get into the 300s as soon as possible. than you must increase your ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) increasing 1K+ ADB difference is quite alot at low range (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but finding mag power armor xxxxx at your lvl is your main problem here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Oct 11 2016, 14:35)  Wouldn't it be better to just sell artifacts off in WTS to fund the drop chance some more before trying to shrine them for a chance at a few stats and ED? saw the recent 1k artifact results in the accomplishment thread and thats around 2 ED per 10 artifacts. so 183k (assuming average ED price is 91.5k) vs 205k (assuming the average artifact price is 20.5k)
Unless of course he already has his archeology up the later half. I'm still at 3/10 so no way I can shrine them while they're still too rare for me :< Non SG arenas should be enough for exp grind. I dont think the exp from SG arenas could justify the time spent on them. That and people already told me they're just for farming SG trophies anyway which is more the job of your drop chance levels instead of difficulty (I think...)
Err , I have post about this before (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) well , from my own exp shrine artifact from daily basis to 500+ artifact that make me realize 1 things (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) At high amount of artifacts ( usually 200+ artifacts ) , ED rate % is always stuck around 18~23% for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But at low amount , you can get much higher rate ( 80% rate ) or 0% depend on your luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I saw some players who got 3~4 ED from just 5 artifacts with lucky RNG but sometime if your RNG is bad , you maybe need 10+ artifacts to get 1 ED (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Shrine is better option overall at least for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 11 2016, 10:12
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Oct 11 2016, 10:17
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Unindex
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Well, if you have more than enough spending money you can indulge in the joy of risk-taking
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Oct 11 2016, 10:19
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Diddy_
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 11 2016, 04:06)  than you must increase your ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I'm on it, b0ss Just shined my 4 artifacts, got 2 ed and 2 strength thanks guys!
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Oct 11 2016, 10:21
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Unindex @ Oct 11 2016, 15:17)  Well, if you have more than enough spending money you can indulge in the joy of risk-taking
already doing that with trophies (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) junk peer and leg so far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Oct 11 2016, 10:51
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chjj30
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Does this in Equipment_Ranges have a Problem now? 
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Oct 11 2016, 11:03
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Oct 11 2016, 10:51)  Does this in Equipment_Ranges have a Problem now?  chances are that it's rewritten everytime skillchip updates the table, so maybe it's better to report it in wiki thread
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Oct 11 2016, 11:09
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chjj30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 11 2016, 17:03)  chances are that it's rewritten everytime skillchip updates the table, so maybe it's better to report it in wiki thread
You're right, I'm fast forget that one.
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Oct 11 2016, 14:19
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jackalo
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QUOTE(Diddy_ @ Oct 11 2016, 02:19)  I'm on it, b0ss
Just shined my 4 artifacts, got 2 ed and 2 strength thanks guys!
just a heads up, i sent super lvl 233 mag power armor for the upcoming auction this week. you could probably snag it for 50k if no one else bids on it. so i have Arch 7 and Crys 3 now, is it almost worth doing hellfest/ninfest over arenas for me yet? This post has been edited by jackalo: Oct 11 2016, 14:23
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Oct 11 2016, 15:03
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 11 2016, 19:19)  just a heads up, i sent super lvl 233 mag power armor for the upcoming auction this week. you could probably snag it for 50k if no one else bids on it. so i have Arch 7 and Crys 3 now, is it almost worth doing hellfest/ninfest over arenas for me yet?
sure , why not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 11 2016, 15:35
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-Shun-
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 11 2016, 20:19)  just a heads up, i sent super lvl 233 mag power armor for the upcoming auction this week. you could probably snag it for 50k if no one else bids on it.
Now I'm interested too o.o
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Oct 11 2016, 18:15
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yukikiss
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 11 2016, 20:19)  just a heads up, i sent super lvl 233 mag power armor for the upcoming auction this week. you could probably snag it for 50k if no one else bids on it. so i have Arch 7 and Crys 3 now, is it almost worth doing hellfest/ninfest over arenas for me yet?
well. you know such low level mag power can attract quite a lot people (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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Oct 11 2016, 18:58
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guppieman
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Thanks Super and Dashes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.
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Oct 11 2016, 19:30
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SincSoul
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Ok what is up with the lv225 arena, I just unlocked it earlier ago and there's a boss in literally every round after round ~55/55, can't remember, I'm currently in round 70, will this get worse? Are there any good bonuses in this arena?
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Oct 11 2016, 19:37
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SincSoul
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Diddy_ @ Oct 11 2016, 09:29)  420k hp per schoolgirl was a lot to deal with almost every round for me I'm stuck with a sup rapier of balance right now, two of my armor pieces (helm + gauntlet) are normal plate still and the rest is pretty crappy pre.82 unassigned superiors so my ADB is quite low. This new equipment level system makes it really hard for us 200s to find stuff, especially if you don't have thousands of soul fragments to spare (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Gotta grind exp hard so I can get into the 300s as soon as possible. I have a spare Exq. Rapier of Slaughter, I'm not sure if it's good or crap but I can show it to you if you want... I'll just give it, FSM dropped another Exq. Rapier for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oct 11 2016, 19:39
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Oct 11 2016, 19:30)  Ok what is up with the lv225 arena, I just unlocked it earlier ago and there's a boss in literally every round after round ~55/55, can't remember, I'm currently in round 70, will this get worse?
there will remain only one SG until the end. on the other hand the number of standard mobs will increase. QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Oct 11 2016, 19:30)  Are there any good bonuses in this arena?
SG trophies. they have a static 10% chance to drop. plus those on final round, so it's safe to assume you may end with 7-8 of them in the end. something like +12k incoming or so. [edit]: plus a clear token drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 11 2016, 23:22
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Oct 11 2016, 22:34
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RoadShoe
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 9-August 15

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QUOTE(Chraunzen @ Oct 11 2016, 19:30)  Ok what is up with the lv225 arena, I just unlocked it earlier ago and there's a boss in literally every round after round ~55/55, can't remember, I'm currently in round 70, will this get worse? Are there any good bonuses in this arena?
Trophies. Lots of trophies. Shrine them, sell them, print them on pillows and share with your friends.
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Oct 12 2016, 00:08
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Larequirem @ Oct 12 2016, 00:04)  109 7 In Memory Of Dark Mages Mk2r dropped [Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Freyr]yay my first LEG drop yay it's rare armor yay it's rare prefix the main problem is I am 100% melee (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) so is this worth anything ? low EDB and AGI, but Radiant with good MDB, INT/WIS and low level. a few millions. i suggest you to send it to Superlatanium's address
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